Count Dookkake
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Hero said:
A joke based on a flawed premise. Unforgivable.
Sis is doing fine.
Rottenwatch: TRANSFORMERS Revenge of the Fallen
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A joke based on a flawed premise. Unforgivable.
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AFreak said:
No, it means you should use some common sense and skip the movie altogether since you know a Michael Bay film isnt going to offer what you're looking for.
Opus Angelorum said:
Pirates of the Caribbean 2, despite being 3 years old, is still my standard. Davy Jones. Iron Man is also up there.
SonicMegaDrive
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Hero said:
It doesn't have to be Citizen Kane, but it would be nice if film makers could at least put the maturity level of their films on the same level of say...Star Wars. Again, not at all a mature movie, but it's enjoyable for all ages without the need to pander to idiots with sex jokes, humping dogs, or simplistic and cliched stories.
To a certain extent I do agree with you. There is really no weight to the terms "good" or "bad". It comes down to what you want out of a movie.
If you want to watch a film for the story, these films are shit. If not, there's enjoyment to be found here if you're a part of the demographic that this film has been tailored for. It's really that simple.
The argument goes back and forth. "I want a film with a story!" "What did you expect, it's Transformers, it's just for kids!" "Yeah, but I like Transformers, I'm no kid and wouldn't mind a better quality film. Kids would like it even more, too." "What would be the point? It's just giant robots. You're not supposed to get a story, you watch it for the action!"
It's all about wanting your cake and eating it, too. I don't see the problem with that.
pizzaguysrevenge
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Tired from fucking my father.Hero said:
Wait a sec...
ThatCrazyGuy
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Saw it a little bit ago. I really liked it. Sector 7 is awesome. I laughed a lot, though some of the jokes were low brow (I was rolling my eyes a lot). The CG was really, really good.
The "story" stalled toward the end. To much Jetfire talky, talky. My only real complaint was guys getting killed off too quick. I wanted to see more of them. I'm a greedy bastard. The violence in the fights was awesome too.
All in all, a good summer flick. I was entertained. It felt like a G1 story line, like when Megs went down to the Inca (or Mayan, I forgot) temples and tried to harvest that sun beam (or whatever it was) and jetfire did the side switch-a-roo.
Could had been better obviously. Again, the robots (besides Prime and Megs) need to talk more to flesh out their personalities. I loved it when Starscream talked and showed how he was kinda. I guess this will never happen with Bay.
Forgot to add, Prime was BADASS in this movie, loved all his stuff!
The "story" stalled toward the end. To much Jetfire talky, talky. My only real complaint was guys getting killed off too quick. I wanted to see more of them. I'm a greedy bastard. The violence in the fights was awesome too.
All in all, a good summer flick. I was entertained. It felt like a G1 story line, like when Megs went down to the Inca (or Mayan, I forgot) temples and tried to harvest that sun beam (or whatever it was) and jetfire did the side switch-a-roo.
Could had been better obviously. Again, the robots (besides Prime and Megs) need to talk more to flesh out their personalities. I loved it when Starscream talked and showed how he was kinda. I guess this will never happen with Bay.
Forgot to add, Prime was BADASS in this movie, loved all his stuff!
RobbieNick
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RadioHeadAche said:
Michal Bay makes shit. It's pretty looking shit. But it's still shit nonetheless.
Oh god. My niece wants me to take her to see this. I liked the robot fights in the first film, but thought the humor was way too juvenile. So, how fucked am I?
SonicMegaDrive
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RobbieNick said:
Bring earplugs.
BradVanDam
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Just got back from this movie, thought it was just as good as the original, lots of action, a ton of interesting backstory and great CG and explosions and it was hillarious too
Go See it now!
Go See it now!
ryutaro's mama
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Just got back.
Boy, Bay humor was all over this one. Lot's of cringe worthy stuff.
If I was a critic, I could barely pass it or barely fail it, just like the first one.
Those
were horrible.
But when Prime
, the whole audience became giddy 10 yr olds.
Those who loved the first, will no doubt love this one as well.
As for me, it was Eh.
Boy, Bay humor was all over this one. Lot's of cringe worthy stuff.
If I was a critic, I could barely pass it or barely fail it, just like the first one.
Those
fucking gold tooth twins
But when Prime
merged with Jetfire's parts and shouted,"Let's Roll!"
Those who loved the first, will no doubt love this one as well.
As for me, it was Eh.
Stabby McSter
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the humor is beyond juvenile in this one. it's ridiculous. :\RobbieNick said:
sevenchaos
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Guys I loved it. I really did. It is flawed up the ass and about thirty minutes too long but I fucking loved it. Smile on my face almost the whole time.
