Roland Garros 2009 French Open
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Kitschkraft
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clemenx said:
What a fucking idiot. For a split second, I thought he had changed the atmosphere enough to knock the match off course.
He's lucky he didn't get close enough for a forehand smash to his fucking nose.
agrajag said:
I can't see him not winning at least 2 more.
Well guys, it's been a great rollercoaster two weeks, one of the more dramatic French Opens in memory, and I'm happy these Grand Slams are pulling all the enthusiasts and closet enthusiasts of GAF out of the woodwork. Good stuff. We're spoilt for great tennis this part of the year and Wimbledon is just a few weeks away.
CajoleJuice
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Federer has come closer to the Grand Slam than anyone else. In back-to-back years, he won the Australian, Wimbledon, and U.S. Open, while reaching the finals at the French, only to lose to probably the best clay-court player ever.Cheez-It said:
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Cheez-It said:
In this situations, I tend to weight legacy pretty heavily. If player A was consistently great for 10 years, while player B was only great for 2, regardless of what happened, it's not A's fault that B couldn't keep up his pace.
To use an example. In boxing for instance, I rank Tyson under guys like Ali, Holmes, Marciano, Lewis, Louis, and possibly a few others. Even though in Tysons best years, his leverage over opponents was massively more than any of the other guys. He wasn't consistent, and without as great of a legacy, I don't view him in that top tier.
Also legacy evens out the playing field a bit in regards to head to head. It's always a pain in the ass to compare current greats to past ones because todays athletes have so many advantages because of the period they live in. But legacy is legacy. 20 straight semifinals for instance...you can't deny that.
True plus with legacy you face many more varied opponents and other greats. A soccer player like Maldini who stayed at the top level for 20 years is a true great compared to another like Cannavaro even though the latter once won the FIFA World Player of the year.Liara T'Soni said:
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Great to see Federer finally win the this slam. Incredible to think that without Nadal - a clay-court freak the likes of which the world has never seen before! - Federer could have done the season grand slam twice in a row and won 4 french opens.
The first think Roger said was about the relief of not having to worry about not having won at Roland Garros. Hopefully with this weight of his shoulders he can relax, enjoy his tennis, and continue this great form for a few more years.
The first think Roger said was about the relief of not having to worry about not having won at Roland Garros. Hopefully with this weight of his shoulders he can relax, enjoy his tennis, and continue this great form for a few more years.
Sampras: Federer is the greatest player of all time.
http://www.tennis.com/tournaments/2009/frenchopen/frenchopen.aspx?id=177450
http://www.tennis.com/tournaments/2009/frenchopen/frenchopen.aspx?id=177450
How many credible players and all time greats (McEnroe, Sampras) does it take to clearly state that Federer is GOAT to remove doubt?:lol Not that his record doesn't speak for itself, but the naysaying has gotten ridiculous.
Mimic, whatever happened to Gulbis? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
Mimic, whatever happened to Gulbis? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
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agrajag said:
He's awesome, but he also is adored around the world (except Spain, I guess?). Win the crowd, Rogerius.
Liara T'Soni said:
This is, don't know if you meant her:
Here's her blog:
http://www.improveme.se/jenni
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRgKD28VMw8FWfbPwI1xgQ13Iq7AD98LVS1O0
Congratulations Federbot!
Mission accomplished
Congratulations Federbot!
Mission accomplished
Idioteque said:
It's nice of him to come out and say that, as opposed to last time where he reiterated that you couldn't compare eras. He says he's not sure yet whether he's going to Wimbledon...does that depend on Federer making the final, or does he mean it might be too painful to see his record being broken?
I am a huge Sampras fan, and I think all Sampras fans, even the most persistent ones, should admit by now that Federer has surpassed him. The only thing Federer doesn't have on him is weeks at #1 / years at #1, and he might not break that seeing as how Nadal is performing right now. But for the rest, it's all about Federer. Dominance, winning all four, almost won the calendar year grand slam, consistency, a more complete game and playing in a tougher field.
Re: soderling's wife, she's really cute.
