Billbofet
Member
Ha. I was wondering the same thing.
I think it will as I've seen very little marketing and it looks like a Disney+ quality project with zero buzz whatsoever.
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Rottenwatch: The Marvels (2023)
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I think it will as I've seen very little marketing and it looks like a Disney+ quality project with zero buzz whatsoever.
Saber
Gold Member
Brain damaging reading this on wikipedia.
First is:
"Best openning box for black female director"
Followed by this:
"Worst MCU opening ever"
Autism is real.
NeoGiffer
Member
I think Wish is tracking at 50-60 mill, around Coco levels. I know my wife is dragging all the girlfolk to see it during Thanksgiving. I'm gonna watch James Bond instead.
Which would be great, except it too cost 200 million. Not sure WTF is going on with budgets, but now that the writers and actors want more pie it's only gonna get worse.
Which would be great, except it too cost 200 million. Not sure WTF is going on with budgets, but now that the writers and actors want more pie it's only gonna get worse.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
You really need to lay off Blacked bro
The fuck?! Blacked bro?! Are you taking the piss?
ThisIsMyDog
Member
CGI
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Finn in the Star wars sequels
DetectiveBananas
Member
My wife and daughter hated both those movie so women can smell a shit movie a mile away!There are enough idiots in Hollywood and the media who blame men for their own failures.
Elizabeth Banks slammed for 'male genre' comments
The actress, 45, made the comments during a recent interview with the Herald Sun before the release of her film, which did perform poorly at the box office during it's opening weekend.www.dailymail.co.uk
How misogyny impacted 'Ghostbusters' opening weekend and its future
On the sidewalk on Hollywood Boulevard as the smell of free Papa John’s pizza wafted through the air and a giant, inflatable Stay Puft Marshmallow Man hovered nearby, 14-year-old Blake Rossen was ebullient Friday night.www.latimes.com
Ownage
Member
Possible, but audiences like myself don't know those facts. If the director left like that so quickly, it could be due to script or mgmt issues as much as their own negligence. All audiences hear is the DEI agenda and force-fed politik that Disney keeps pushing. Hence the "get woke, go broke" slogan.
MayauMiao
Member
Redditors are confused with the title as its either copium or sarcasm.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For maximize a soft landing, youre supposed to tell the bad news first then hit them with good news at the end!
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
My wife and daughter hated both those movie so women can smell a shit movie a mile away!
That Charlie's Angels movie was ASSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
NeoGiffer
Member
I just find the whole Go Woke, Go Broke thing dumb since there's plenty of stuff doing extremely well that's considered woke, like Barbie earned over a billion and there was plenty here saying that's woke.
It just comes down to the age old is it shit? It can be woke and shit, that's why it failed, it can be woke and not shit and do great. Just right now Marvel is on this see saw of shit to good.
ManaByte
Banned
If the rumors of the plot are true, Disney should shelve it for a tax write off as the resulting backlash and boycott will kill them dead.
It's apparently about the diverse girl trying to defeat the white man villain, who is basically God.
The "villain" is a white guy who hears wishes (prayers) and grants them and just wants his people to be happy and only answers the prayers of those that will improve society. The main character is a Hispanic girl and she's the only one who can save the world from the white man God.
Again, Iger should throw it in the vault with Song of the South. It's going to be as controversial as releasing that would be.
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Fake
Member
If you ignore the context, pretty much ignore all the reason. Barbie would do well anyway even if was male/sexist focused, in fact would be even better, because Barbie as an IP is damn powerful in the world. Mario movie is mid, but was a sucess because Mario IP is powerful.
Spider-Man 2 game is full of woke as far as I can tell, but is Spider-Man franchise dude, would be a sucesss no matter what. CoD III is a mess, but the game is selling like cupcakes because the CoD IP is huge.
Hell, Pokemon Scarlet/Violet is one of the worst Pokemon games I had played and by far one the most selling games around.
I can't even believe people are still using Barbie to any counterpoint.
You should use better example before saying what is or what isn't.
John Bilbo
Member
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Opening weekend less than the flash 
God the MCU is dead.
God the MCU is dead.
It's still true though, you're trying to bank on franchises being powerful enough to NOT fail but look at Marvel now, if you go back five years and suggested that a Marvel movie would bomb this badly and people would've called you a hater.
But Marvel has had a string of bad choices lately and this is one of them due to it being just a shit movie that they couldn't market for shit and there was no outrage bandwagon to attach it to this time.
Fake
Member
No, its not. Ignore my point and I'll ignore yours.
Scotty W
Banned
Will Smith in The Legend of Bagger Vance is also playing God- the film is a retelling of the Bhagavad Gita. In any case, it doesn’t matter, the faux offense over the magical negro trope and the beyond absurd cope that black girl magic is somehow different is too much.
ManaByte
Banned
Marvel Studios Taking Stock of Strategy Amid ‘The Marvels’ Meltdown
Kevin Feige's storied superhero studio and parent company Disney will now release only one superhero pic next year — Shawn Levy and Ryan Reynolds' 'Deadpool 3' — instead of three.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
ChorizoPicozo
Member
no is not. The M-She-U isOpening weekend less than the flash
God the MCU is dead.
ResilientBanana
Member
Nah, GotG: Volume 3, Thor: Love and Thunder, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness, Spiderman: No Way Home all did very well and each came close to $1Billion in the box office, No Way Home raked in close to $2 Billion alone.Opening weekend less than the flash
God the MCU is dead.
Black Widow, The Marvels, Shang Chi, Antman: Quantumania, and Eternals shit the bed and are under $500 Million at box office.
Deadpool 3, Captain America 4, Fantastic 4, The Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars will do just fine.
They need to take note of those that did well and make future movies better. Loki was a god tier series and I think they are realizing we want more of that. But keep in mind, it's not doom and gloom for the MCU when you're still making profit.
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NickFire
Member
Yeah, it's definitely more than just people being sick of the whole woke shtick. I think there's two other obvious reasons. One of them is the multiverse itself. As great as it made Spiderman's last movie, it is a convoluted mess for a lot of people and I will dare say an incredibly cheap storytelling device. Just because the comics needed it to let them continue using the same characters for 50-100 years does not mean it's the best thing to keep the fans of the movies interested. And the second reason is their choice of characters to focus on just sucks since phase 3 ended. The second they acquired Fox they should have immediately pivoted to bringing in the X-Men.
Last Hearth
Member
GOTG3 did less box office than the previous installment (even without accounting for inflation) on a bigger budget. Same is true for Thor, Antman, and BP, all cost more (and in some cases, a lot more) and made less. Spiderman is a Sony property and wasn't done by Disney Marvel. The only one that did more than the previous installment was Doctor Strange. And if you included the Marvels' losses, it probably wiped out any profit they made on all the other phase 4 movies combined. And this doesn't even take into account the massive losses they are taking on the the Disney+ side, the She-Hulk show cost a reported 25 million per episode to make. There is no way it increased enough subs to justify that kind of cost.
And if you don't think they are panicking, Captain America just got delayed a year to basically reshoot the whole movie, and Kang Dynasty is reportedly being cancelled.
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Dural
Member
Absolutely! And as much as I liked Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, I feel like it's a mistake having him in Deadpool 3. I don't know the storyline for why he's there (Deadpool kills the Fox X-Men universe?), but if it is to kill the Fox X-Men universe why does that even need to be done? Can't they just make an X-Men universe that isn't connected to the fucking MCU? So sick of this BS, it ruins good storytelling having to think about how it connects to everything else.
NickFire
Member
I am definitely looking forward to Deadpool 3 with HJ returning as Wolverine, but I am hoping it is completely separate from the MCU stuff. The two leads played their roles so well, I just want to see them do it together one time the right way and then turn the page. HJ was awesome as Wolverine, but he's just too old to assume the role in the ongoing MCU.
