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[Hazmat]

THE MOVIE SUCKS!

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRITICS! THE MOVIE IS REALLY THAT FUCKING BAD!

GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL!

Yeah, I like how in the last page or so a vast media conspiracy is viewed as more likely than people not liking a movie.

That or the very concept of a review is flawed. Reviews are subjective. You read them because you want to know what that reviewer thought of the movie. They don't have to list every flaw they found, and they don't have to have to list every robot design that didn't suck.

 

[nib95]

I'm really curious why there seems to be a bunch of people who think the visual effects work is disappointing or flat out "bad."

My guess is TF trolling. I don't think anyone of sane mind can actually say the CG in this film is outright "bad". If anything, it's bloody spectacular and among the best out there.

I mean....really?

 

[XiaNaphryz]

THE MOVIE SUCKS!

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRITICS! THE MOVIE IS REALLY THAT FUCKING BAD!

GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL!

Someone's having anger issues...either that or is trying to attract a banhammer from the duckroll... :lol

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

The CG isn't bad at all, as far as modern standards go.

It's just that it's obviously and glaringly CG. The only CG that's 'good'(for lack of a better word) is the kind where you can't tell it's CG. The art of film making is convincing the audience believe that what they're seeing on-screen is actually happening as they're watching it. When a special effect looks hokey or unbelievable, it can take the viewer out of the movie experience.

Now, this is no fault on the filmmakers'. Truthfully, I think that this is just about as good a job that can be done at this point in time with the technology we have available to us.

A lot of people are split on the lavish CG that covers such films as 'The Matrix', the 'Star Wars' prequels, or even the terrific 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy. I tend to keep an up-turned nose when it comes to a lot of it.

In years to come, CG will become more seamless and a better movie will be possible.

So as far as the animation and SFX go, this is about as good as it gets. Saying the film's CG is bad is just untrue. On a merits of technology alone, these are some of the best films out there.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

I'm really curious why there seems to be a bunch of people who think the visual effects work is disappointing or flat out "bad."

there were some scenes where i thought the compositing was off, the robots looked ike they were 'floating' over the background or too sharp against the grainy film and it pulled me out of it for a bit (devastator tearing apart the pyramid with tank rolling down the side, other random battle shots in the desert, dunno how you COULDN'T notice it actually) but others were perfect. dunno. we both commented on it during and when we left the cinema. dunno if you could come close to calling it 'bad' though :lol some of it is mindblowing in its complexity.

this thread is hilarious. watching people subtly (or not so subtly) suggesting some kind of 'me too' critical conspiracy against this movie. there's no conspiracy. it just sucks ass :lol

 

[Weenerz]

Of course its obvious CG, they are giant fucking robots.

 

[pizzaguysrevenge]

Someone's having anger issues

Seeing so many people in such deep and blatant denial of the truth will do that to you.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I'm really curious why there seems to be a bunch of people who think the visual effects work is disappointing or flat out "bad."

They're trying to find something to pick at. It was outstanding CG.

Just some random Facebook status quotes from my friends I'm seeing, as it's fun watching people react right after the movie:

Tim L.: Just saw transfomers and I jizzed in my pants!

Genevieve B.: Transformers was the most ridiculous movie i've seen in a very long time. Blew my mind and was better than the first.

I said I liked it a lot but that it could have been maybe 15 minutes shorter, and someone replied "I thought it was perfect the way it was".

I think the length is going to be something people are mixed over.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Seeing so many people in such deep and blatant denial of the truth will do that to you.

I didn't realize people who enjoyed a film should change their opinion of it due to media reviews. ;P

 

[ToyMachine228]

Just got back from seeing it. I liked it. It's good entertainment. There was way too much 13-year old humor, but overall it was definitely enjoyable. I don't see how reviewers are saying it's such a terrible movie. It's not spectacular, but it's entertaining, and that's all I ever really expect from Michael Bay. And it's all I would expect from anything with the Transformers name. I'm not expecting a deep plot, I'm expecting badass robots fighting, and hot shots of Megan Fox. And that's what I got. It's definitely entertaining enough to warrant 7 fucking dollars.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I didn't realize people who enjoyed a film should change their opinion of it due to media reviews. ;P

Nonono, it's FACT that it sucked. Remember this.