B!TCH said:http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRgKD28VMw8FWfbPwI1xgQ13Iq7AD98LVS1O0
Congratulations Federgod!
Mission accomplished
Fixed.
So happy for Federer. I rooted so hard against him for the first couple years of his ascendancy because of Roddick, but that changed quickly. It just became hard to root against a guy who's so dominant and also gracious and classy at the same time. As somebody who's been watching tennis for the better part of two decades and almost all of my life, these past six years have been just superb and outside of Nadal's wizardry, it's almost all been because of Federer.
If there has to be a GOAT, he's got my vote.
Off-topic, but couple that with what Tiger has done for Golf over the past twelve-plus years and it's been an amazing time to be a fan of these two sports.
If there has to be a GOAT, he's got my vote.
Off-topic, but couple that with what Tiger has done for Golf over the past twelve-plus years and it's been an amazing time to be a fan of these two sports.
perfectchaos007
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Pete Sampras am cry. Didn't he bitch a couple years ago how Federer's competition wasn't as good as his? lol Samprass. Only Pete Sampras will believe he is GOAT. everyone else knows it's now federer
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agrajag said:
okay i read the article a few posts above mine. good to see sampras change his opinion.
I had hoped Soderling would have put up more of a fight but Federer played exceptionally from all accounts. It's cool to have witnessed a grand slam which started and finished during such a short point of my lifetime. I wonder if we'll see another sometime soon...
To me he wont be truly great until he beats Esther Vergeer's record of 372 straight wins. Now there's a real champion!
To me he wont be truly great until he beats Esther Vergeer's record of 372 straight wins. Now there's a real champion!
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Hootie said:
With Nadal's bad knees he might make the crossover. Joking.
I didn't get a chance to watch the match, but did Soderling just run out of gas? Or was Federer that good? Or a combo?
Grats to Federer whatever way it went down. The monkey is finally off his back, Roland Garros and Sampras' record all in one win. I have a feeling he'll fucking pwn everything now, especially with Nadal hurt. People talk about him choking a lot, but damn, the guy makes it to every semi and most finals that matter. Every single year. That alone is absolutely unreal.
Grats to Federer whatever way it went down. The monkey is finally off his back, Roland Garros and Sampras' record all in one win. I have a feeling he'll fucking pwn everything now, especially with Nadal hurt. People talk about him choking a lot, but damn, the guy makes it to every semi and most finals that matter. Every single year. That alone is absolutely unreal.
Fed cements GOAT status and interestingly enough almost looked like the Fed of old. The feet were good, and his backhand magically came back as well. Now can he play like this at Wimbledon and the US Open? If he does he will snag one of those titles, and it will also be interesting to see if Nadal is officially starting his downward decline or if he'll bounce back strong now.
Fed has made 15 out of the last 16 slam finals, fucking insane. Unbelievable no? :lol Not including the 20 straight semis in slams, that's 5 years of semis in row without losing. Don't expect Murray, Nadal, or Djokovic to ever pull numbers anywhere near what Fed has done. Nadal may get to 10 slams, but he doesn't have any chance at 14 or more. When Fed is long gone and retired people will look back at his accomplishments in awe. He raised the level of the game, and forced everyone else to raise their level to try to match his. He's a once in a lifetime type of player.
Fed has made 15 out of the last 16 slam finals, fucking insane. Unbelievable no? :lol Not including the 20 straight semis in slams, that's 5 years of semis in row without losing. Don't expect Murray, Nadal, or Djokovic to ever pull numbers anywhere near what Fed has done. Nadal may get to 10 slams, but he doesn't have any chance at 14 or more. When Fed is long gone and retired people will look back at his accomplishments in awe. He raised the level of the game, and forced everyone else to raise their level to try to match his. He's a once in a lifetime type of player.
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Do you guys think Nadal's injury is something serious or just precautionary?
That's pretty craptastic. The robot part of her head is bulkier and farther out from where her "flesh" should be.
That's pretty craptastic. The robot part of her head is bulkier and farther out from where her "flesh" should be.
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