ResilientBanana
Member
Kang Dynasty is most likely being cancelled, not because of anything other then Majors fuck ups.
Wanda/Vision, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and Loki were great shows.
Hawkeye, Moon Knight, and Secret Invasion were decent shows.
She Hulk, and Ms. Marvel sucked and performed poorly.
Sure, Disney is readjusting their plans for sure, but I'm sure they're not panicking. It's not like they're on the brink of extinction. There's a small chance that they will slowly stop pandering. It's not panning out.
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newtypepilot
Member
Because of Disney's uncontrolled spending, these movies have to make at least 1 billion at the box office just to break even, because the theaters take a 50% cut. Add in other expenses like marketing which usually another 100-200 million on top of their claimed production costs. Basically only spiderman makes any real profits but sony owns the film rights so they get a cut too. All the rest are either just above even or outright losing money.
MDSLKTR
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FunkMiller
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bitbydeath
Member
Deadpool was never listed by Marvel as an MCU movie either.
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I think Ryan’s just doing his own thing which they’ll try shoehorn in somehow.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Deadpool was never listed by Marvel as an MCU movie either.
I think Ryan’s just doing his own thing which they’ll try shoehorn in somehow.
According to reports, it's part of the MCU and will feature the TVA.
why are daredevil born again without you know all the lead-in that goes to justifying the story, you know with x men they're going to go right to the Dark Phoenix Saga without the Pheonix sagaDeadpool was never listed by Marvel as an MCU movie either.
I think Ryan’s just doing his own thing which they’ll try shoehorn in somehow.
Laieon
Member
With the way Loki ended I don't think we need it anyway; maybe at some point they had a different plan in mind.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I guarantee you they are going to pivot the whole thing with Fantastic Four, and Doom will become the big bad of a renamed Avengers 5. That'll then lead into Secret Wars with Avengers 6.
SJRB
Gold Member
Who even are the Avengers at this point?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Fair point. I can't put together a decent Avengers team from the current mess at all. Spidey HAS to be front and centre though. Bring back Hulk. Dr Strange, I guess. Er...
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I figured dp3 was just going to be some fun one off movie. It's now apparently very important and setting up big things lol. It's pretty bad when you need a Deadpool movie as a cornerstone in your cinematic universe.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Saw it in ScreenX, enjoyed it more than quantumania, the third act kinda fizzles out though; cool credits scene.
Alcibiades
Member
Saw it yesterday in IMAX Dual Laser. It was pretty bad. Dumb story, weak villain, annoying supporting characters, confusing set-up. Mobius was worse for sure though. Ant-Man 3 (which I thought was so-so) was much better. Also the first Captain Marvel movie was A LOT better.
This would have worked a lot better as a sequel to the first movie with a focused Carol vs. Kree storyline, maybe even taking place before Endgame. I think the retconning of Captain Marvel into being around since the 90's is forcing some weird moments, like dumb explanations for why she wouldn't visit the little kid after she left.
This would have worked a lot better as a sequel to the first movie with a focused Carol vs. Kree storyline, maybe even taking place before Endgame. I think the retconning of Captain Marvel into being around since the 90's is forcing some weird moments, like dumb explanations for why she wouldn't visit the little kid after she left.
Wasn't that supposed to be the worst Kang too? The one that got exiled because all the other Kangs were scared of him.
Toots
Gold Member
Better than titanic.
Blatant fake the dude mentions him and his wife and not even his wife boyfriend
NeoGiffer
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
This movie is now seriously on track to be one of the biggest box office disasters of all time. Its weekday performance has been horrendous. It barely cracked 1 million dollars on Thursday - a week out from release. It's now tracking for a sub X2 multiplier. Good chance it won't crack 100 million total domestic.
Utter rejection by the audience. Not down to the marketing, the strike or anything else, other than absolute audience apathy with this shit.
Utter rejection by the audience. Not down to the marketing, the strike or anything else, other than absolute audience apathy with this shit.
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