Speaking of nonono, NOT A SINGLE ONE FROM SHIA. I was disappointed.

 

[adelante]

Are you suggesting that movie critics should review the movie based on a specific target audience and ignore their own taste and judgement? Using your game analogy, isn't that the Gameinformer Paper Mario 2 excuse.

I'm not asking them to be less of a critic..but almost all these reviews are filled to brim with negativity, would it hurt for them to probably mention the "mindless fun" factor somewhere in the summary? Or is the movie so bad, its not even worth bringing your kids to go watch it? Because that's what a lot of these reviews seem to advocate

 

[critch]

Really liked it. It was a bit long, but nothing that really bothered me that much. It was never slow, the fight scenes were badass, and Michael Bay has finally learned to direct action by showing it and not doing the quick cut nonsense. Didn't buy Shia and Megan's "I love you" nonsense. Why the fuck would he just decide to leave her across the country with nothing but a webcam? Sam is a dick and she should've dumped him a long time before, he obviously doesn't give a shit about her.

Ahem.

Anyway, yeah it's not the best plotted or acted, but the action scenes are amazing, the CGI is unbelievable, and Optimus Prime kicks every ass he comes across, and then comes back from the dead to kick more ass.

Too much for you guys? Don't worry, I'm sure My Sister's Keeper is coming out soon.

 

[BigJonsson]

Robot fighting = success
Story = Sure, ok.....the ROBOT part of the story was fun
STUPID LAME JOKES = ruined the movie........

Spoiler

Sam is the first Witwicky to go to college? Well that explains why his parents are so fucking dumb, but how do they have such a big house and shit? And if his ancestor was an explorer and had his own ship you'd think the family might be smarter?

That was the best looking college I have ever seen, they should have thrown in at least some actors that would look like they are in college.....

Human transformer? Way to rip off Terminator........

The Smithsonian in a desert? Uh what?

Robot heaven? Good grief.....

And those twin autobots were downright offensive......if Jar Jar got George Lucas in shit, then Michael Bay/Spielberg should feel 10x the wrath ugh

But I did like....

Spoiler

Kosher deli hahaha, that sector 7 guy is one of the few characters thats actually entertaining

Robot fighting was awesome!

Soundwave was pretty cool

I think Starscream should have killed Megatron at the end before he flew away, then he'd be able to finally take command!

3/5

 

[nib95]

I'm not asking them to be less of a critic..but almost all these reviews are filled to brim with negativity, would it hurt for them to probably mention the "mindless fun" factor somewhere in the summary? Or is the movie so bad, its not even worth bringing your kids to go watch it? Because that's what a lot of these reviews seem to advocate

It feels like some reviewers have just lost touch with their inner child and imagination somewhat. Giant bloody robots fighting it out in crazy dramatic and over the top action packed ways....I mean seriously....there's not a bit of fun and entertainment to be had in that?

 

[smokeymicpot]

It's not that bad. Some things could of been better hopefully Bay some how gets it right if he makes the third one. To me the first one is better but maybe watching it again that would change.

Another thing I Hated those twin characters. I could not stand them.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Nonono, it's FACT that it sucked. Remember this.

The only reason I was able to enjoy the flick at all was because I shut off my brain. :lol Yeah, the movie's full of groan-inducing moments, but they made me shake my head and laugh at least. Couldn't really say that about T4 or Wolverine.

I'll likely see it again, though mainly because there's a few more employee-related free screenings I can go to.

 

[Count Dookkake]

It feels like some reviewers have just lost touch with their inner child and imagination somewhat. Giant bloody robots fighting it out in crazy dramatic and over the top action packed ways....I mean seriously....there's not a bit of fun and entertainment to be had in that?

Yeah, cuz no reviewers liked TDK or Iron Man or Harry Potter, etc.

 

[BigJonsson]

I guess its too much to ask for blockbusters to spend a little bit of that big budget on making sure the story makes sense and is engaging........

That is why Star Trek is the best movie this year

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I guess its too much to ask for blockbusters to spend a little bit of that big budget on making sure the story makes sense and is engaging........

That is why Star Trek is the best movie this year

I agree.

I feel that just because the movie is geared towards kids or a general audience, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated to an interesting story. I feel that everything, no matter what demographic you're shooting for, should be engaging.

 

[BorkBork]

I'm not asking them to be less of a critic..but almost all these reviews are filled to brim with negativity, would it hurt for them to probably mention the "mindless fun" factor somewhere in the summary? Or is the movie so bad, its not even worth bringing your kids to go watch it? Because that's what a lot of these reviews seem to advocate

Maybe that's exactly what they're advocating?

 

[Ollie Pooch]

It feels like some reviewers have just lost touch with their inner child and imagination somewhat. Giant bloody robots fighting it out in crazy dramatic and over the top action packed ways....I mean seriously....there's not a bit of fun and entertainment to be had in that?

but thats it.. my huge fault with the film was that it has such potential for this childlike (maybe not the right word) wonder and amazement at these incredible robots, and he turned it into a fucking war movie filled with random car chases, slo-mo money shots of jets and bombs and soldiers and took any wonderment out of the entire thing. it was such a joyless, and worst of all BORING ride, when it could have been truly awesome. somehow he managed to suck all fun and life out of it.

IMO, of course.

 

[BigJonsson]

And I saw way too many 10 year old kids.........its a school night, come on.......

 

[nib95]

Maybe that's exactly what they're advocating?

And that would be a mistake. I'd imagine 99.9% (random predicted figure) of 12-16 year old boys and a large percentage of kids in general are going to be entertained (perhaps thoroughly) by this film.

 

[Sanjuro]

Just came back from the movie, if you like the first one you should enjoy this one. The silly Michael Bay nonsense sticks out much more than this one. You will see a fuck-ton of ships and planes moving to a destination where they will do nothing. My main gripe is there really is only two main Autobots in the film with Prime and Bumblebee....the rest don't do much of anything except for the twins I guess.

I also fully realized how racist Michael Bay is. I'm sure they would have gotten more product placement if he completed the step and had the twin robots shoot watermelon and fried chicken out of their cannons.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Sam is the first Witwicky to go to college? Well that explains why his parents are so fucking dumb, but how do they have such a big house and shit? And if his ancestor was an explorer and had his own ship you'd think the family might be smarter?

What? :lol Neither of my parents went to college. Dad owns a business and has a big house.

Spoiler

Human

transformer? Way to rip off Terminator........

Transformers ripped off Transformers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretenders_(Transformers)

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

CHUD's review is up, oh dear :lol

http://chud.com/articles/articles/19948/1/REVIEW-TRANSFORMERS---REVENGE-OF-THE-FALLEN-/Page1.html
What the hell :lol
Wat.

OH. MY. GOD! :lol :lol :lol

People still go to that site?
Hmm.

Yes. People still do and prefer it over the other bedroom critics.

 

[BigJonsson]

Whoa

Its down to 22% on RT

And year one is lower.........is year one really that bad?


Dude, fix those spoiler tags

 

[neorej]

Someone is being set up for a blow to the groin...

 

[BigJonsson]

Someone is being set up for a blow to the groin...

Robots don't have testicles.......oh wait...........FUUUUUUU

 

[RadioHeadAche]

By no means a good movie, but fun to look at and it will make for a nice looking Blu-Ray. If nothing else, Micheal Bay makes a great exploding movie.

 

[critch]

OH. MY. GOD! :lol :lol :lol



Yes. People still do and prefer it over the other bedroom critics.

CHUD is horrible. Anything that has a budget or hype is typically slammed, unless they have an idea to get some hits. (They universally preferred Fantastic 4 over Batman Begins, for example) They did a nice little smear job on Star Trek, spreading rumors that Chekov would die and that the whole thing would be reset. Of course it didn't take. They've got a huge chip on their shoulders as one of their creator's projects never took off (A giant shark movie. :lol ) and AICN continues to get their creators into movies and television.

You think NeoGAF hates everything? Check those guys out. Makes this place look like the land of sunshine and lollipops.

 

[BigJonsson]

By no means a good movie, but fun to look at and it will make for a nice looking Blu-Ray. If nothing else, Micheal Bay makes a great exploding movie.

And on Blu-Ray you can skip all the annoying parts.......just like when I skip the rave scene every time I watch Matrix Reloaded!

 

[mj1108]

And I saw way too many 10 year old kids.........its a school night, come on.......

It's summer. Kids are out from school.

 

[BigJonsson]

It's summer. Kids are out from school.

Still a few days left for the little ones, and the movie was over at 2:40AM

 

[RadioHeadAche]

And on Blu-Ray you can skip all the annoying parts.......just like when I skip the rave scene every time I watch Matrix Reloaded!

Revolutions?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Well if you guys aren't satisfied with the 2 AICN reviews, this one would please you (contains spoiler though).

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41514

 

[BigJonsson]

Revolutions?

No, Reloaded......that horrible part with Neo and Trinity doing it while Morpheus leads Zion in dance

 

[Killa Sasa]

Just got back. Not as good as the first IMO, but I still liked it a lot. The Twins can die in a fire

Spoiler

what the hell happened with them at the end though? Where did they go? And all the other Autobots too? I was pretty let down by the lack of Sideswipe action after he chopped that car in half.

I thought the action was better overall though. Prime

And although I pledge no former or proceeding allegiance to Trek, that is still the best blockbuster this year.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

No, Reloaded......that horrible part with Neo and Trinity doing it while Morpheus leads Zion in dance

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's been a while since I've seen both films.

 

[Blablurn]

i might watch it today. and after watching dragonball evolution yesterday i don't think it can't get worse.

 

[nib95]

Just got back. Not as good as the first IMO, but I still liked it a lot. The Twins can die in a fire

Spoiler

what the hell happened with them at the end though? Where did they go? And all the other Autobots too? I was pretty let down by the lack of Sideswipe action after he chopped that car in half.

I thought the action was better overall though. Prime

And although I pledge no former or proceeding allegiance to Trek, that is still the best blockbuster this year.

I agree with you on everything. Star Trek still beats the pants off of TF2 in terms of quality. But so far for me personally, the two best films of the year are Star Trek and Red Cliff. When Red Cliff finally comes out in the US, make sure you guys go see it. Superb.

 

[AFreak]

Pretty ok movie. Nothing to write home about though.

 

[Hero]

The stupidity of the media for movies rivals that of the games industry, as evident in this thread.

How the fuck can anyone say the CG is bad? I would love to have your eyeballs where you can nitpick this shit with a straight face.

I couldn't care less about story, if it's great, awesome, if it's not, I don't care. I want to see robots fighting. Are you going to complain about the lack of music in a silent movie? No you fucktards.

This movie is aimed at a wide demographics so it can be successful. It covers a diverse spectrum of old fans, new fans and the new generation of kids who only know Transformers through the movies. If you're expecting something deep then maybe you need a reality check.

With that said, the action was god damn awesome, Optimus Prime was much more badass, Ravage was sly and sleek like in the old cartoons and Megan Fox was hot.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I couldn't care less about story, if it's great, awesome, if it's not, I don't care. I want to see robots fighting. Are you going to complain about the lack of music in a silent movie? No you fucktards.

Of course not, because most silent films had music. Fucktard.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

The stupidity of the media for movies rivals that of the games industry, as evident in this thread.

How the fuck can anyone say the CG is bad? I would love to have your eyeballs where you can nitpick this shit with a straight face.

I couldn't care less about story, if it's great, awesome, if it's not, I don't care. I want to see robots fighting. Are you going to complain about the lack of music in a silent movie? No you fucktards.

This movie is aimed at a wide demographics so it can be successful. It covers a diverse spectrum of old fans, new fans and the new generation of kids who only know Transformers through the movies. If you're expecting something deep then maybe you need a reality check.

With that said, the action was god damn awesome, Optimus Prime was much more badass, Ravage was sly and sleek like in the old cartoons and Megan Fox was hot.

The point of any movie is to tell a story. Silent, or otherwise.

Transformers HAS a story, but not much of one. And what's there isn't very coherent or interesting. So, ergo, it isn't a good movie.

That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it for 'what it is' - an extravaganza of special effects and loud noises.

For example, I enjoy animated films quite a bit, even the ones that have shoddy stories. Just as long as the animation looks good and is interesting to look at. I'm not fooled into believing that they're 'good' by any stretch. I look at the films for their craft and I admire the work put into them and other reasons.

Nobody can fault a person for enjoying 'Transformers' or it's sequel. If all it takes for you to enjoy a movie is Megan Fox, expensive special effects, and giant robots, then godspeed to you.

But don't get upset if somebody looks at these films and says the stories are awful. Because for a lot of people, that is the entire reason to view a movie. That doesn't make them dumb.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

It's like saying we shouldn't have an opinion cause we aren't in that field of work?

I never suggested such a thing.

People criticise the CGI and provide no point of reference, nothing. Having an opinion, and an informed opinion are entirely different.

When someone states that the CGI "looks like shit", I'd like to know what standard they hold because the imagery in Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen in general is of a very high technical standard.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Saw it today. Its TF1 with more explosions, more T+A and slightly sloppier animation. Texture work etc is fine, but how they moved sometimes seemed retarded.

 

[Hero]

Of course not, because most silent films had music. Fucktard.

It was a joke, maybe I'll make it more clear next time. How's your sister doing these days?

The point of any movie is to tell a story. Silent, or otherwise.

Transformers HAS a story, but not much of one. And what's there isn't very coherent or interesting. So, ergo, it isn't a good movie.

That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it for 'what it is' - an extravaganza of special effects and loud noises.

For example, I enjoy animated films quite a bit, even the ones that have shoddy stories. Just as long as the animation looks good and is interesting to look at. I'm not fooled into believing that they're 'good' by any stretch. I look at the films for their craft and I admire the work put into them and other reasons.

Nobody can fault a person for enjoying 'Transformers' or it's sequel. If all it takes for you to enjoy a movie is Megan Fox, expensive special effects, and giant robots, then godspeed to you.

But don't get upset if somebody looks at these films and says the stories are awful. Because for a lot of people, that is the entire reason to view a movie. That doesn't make them dumb.

I never said the plotline was great nor defended it. This is a franchise that spawned from a toyline that was aimed at selling more toys. The fact that anything in the past 25 years had anything of actual substance or plot, I suppose Transformers The Animated Movie would be the crowning glory of the G1 era, is more than astounding. The franchise was, is and always will be aimed primarily at children to sell the toys and other merchandise. I'm not saying ROTF is not without criticism but a majority of the media reviews and impressions in this thread are akin to the typical GAFer buying some Petz game and complaining that it's too easy or too childish.

Good and bad are words that have very little weight to them. Transformers and ROTF are supposed to be summer blockbusters with lots of action and just enough of other stuff like romance and comedy to appeal to the masses just enough to get them to come to theaters. So in that vein where the appeal and demographic of the movie is to be mindless entertainment of explosions and a display of pioneer technology and eye candy, if ROTF does it well, how does that make it bad? If you're comparing it to something that is supposed to be taking itself "seriously" like Citizen Kane, then sure, you can call it bad. But if a person isn't going to be smart enough to determine what the demographic of a movie is and then complain about it then I can criticize them all I damn well please.

 

[PuppetSlave]

Saw it last night. Nothing great but I did think it was better then the first one. That one I just did not like. A bit too long though.