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I can't wait to see what my little cousin thinks of it tomorrow.
Three times within a week. FOX has taken 70 of my dollars within a week.
Three times within a week. FOX has taken 70 of my dollars within a week.
LeMaximilian
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LaneDS said:
I kept telling my friends this. Zwei is one of my favorite games of all time, and the Banshee moments in Avatar just scream Panzer Dragoon. Love it...
DeathNote said:
I wasn't referring to the legend, but the movie itself. It also reminded me a little bit of Ferngully in terms of the world and everything lighting up.
I am sure its been referenced but I wasn't really hyped at all for the movie, I had no interest until I went with friends last night and didn't read this thread at all. The reactions IN the theater were amazing, especially when I'm use to 3D listening to the people freak out just during the first few seconds :lol
DeathNote said:
If you've got a 360, I bet Orta holds up pretty well and you could enjoy it easily without playing the others. And since I doubt we'll ever see a new game in the series (sigh) that'll be your best bet.
The otherworldly creature design of Avatar and that of Panzer Dragoon is a good fit too.
LeMaximilian said:
Definitely glad to see I'm not alone in thinking that. Gave me an extra level of satisfaction on what was already a very satisfying movie.
polyh3dron
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Was anyone else constantly reminded of Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal music video?
â Narayan
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Yeah, I immediately made the Panzer Dragoon connection while watching the film. My little sister did, too. Cool stuff.
Giolon
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There's a difference between a bad story, and a story you've heard before. Despite the knowledge and recognition that this movie was Pocahontas in space, I was on the edge of my seat the nearly the whole time. It wasn't because of the special effects -- it was because I cared about the characters. I wanted to know what was going to happen to Jake and Neytiri and to the Na'vi. For whatever sins committed by re-using a stock story template, the execution of it was nearly flawless. Ironically, Sam Worthington seemed more human to me in his Na'vi scenes than his human ones.
Personally, for the first time ever, I found the 3D aspect of the movie to be more than a gimmick. It's hard to describe. Instead of these artificial planes at different distances and things that fly out of the screen conspiciously that you usually get in 3D movies, I felt like my head (the camera) was actually occupying a position in 3D space most of the time. I felt like I was there. I'd liken it almost to looking at a vista out your window, versus standing outside in it. I want to see more 3D movies like this.
I'm hoping I can convince my mom and brother to go see it with me on Christmas Eve. They're both skeptical of the film from the trailers. Whether they go with me or not, I have to see this again.
Personally, for the first time ever, I found the 3D aspect of the movie to be more than a gimmick. It's hard to describe. Instead of these artificial planes at different distances and things that fly out of the screen conspiciously that you usually get in 3D movies, I felt like my head (the camera) was actually occupying a position in 3D space most of the time. I felt like I was there. I'd liken it almost to looking at a vista out your window, versus standing outside in it. I want to see more 3D movies like this.
I'm hoping I can convince my mom and brother to go see it with me on Christmas Eve. They're both skeptical of the film from the trailers. Whether they go with me or not, I have to see this again.
While I've ignored the unobtanium bit until now... what gets me is less the name but the supposed importance.
If it's really what's supposed to save humanity... then I simply don't see humanity sparing an expense or a care about an unfortunate alien race that stood in the way.
I mean I can definetly see them caring enough to not want to kill them if they can help it... but it these people are standing in the way of our survival, nukes would be brought. Much more than a piddly mercenary force with some unstable commander at the head would be brought in to deal with issue.
I just can't logically reconcile such a technologically superior civilization standing down after getting a bruised nose.
If on the otherhand, it was simply needed for luxuries or something not critical for survival... then no probs.
Anyway. I won't delve into it too much, suffice to say I'll pretend that Unobtainium may be synonymous with oil of the 20th century... important, but really we have alternatives that we're just too lazy or entrenched to embrace right now.
If it's really what's supposed to save humanity... then I simply don't see humanity sparing an expense or a care about an unfortunate alien race that stood in the way.
I mean I can definetly see them caring enough to not want to kill them if they can help it... but it these people are standing in the way of our survival, nukes would be brought. Much more than a piddly mercenary force with some unstable commander at the head would be brought in to deal with issue.
I just can't logically reconcile such a technologically superior civilization standing down after getting a bruised nose.
If on the otherhand, it was simply needed for luxuries or something not critical for survival... then no probs.
Anyway. I won't delve into it too much, suffice to say I'll pretend that Unobtainium may be synonymous with oil of the 20th century... important, but really we have alternatives that we're just too lazy or entrenched to embrace right now.
Zaptruder said:
Unobtanium is not 'vital' to the survival of humanity, human's aren't an endangered species in Avatar. It's just incredibly useful, if it was then maybe they would destroy the Na'vi, but I don't think they'd really want to nuke their supply location. What's not clear (maybe it will be once I finish reading the scriptment) is if the Na'vi are the only intelligent aliens ever discovered in the Avatar world. If they are, I can't imagine whatever governments remain on earth would okay the mass slaughter of them.
The oil thing is interesting, this latest war is among the most 'jaded' in recent history, but this plot was in place long before this war, and it's motives may echo the movie, but the movie predates the war. There are no false truths being paid to the humans while the RDA rape Pandora.
Saw it again.
When I saw the midnight showing a couple of days ago I thought the movie was kinda crap.
Seeing it again yesterday, I was much more impressed. I'd give it a 9.5/10...which I hate because the story is disappointingly unoriginal. But damnit if this isn't the most impressive film ever. I would seriously go to the theater and see this several times again just for the experience factor. The parts that impressed me are when Jake is just out exploring the world.
I wish the entire film was more of a documentary first person account of Jake being in the avatars body and his exploration of the people and planet. Basically, the movie would have been far better if it were more focused. I really enjoyed seeing Jake go for his first run and get lost.
Without the 3d tech, the movie is a solid 7/10. Words can't explain how disappointing the story is. Seriously, James? You gave me a Ferrari that runs like a Kia.
When I saw the midnight showing a couple of days ago I thought the movie was kinda crap.
Seeing it again yesterday, I was much more impressed. I'd give it a 9.5/10...which I hate because the story is disappointingly unoriginal. But damnit if this isn't the most impressive film ever. I would seriously go to the theater and see this several times again just for the experience factor. The parts that impressed me are when Jake is just out exploring the world.
I wish the entire film was more of a documentary first person account of Jake being in the avatars body and his exploration of the people and planet. Basically, the movie would have been far better if it were more focused. I really enjoyed seeing Jake go for his first run and get lost.
Without the 3d tech, the movie is a solid 7/10. Words can't explain how disappointing the story is. Seriously, James? You gave me a Ferrari that runs like a Kia.
DieNgamers
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Someone needs to make a second gif that includes him pointing at the audience at the end. :lolDMczaf said:
HocusPocus
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Saw this last night, and thought it was really good. The only flaw is the length, and the usual corporate is evil storyline gets old. I give it a 9 out of 10. Best visuals I've seen in a movie.
Rabid Wolverine
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Saw the 3pm session today @ Sydney IMAX. Sold out, the arranged seating wasnt bad, got exactly what I wanted.
Wow. After watching it its like Cinema got upgraded compared from DVD to Blu-Ray. Absolutly unbelievable visual effects coupled with a good story.
Solid 8/10.
Wow. After watching it its like Cinema got upgraded compared from DVD to Blu-Ray. Absolutly unbelievable visual effects coupled with a good story.
Solid 8/10.
LINK.AGE76
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Watched it a few hours ago and I think it's a great movie. Visually impressive, the locales and the environments were amazingly done; I think it's the best I've seen. I still didn't like the designs of the natives, but it's alright I guess. The story was alright as well, I did like the soundtrack quiet a bit. I really enjoyed the action scenes especially near the end. Great movie 8.5/10.
stuburns said:
The importance of unobtanium is never really made that clear in the movie. From about a page back there's someone posting a excerpt from what appears to be Cameron's notes on Unobtanium.
i.e. it's required for space travel, and on a planet that is overdeveloped and seemingly out of resources interstellar trade is a necessity for energy and resources...
And isn't there also a line at the end of the movie that mentions how humanity is a dying civilization (without this resource)?
Neverender
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Was Jeremy Piven unavailable to play the corporate villain dude or something?
i'm sure this has been brought up before but seriously
SCULLIBUNDO
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Krev said:
No wai!
Well you and me know it, but stuff needs to get reposted here pretty often for it to be noticed.Scullibundo said:
Anyway, I was pretty surprised by how the 3D didn't look so great at a LieMax even though they're using digital projection. Maybe it's RealD's circular polarizers that make the difference over IMAX's linear polarizers.
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Krev said:
I actually don't agree. I thought LieMAX was perfect at Fox Studios. I also found the image a lot sharper than Real D. Mind you I haven't seen AVATAR in Real D, only in IMAX and LieMAX. Going to see it at LieMAX again tomorrow.
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Damn this thread has moved fast since my last post on Friday...
Anyway, I went to see Avatar for the third time in 3 days on Friday and, once again, I enjoyed it more than the first time.
I'm beginning to think that maybe I was just way too tired or grumpy to enjoy it first time around? I really don't know what's happening?!
I read over the 'review' that I posted after my initial viewing, and all of those criticisms still stand, it's just that somehow I'm now able to completely forget them and just become engrossed in the world. I think I enjoyed it so much on my second and third viewings that I'd bump my score from 3/5 to 4/5, although there are too many criticisms for me to give it 5/5.
My girlfriend absolutely loved it as well and said it was one of the best films she's ever seen :lol
She was a little pissed with me when she found out that I'd already seen it twice before we even went to see it, but afterwards she said she can understand why I kept going back to watch it, and she demanded that we book tickets to see it in IMAX.
I have no idea how much I'll appreciate the movie in 2D on my HDTV so I plan on seeing it maybe 2 or 3 more times in the cinema before it ends. It will probably end up being my most watched film in the cinema (simply because I don't think I'll enjoy it anywhere near as much at home).
Has anyone else seem this multiple times yet? How is it holding up for you?
Anyway, I went to see Avatar for the third time in 3 days on Friday and, once again, I enjoyed it more than the first time.
I'm beginning to think that maybe I was just way too tired or grumpy to enjoy it first time around? I really don't know what's happening?!
I read over the 'review' that I posted after my initial viewing, and all of those criticisms still stand, it's just that somehow I'm now able to completely forget them and just become engrossed in the world. I think I enjoyed it so much on my second and third viewings that I'd bump my score from 3/5 to 4/5, although there are too many criticisms for me to give it 5/5.
My girlfriend absolutely loved it as well and said it was one of the best films she's ever seen :lol
She was a little pissed with me when she found out that I'd already seen it twice before we even went to see it, but afterwards she said she can understand why I kept going back to watch it, and she demanded that we book tickets to see it in IMAX.
I have no idea how much I'll appreciate the movie in 2D on my HDTV so I plan on seeing it maybe 2 or 3 more times in the cinema before it ends. It will probably end up being my most watched film in the cinema (simply because I don't think I'll enjoy it anywhere near as much at home).
Has anyone else seem this multiple times yet? How is it holding up for you?
Meier said:
Agreed. I was actually thinking about this earlier, and WETA has once again usurped the crown from ILM for the time being. ILM was the king from the beginning, and then WETA stile their thunder on LOTR (which seems hilarious NOW, because I dont think LOTR's CG is again well at all), and then ILM took it back on the Pirates sequels and Star Trek, etc. Now with District 9 and especially Avatar, WETA has taken the lead again.
Neytiri has now usurped Davy Jones, who usurped Gollum.
Ball's in your court, ILM.
DMczaf said:Just got back....all I have to say is:
Glad to see you've chosen poorly. Cameron also smacked your lord and savior too though
jett said:
This is completely true, but it doesnt matter since Cameron is finally back in the game.
Memles said:
I LOVE that Memles loved this. I figured you might not, but this movie is really winning over some surprising quarters. Somehow, Cameron has done it again.
harSon said:
Its because her avatar's face was EXACTLY her face, but Navi'd. Whereas Jake's wasnt just Worthington's face. They changed his features.
UnluckyKate
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Flying scenes and the final battle made me " wooooooooaah " out loud.
â Narayan
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I really want to see it again. I think I'll go by myself after work (I work nights) and catch a morning show to see how a LieMAX experience compares to a real IMAX experience. Hopefully it won't be packed. I was somewhat to the edge at the IMAX show, but was at the very back row. Not too bad.
LieMAX projectors are digital, correct? The IMAX I went to on opening night definitely used film. You could notice dirt on the screen skittering about. It was annoying.
LieMAX projectors are digital, correct? The IMAX I went to on opening night definitely used film. You could notice dirt on the screen skittering about. It was annoying.
Zeliard said:
I agree (I did the same thing too with the glasses). I think it will translate well to a TV. The amazing part of the movie to me are the effects and I think that will be fine
I'm looking forward to the Blu-Ray coming out as I have no intention of buying a 3D TV anytime soon.
rhino4evr said:
He obviously liked the movie, but has an e-reputation to maintain. It would be like me saying that The Dark Knight is a piece of shit or that Quantum of Solace is the greatest cinematic achievement of our time.
Zzoram said:
Despite being not completely sold on 3D, for this movie in particular, the answer cant be anything but 3D. It was designed from the ground up for it.
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I've finally seen it and thought it was a really good film. Visually this is an unparalleled triumph and I think this is meant as a technical showcase first and foremost. The story was good but I though they could have picked up the pace a little during the middle half of the film.
Also,
Also,
Cameron missed a huge opportunity to reinforce the implications of what would happen to the human race if we couldn't get at the unobtanium. At the end of the film, I felt this was more of a "natives vs. Corporation and PMC" than a Na'Vi vs. the Human Race film. If they had played with the idea that the human race was dying off and that humans needed this natural resource to survive and prosper I think that would have improved my emotional investment ten-fold. I've seen plenty of movies were "THE MAN" is the bad guy and this felt like another one of those. It never once felt like the HUMAN RACE was the villain of this film and I thought that was what Cameron really wanted you to feel.
Playing up the fact that these people (PMC and the corporation) were just in it for profit instead of survival downplayed the absolute need for this resource. Establish that the humans need that resource or die off and then you have a moral "gray" area that you can play with. That story would have been far more interesting. How far would you go to save your own race?
Playing up the fact that these people (PMC and the corporation) were just in it for profit instead of survival downplayed the absolute need for this resource. Establish that the humans need that resource or die off and then you have a moral "gray" area that you can play with. That story would have been far more interesting. How far would you go to save your own race?
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