clem84
Gold Member
"I split you in two." lol
I saw this in French originally.
"Je vais te briser." Literally, I will break you.
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Rocky IV: Rocky vs. Drago | The Ultimate Director’s Cut | Official Trailer
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"I split you in two." lol
I saw this in French originally.
"Je vais te briser." Literally, I will break you.
ShadowNate
Member
Yes. My life was missing this, and I didn't know.
Space Runaway
Member
For those who don't mind spoilers, someone posted the Training Montage (Both parts) from the Director's Cut:
I miss the old explosive punch sound effects and they cut that great shot of Rocky crumpling the Drago photo. Luckily the music is still intact. Changing that would have been a deal breaker.
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ManaByte
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It’s Amazing How Different ‘Rocky IV’ Becomes When You Cut Out Paulie’s Robot
The new version is the same length as the original — but a lot’s changed.
Space Runaway
Member
Yeah saw the theatrical premiere.
I liked it though I still prefer the original theatrical version overall. For me it was a very interesting companion piece to the original.
The core movie is still very much the Rocky 4 we all know and love though large amounts of it are cut differently and there's an attempt to bring in more depth to the characters (Well, some of them). Some of the changes are weird(The entire new intro, imo) while some are pretty neat. All the montages are still there with some parts of them cut differently, especially for the fight (All the fights are cut fairly differently). Movie tries to eliminate some of the cheese or ill-fitting jokes but still has the same sense of humour overall. As expected Brigitte Nielson got nuked and is mainly just eye candy though that led to more focus on Michael Pataki's character which was cool. Was hoping Drago would get more screen or character but I guess there wasn't enough to work with. Ultimately had a lot of fun and enjoyed it.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I really didn't like the new aspect ratio. A lot of the movie has a really cropped look to it now.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'll get the 4k blu ray when it comes out.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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Hearts on fiiiiiiiiiiiire, strong desiiiiiiiiiiiiire...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Anyone watch yet"?
Stuart360
Member
I saw it last night. Its def worth a watch, and some of the new scenes are quite interesting.
Sly basically stripped the 80's vibe from the film though (apart from the music), and it almost has a feel of a documentary at times. Some of the editing is a little wierd too, but not surprising after seeing how it was editd (just Sly, and another guy in a room with a camera crew following them lol). Sly changed the punch sound effects too and while not bad, the punches dont have the booming impact of the orig cut.
Def prefer the orig cut, but its worth a watch.
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Fox Mulder
Member
Nice, will pick this up on iTunes.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I watched it on demand today. It was good because Rocky 4 is good but I do not think it is as fun as the original cut. The kids are cut out entirely.
It isn’t bad just different.
Ulysses 31
Member
Nobody got no opinion on this? 
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ManaByte
Member
I like it more than the original cut, especially the recut fights. The recut Apollo fight here is so much better. In the original Apollo is just a punching bag. Here he tries to fight back more.
The extras with Stallone are great. He says if he had to do it over again he wouldn't have killed Apollo but instead put him in a wheelchair and he would've taken on the Mickey role. But then the entire trajectory of the other movies would've been different and Creed would probably not happen at all.
I think in general Stallone's 2nd cuts of movies tend to be better. John Rambo was similar. The original cut always seems to be him being more impulsive and not thinking as much (he says as much about the original Rocky IV in this, he was being impulsive because he thought the audience had no patience at the time), but then after he thinks things through he does a director's cut that's not bad but just different.
If I were to sit down to watch Rocky IV going forward, it's probably this version.
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Ulysses 31
Member
Did you notice the music being very muted in this version like James Rolfe pointed out?
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ManaByte
Member
Not at all.
Space Runaway
Member
He's kinda correct about the "Up The Mountain" part. The music itself isn't muted but the voice audio is louder and they lowered the sound on the drum beat.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
In the Rocky movies I have noticed the theatrical release has a much louder music mix than a home release. Creed is staggering at how different the music is between the theater and the home audio.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Are we getting a physical release for this?
MacReady13
Member
I really enjoyed this cut. I love Rocky 4 but it always felt like a different film to the others in the series (maybe the fact it didn't have a score by Bill Conti helped that) yet this version of the film feels MUCH more like a true Rocky film, and feels completely in line with the previous 3 films.
The music isn't as pronounced in this new directors cut. It feels FAR less 80's as a result of that although we still get those great 80's tunes in the film.
I still love the original Rocky 4 but this seems a much more serious movie now. I liked it a lot.
The music isn't as pronounced in this new directors cut. It feels FAR less 80's as a result of that although we still get those great 80's tunes in the film.
I still love the original Rocky 4 but this seems a much more serious movie now. I liked it a lot.
ManaByte
Member
It's Rocky IV reimagined by a post-Rocky Balboa Stallone. And you're right it feels a lot more like the first three than the original cut did. Stallone says in the extras how he doesn't see them as sports movies but dramas.
MacReady13
Member
I always felt like even though I did love Rocky 4, watching it as an adult I noticed it was really different in tone to the original 3. This brings it right in line with the previous 3 films far more and I feel it's better for it.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Was the last Rocky Movie any good? Balboa, I think it was called? I skipped it because Rocky 5 was so terrible and I didn't think another movie 20 years later would be any better.
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Nikana
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I like Balboa a lot. Big fan of both Creed movies as well.
Space Runaway
Member
Yeah definitely give it a watch. It's a solid drama and (at the time) wrapped up the series quite nicely after Rocky 5 soured things. It is a little on the cheap side due to the studios not even wanting to make it but one might argue that adds to it's "back to basics" approach.
MacReady13
Member
Very good film. A back to basics Rocky film that ended the Rocky saga beautifully.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
It better.
ManaByte
Member
Yes it's a much better ending to the Rocky movies than Rocky V was.
And Creed is great too.
Rran
Member
Best Rocky movie besides the first two, IMO. I actually enjoyed each of the original five films less than the previous one, but Balboa was a really great and thoughtful film.
It also has this awesome scene that I think sums up the whole series beautifully: