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[Arde5643]

I have a feeling David Cameron doesn't like Mittens very much

That just means he's normal.

 

[flippymittens]

How is it unfair to level the playing field which affirmative action doesn't even accomplish?

Its unfair because some disadvantaged people do not get the benefits. Ideally eduacational costs could be lower and we could tax the rich to cover the more affordable eduacation.

Again I am not anything above the average intelligence level and I do not pretend to be otherwise (waiting for this to be bolded and one of you to go we know, or obviously) but I think it is sad the way our society is structured and what careers are rewarded.

 

[Kurtofan]

I am actually looking forward to voting for canidate Romney (lets not kid our selves he will not become President).

I do not like how hollywood and Europe backs President Obama. I would rather have a man hated by the EU than one who is beloved like President Obama supposedly is.

Idk... Maybe it is because I empathize more with Romney and his situation (less charismatic/likeable than President Obama).

Why is it though that Europeans on average typically hate republican Presidents or canidates with a firey passion?

Because they would be far-right in our countries.

 

[Jackben]

Think about this tonight, PoliGAF:

People like LostVoyager are allowed to vote and their vote carries the same weight as yours.

Spoiler

Assuming it isn't under 18

Sweet dreams.

 

[RDreamer]

If David Axelrod came out and punted a baby I would not blame President Obama for it.

How do we even know the anglo comments are even true?

And if Obama had a history of surrounding himself with people that punt babies and even catered to the crowd that punted babies you'd still be fine with it?

What I mean is that it is an effort by the Romney campaign to "other-ize" Obama. It's really embarrassing to me that he followed this route, but it seems to be precisely what he's doing. His surrogate, Sununu said that Obama was unAmerican. Romney himself is playing to this whenever he says that Obama doesn't understand America and uses words and phrases like that.

Its unfair because some disadvantaged people do not get the benefits. Ideally eduacational costs could be lower and we could tax the rich to cover the more affordable eduacation.

...

But you're Republican and voting for Romney?

My head hurts...

 

[Utako]

I remember Salt Lake City was a pretty great Olympics. So, I can't really say he's full of shit.

However, he could have used positive reinforcement when dealing with international politics before even being voted into office.

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

Think about this tonight, PoliGAF:

People like LostVoyager are allowed to vote and their vote carries the same weight as yours.

Spoiler

Assuming it isn't under 18

Sweet dreams.

I get scared thinking about how most of GAF gets to vote, myself included.

Nothing new.

 

[SiteSeer]

Welcome to Great Britain, the country where they set aside half an hour every week for people to give the Prime Minister shit and judge him on how well he gives it back.

wow, a 30 minutes hate, much more thorough than a measly two!

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

Nothing Romney said was out-of-line or disrespectful. For context, the issue of security and industrial strike affecting the Games has been extensively covered in the British media as of the last few weeks, and recently the South-Korean flag mixup. Romney was only referring to that context, in which he described were 'disconcerting', but crucially, he added that it was "impossible" for errors not to be made in organising in something as large scale as this.

Cameron's response, however, is disrespectful.

Calling our ability to "come together" isn't disrespectful(especially considering the obvious undertone), but telling the truth is? Also the problems were already solved by the time he made his comments, so were only going to make him look bad.

 

[Nesotenso]

Welcome to Great Britain, the country where they set aside half an hour every week for people to give the Prime Minister shit and judge him on how well he gives it back. If you weren't expecting this, then you weren't well-briefed on international politics. Which is fine if you're a NeoGAF poster but somewhat more problematic for a candidate for President of the United States.

I love the Question Time sessions on C-SPAN. I would love if there was something similar in the States but shudder when I start thinking about how it would play out.

 

[SteveWD40]

I love the Question Time sessions on C-SPAN. I would love if there was something similar in the States but shudder when I start thinking about how it would play out.

Tony Blair was on US TV once discussing it, he made it pretty clear he thought GW would stuggle but that Clinton would rock PMQ style questioning.

 

[Bo-Locks]

Because they would be far-right in our countries.

The French far right (National Front) regularly get 15+% of the vote and makes the republicans look like a bunch of socialists. Not the best comparison.

"European politics" are simply far too diverse to distill down and then make direct comparisons in terms of left/right to the US. What I will say is that two party systems simply cannot be very representative of the people.

 

[RobotChant]

Stop embarrassing us Anglo-Saxons.

 

[SiteSeer]

Calling our ability to "come together" isn't disrespectful(especially considering the obvious undertone), but telling the truth is? Also the problems were already solved by the time he made his comments, so were only going to make him look bad.

in all seriousness, the point of all the kerfuffle is that he's not being diplomatic and 'presidential' on his first trip outside the country as a prez candidate --he's burning bridges when he's supposed to be building them. he should be all 'they're sorting it all out, the games' going to be great' not 'wow didn't know shit was so bad here'

 

[Funky Papa]

The French far right (National Front) regularly get 15+% of the vote and makes the republicans look like a bunch of socialists. Not the best comparison.

The NF? No, not at all.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

I must have seen this gif a hundred times but it still cracks me up!

 

[rCIZZLE]

I guess I'm not liberal enough to see why that's so offensive.

 

[flippymittens]

And if Obama had a history of surrounding himself with people that punt babies and even catered to the crowd that punted babies you'd still be fine with it?

What I mean is that it is an effort by the Romney campaign to "other-ize" Obama. It's really embarrassing to me that he followed this route, but it seems to be precisely what he's doing. His surrogate, Sununu said that Obama was unAmerican. Romney himself is playing to this whenever he says that Obama doesn't understand America and uses words and phrases like that.




...

But you're Republican and voting for Romney?

My head hurts...

President Obama is not that liberal. Plus Romney is not going to win... If people can support President Obama because they like him why can I not support Romney because I empathise with him.
Plus President Obama did not do alot of what he claimed he would so why would I vote for him?
I am not a fan of Hollywood.

Its not as if President Obama is not running a negative campaign... Its generally what happens in arguements. If negative ads did not work I doubt neither would do it. Romney was saying in the debates and in interviews that President Obama was a great guy, etc. etc. they just disagreed. I am sure President Obama has no huge issue with Romney.

Thing is both wings of the parties do not like hearing positive things said about their opponents.

Think about this tonight, PoliGAF:

People like LostVoyager are allowed to vote and their vote carries the same weight as yours.

Spoiler

Assuming it isn't under 18

Sweet dreams.

Wtf here I was claiming I was smart... And you have to call me dumb? (Not, I have yet to claim to even being of the average intelligence level in this topic).

Also you all seem to be making a big deal about racism in this topic but alot of intelligence /iq is inherited so that is a form of discrimination along with lookism, heightism in our society that is acceptable. Obstacles always exist in life.

 

[Freezie KO]

The Daily Show did a segment about how the London security was a mess. So do all the posters who bashed Romney over this now hate The Daily Show?

It must suck to be so kneejerk.

 

[War Peaceman]

I guess I'm not liberal enough to see why that's so offensive.

It is not offensive, it is a brilliant gaffe. Romney is having an atrocious foreign trip that was supposed to display his foreign affairs credentials. Armando Iannucci must be having a field day.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

The Daily Show did a segment about how the London security was a mess. So do all the posters who bashed Romney over this now hate The Daily Show?

It must suck to be so kneejerk.

This would not be a story at all if Cameron hadn't been so ice cold

 

[gutter_trash]

The French far right (National Front) regularly get 15+% of the vote and makes the republicans look like a bunch of socialists. Not the best comparison.

"European politics" are simply far too diverse to distill down and then make direct comparisons in terms of left/right to the US. What I will say is that two party systems simply cannot be very representative of the people.

Funky Papa's comment about fascist past nailed the head on the coffin.
Italy, Portugal, Spain, Greece, Germany and many others had their recent moment in history with reigning far right dictators respectively

 

[War Peaceman]

The Daily Show did a segment about how the London security was a mess. So do all the posters who bashed Romney over this now hate The Daily Show?

It must suck to be so kneejerk.

You must have missed all the British people complain about the G4S scandal, jesus. If any nation would moan about how bad their own Olympics was going to be, it would be the British.

 

[Korey]

So Obama wins from all of this. I'm down with that.

 

[MThanded]

Its unfair because some disadvantaged people do not get the benefits. Ideally eduacational costs could be lower and we could tax the rich to cover the more affordable eduacation.

Again I am not anything above the average intelligence level and I do not pretend to be otherwise (waiting for this to be bolded and one of you to go we know, or obviously) but I think it is sad the way our society is structured and what careers are rewarded.

President Obama is not that liberal. Plus Romney is not going to win... If people can support President Obama because they like him why can I not support Romney because I empathise with him.
Plus President Obama did not do alot of what he claimed he would so why would I vote for him?
I am not a fan of Hollywood.

Its not as if President Obama is not running a negative campaign... Its generally what happens in arguements. If negative ads did not work I doubt neither would do it. Romney was saying in the debates and in interviews that President Obama was a great guy, etc. etc. they just disagreed. I am sure President Obama has no huge issue with Romney.

Thing is both wings of the parties do not like hearing positive things said about their opponents.


Wtf here I was claiming I was smart... And you have to call me dumb? (Not, I have yet to claim to even being of the average intelligence level in this topic).

Also you all seem to be making a big deal about racism in this topic but alot of intelligence /iq is inherited so that is a form of discrimination along with lookism, heightism in our society that is acceptable. Obstacles always exist in life.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

 

[SteveWD40]

The Daily Show did a segment about how the London security was a mess. So do all the posters who bashed Romney over this now hate The Daily Show?

It must suck to be so kneejerk.

As Jon Stewart himself would say: "you are comparing a comedy show to a man trying to be the leader of the free world?"

 

[rCIZZLE]

It is not offensive, it is a brilliant gaffe. Romney is having an atrocious foreign trip that was supposed to display his foreign affairs credentials. Armando Iannucci must be having a field day.

Well, if I read only the comments below the OP I would have thought he said some pretty vile stuff. Can't imagine they all had background knowledge of the situation to make their outrage more appropriate.

 

[pigeon]

The Daily Show did a segment about how the London security was a mess. So do all the posters who bashed Romney over this now hate The Daily Show?

It must suck to be so kneejerk.

I don't understand why this is so complicated.

Jon Stewart isn't running for President. If he offends the British, nobody cares. Not even the British! It's literally his job to give people shit.

Mitt Romney wants to be the President of the United States. It will specifically be his job, if elected, to represent the United States overseas. If he does it like this, everybody will think we're assholes. EVEN MORE THAN THEY ALREADY DO. I would prefer that people believe that the United States is the thoughtful, inspiring home of freedom and liberty that they keep showing in movies. But that will take a different approach than Mr. Romney's.

 

[Bo-Locks]

You must have missed all the British people complain about the G4S scandal, jesus. If any nation would moan about how bad their own Olympics was going to be, it would be the British.

But according to one poster in this thread it's OK for the British press to criticise the Government but when foreigners do it, they can "fuck off".

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

Well, if I read only the comments below the OP I would have thought he said some pretty vile stuff.

You would think so, wouldn't you?

 

[RDreamer]

President Obama is not that liberal. Plus Romney is not going to win... If people can support President Obama because they like him why can I not support Romney because I empathise with him.
Plus President Obama did not do alot of what he claimed he would so why would I vote for him?
I am not a fan of Hollywood.

I know, and I've said before he isn't that liberal. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this. It comes off as really weird, considering you're voting for Romney...

You really don't make any sense, honestly. You freely admit to supporting Romney mostly because you empathize with him, and your justification is that other people vote the other way just because? Shouldn't that annoy you enough that you wouldn't vote just because of something silly.

Yeah, Obama didn't do a lot of what he claimed... except that the guy you're voting for will go further in that direction. He'll go further opposite of what Obama originally claimed.

And yeah, Romney probably won't win, but I would personally never ever chance it. He's still got a really good shot, especially with people like you around, apparently...

And WTF does hollywood have to do with it? For someone that doesn't condemn people by association you seem dead set on voting against Obama because Holywood likes him. So, here's how it goes in your mind: Romney adviser says something damning? A OK. Apparently if Axelrod kicked a baby? That's A OK for Obama too. Hollywood likes Obama? FUCK NO MUST VOTE AGAINST!!!

 

[Amagon]

 

[Freezie KO]

As Jon Stewart himself would say: "you are comparing a comedy show to a man trying to be the leader of the free world?"

So the leader of the free world shouldn't comment on potential security issues at a global event?

You have to be doing some pretty big mental gymnastics to make this a left/right Democrat/Republican issue. It's not. I'm not even voting for Romney. But this is a security issue, and a candidate who managed the Olympics prior should be able to comment.

 

[War Peaceman]

Well, if I read only the comments below the OP I would have thought he said some pretty vile stuff. Can't imagine they all had background knowledge of the situation to make their outrage more appropriate.

Well, the Anglo-Saxon comment was pretty horrible.

But according to one poster in this thread it's OK for the British press to criticise the Government but when foreigners do it, they can "fuck off".

Yeah he's a bit silly, but he's right in one way: on a diplomatic mission, Romney should have 'fucked off' instead of making those comments. Whether they are correct (and there is some truth in them) or not is irrelevant - he is not there as an Olympics organisational aide. He is on a political visit. Act like a statesman!

 

[sangreal]

Mitt Romney is partly running on the whole "Barack Obama doesn't care about British people*" nonsense that is fairly common in the right-wing blogosphere and people don't get why it matters that he is bumbling his trip to England? Additionally, the entire point of the trip is to show off his (clearly lacking) foreign policy chops. So, no, it is not the same as other people making similar comments

*crappy gifts, winston churchill busts, etc etc

 

[CrazyDogg77]

So the leader of the free world shouldn't comment on potential security issues at a global event?

You have to be doing some pretty big mental gymnastics to make this a left/right Democrat/Republican issue. It's not. I'm not even voting for Romney. But this is a security issue, and a candidate who managed the Olympics prior should be able to comment.

I think people are basically saying he should have addressed this in private so as not to offend the British government.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I like Utah.

Don't like Romney, but not as a person, just on what he says his political beleifs are.

Dislike his wife even more for some inexplicable reason. She reminds me of the Black Hole Sun video.

Do people still get tar and feathered in England?

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Great comeback by Cameron.

Damn Utah-GAF, you just gonna take that insult?

I mean I hate Mitt Romney as much as any other intelligent person but as an American I don't like it when people talk shit about one of our states. Mitt needs to respond with "Well obviously a city is going to be busy when it is the only city in the country."

The US would be more embarrassed for not knowing basic geography of the UK.

 

[RDreamer]

You have to be doing some pretty big mental gymnastics to make this a left/right Democrat/Republican issue. It's not. I'm not even voting for Romney. But this is a security issue, and a candidate who managed the Olympics prior should be able to comment.

Wasn't the security issue fixed by the time he made any comment on it?

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

in all seriousness, the point of all the kerfuffle is that he's not being diplomatic and 'presidential' on his first trip outside the country as a prez candidate --he's burning bridges when he's supposed to be building them. he should be all 'they're sorting it all out, the games' going to be great' not 'wow didn't know shit was so bad here'

To be fair to him that bridge can't really be burnt by stupid comments from an American politician(our politicians will pretty much always bend over & take the abuse), but it is pretty crass to insult your host in the way he did(especially given the other gaffes dropped by him & his staff on this visit).

So the leader of the free world shouldn't comment on potential security issues at a global event?

You have to be doing some pretty big mental gymnastics to make this a left/right Democrat/Republican issue. It's not. I'm not even voting for Romney. But this is a security issue, and a candidate who managed the Olympics prior should be able to comment.

The issue had been sorted by the time Romney commented, & as Cameron pointed out it would have been far easier to host an Olympics in a city such as Salt Lake than it is to do so in London.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Boris giving his are we ready speech in Hyde Park:

http://youtu.be/BRgh2mOce7Q

Only Boris can give that speech, I know of no other UK politician that can give a speech like that. The crowd love him, London would be a worse place without him!

 

[SteveWD40]

So the leader of the free world shouldn't comment on potential security issues at a global event?.

Not when:

A. You just had one of your people make some remarks about how in touch with your forefathers you are (yes us).

B. You are supposed to be "presidential" and making an impression at home about your diplomatic prowess.

C. The issue was resolved weeks ago and by the Army no less who will ace it.

 

[JCreasy]

there are some great #romneyshambles tweets flowing right now! LOL

Ethan Hunter ‏@ethanhunter
This is what happens when you don't have your language software properly localized. #RomneyShambles

LOL

D L Mackenzie ‏@dlmacwrites
Romney: "America's answer to Mr. Bean" #RomneyShambles

 

[twobear]

I despise Cameron, but DRAG HA GERL

 

[flippymittens]

I know, and I've said before he isn't that liberal. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this. It comes off as really weird, considering you're voting for Romney...

You really don't make any sense, honestly. You freely admit to supporting Romney mostly because you empathize with him, and your justification is that other people vote the other way just because? Shouldn't that annoy you enough that you wouldn't vote just because of something silly.

Yeah, Obama didn't do a lot of what he claimed... except that the guy you're voting for will go further in that direction. He'll go further opposite of what Obama originally claimed.

And yeah, Romney probably won't win, but I would personally never ever chance it. He's still got a really good shot, especially with people like you around, apparently...

And WTF does hollywood have to do with it? For someone that doesn't condemn people by association you seem dead set on voting against Obama because Holywood likes him. So, here's how it goes in your mind: Romney adviser says something damning? A OK. Apparently if Axelrod kicked a baby? That's A OK for Obama too. Hollywood likes Obama? FUCK NO MUST VOTE AGAINST!!!

Romney let same sex marriage pass in Massachuessets, Romney raised taxes in MA. Romney stated that he believes in seperation of church and state and is not very religious.
I just can not justify myself to vote for President Obama sorry and I like the image he portrays of our country abroad.

Hollywood claims to be so liberal and to have this moral enlightened artist high ground yet they all cave to their beliefs apparently. Matt Damon is one of the few to express disappointment (and I am not really a fan just saying) but maybe more do I just do not hear about it on the news. The real union so many actors/actresses support the Democrats is the union. Other forms of entertainment like athletes are split.

I just do not appreciate the sort of social bullying to vote for President Obama or you are not "cool".
That is not the reason I am not voting for him though... The performance of the president versus what he claimed he would do as a canidate is why.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

Boris giving his are we ready speech in Hyde Park:

http://youtu.be/BRgh2mOce7Q

Only Boris can give that speech, I know of no other UK politician that can give a speech like that. The crowd love him, London would be a worse place without him!

I don't really understand how people still fall for that charlatan.

 

[Pimpwerx]

I guess I'm not liberal enough to see why that's so offensive.

Because it's baseless, and clearly, he's backpedaling at a rate that would make John Kerry blush. PEACE.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Romney let same sex marriage pass in Massachuessets, Romney raised taxes in MA. Romney stated that he believes in seperation of church and state and is not very religious.
I just can not justify myself to vote for President Obama sorry and I like the image he portrays of our country abroad.

Hollywood claims to be so liberal and to have this moral enlightened artist high ground yet they all cave to their beliefs apparently. Matt Damon is one of the few to express disappointment (and I am not really a fan just saying) but maybe more do I just do not hear about it on the news. The real union so many actors/actresses support the Democrats is the union. Other forms of entertainment like athletes are split.

I just do not appreciate the sort of social bullying to vote for President Obama or you are not "cool".
That is not the reason I am not voting for him though... The performance of the president versus what he claimed he would do as a canidate is why.

It must be nice thinking the Republican Party is imaginary.

 

[spiderman123]

Stuff

You have zero idea of how politics work.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

I don't really understand how people still fall for that charlatan.

Aww diddums, still bitter about the League Cup final in 2005?