Brother was disappointed, like I'm sure a lot of people will be, because they will go in expecting something they're not going to get. This movie (along with the first) is like a super long Saturday morning cartoon with stupid amounts of unnecessary sex jokes.
I cringed at the
and the
. The special effects were awesome. Better than the original.
And fuck, I love Shia.
Brother was disappointed, like I'm sure a lot of people will be, because they will go in expecting something they're not going to get. This movie (along with the first) is like a super long Saturday morning cartoon with stupid amounts of unnecessary sex jokes.
I cringed at the
humping of the leg
robot balls
And fuck, I love Shia.
How old is your niece? I'll take her.RobbieNick said:
Seriously(well I was kinda serious), If she is young, I'd say take her to a different movie(like 10 then don't see it with her). There are some awkward moments and I really don't see how this passed for PG-13 sometimes. Also super perverted jokes abound and we get a little crotch shot of a hottie.
Opus Angelorum
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Splatt said:
Nope, overjoyed.
I want to answer this a little because I know you're understandably proud of the effects, and you should be. 97% of the film CGI and effects were excellent, some bots seem to be better modelled and animated than others (especially Bumblebee I think. He gets a lot of the closeups so perhaps he was focused on a lot more). But there were definitely 2 or 3 times when it was not as good. A coupel of Arcee (or a bot that makes up part of her) moments springs immediately to mind, a bit with megatron in it, the decepticon hottie...XiaNaphryz said:
Did you ever go and see the King Kong remake at the cinema and notice the fairly obvious green screen bit? There were a couple of moments that reminded me of that - not in execution ofcourse, but as in .. well that dont look right ugh. It doesn't ruin the film, for me anyway, but it sorts of pulls you out of 'the experience' at that moment. I dont know if Im explaining that well.
But as I say, the majority of it was excellent and something to be proud of. I personally wouldn't mark the film down at all due to CGI, in fact I think the effects are the only part of the film that deserves any real credit.
Like the second Matrix film, wonders are being produced on the screen in terms of special effects.. but I dont care because the film is awful. Its boring and dull. How can a film about 30ft fighting robots be dull? There is a 150ft vacuum cleaner, but the way he's used makes him just about the dullest thing ever.. he may aswell have been a 150ft shovel.. with a ball sack.
SO we have a 150ft tall evil monstrosity, built like a mechnical gorilla from hell.. called DEVESTATOR! I read somewhere it took like 75 hours to render him for a shot. It's an incredible feat of skill and endurance, and a real testament to ILM. The scene were we slowly watch him slowly pulling himself up a pyramid is probably technically amazing, the modelling of the pyramid, the scenary, the bot himself, animating him - it probably took months... but quite frankly I dont care about those things because it's boring. I want him to devestate robots, not the stonework of a pyramid - and he wasn't even very good at that!
The movie is mediocre at best. Somehow, they managed to take the worst parts from the first movie and drag it out even more in this one. The entire middle portion of the movie (except for the awesome forest scene) is forgettable and could have been removed. Almost all the "jokes" were terrible and I have no fucking idea why the other idiots in the cinema were laughing their asses off. I mean, is a guy falling on a taser with his pants down on top of another man really that funny? I would expect such stuff from American Pie not fucking Transformers.
It's not nearly as bad as Spiderman 3 was but I was expecting a lot more from this one.
I'm really not sure about picking up the Bluray now. On the one hand, the opening scene, the forest fight and the ending sequence were all great. On the other hand, the rest of the movie is shit.
It's not nearly as bad as Spiderman 3 was but I was expecting a lot more from this one.
I'm really not sure about picking up the Bluray now. On the one hand, the opening scene, the forest fight and the ending sequence were all great. On the other hand, the rest of the movie is shit.
Kung Fu Jedi
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I saw this movie last night on an advanced screening before the actual opening. From the trailers, I thought that it didn't look all that great, and I was right. Thankfully I didn't pay for it.
The movie is a complete mess. The story is all over the place and it's so over the top juvenile that it had me cringing most of the time. It also happens to be far too long for its own good, and clearly Bay had carte blanche when it came to blowing stuff up, because I think he had more explosions in this film than any of his others, and that's saying something. Seriously, it was like "Hey! We have a slight lull in the script here! Let's blow some shit up!"
Just an awful, awful film. And this is coming from someone who actually enjoyed the first one.
The movie is a complete mess. The story is all over the place and it's so over the top juvenile that it had me cringing most of the time. It also happens to be far too long for its own good, and clearly Bay had carte blanche when it came to blowing stuff up, because I think he had more explosions in this film than any of his others, and that's saying something. Seriously, it was like "Hey! We have a slight lull in the script here! Let's blow some shit up!"
Just an awful, awful film. And this is coming from someone who actually enjoyed the first one.
i saw it at midnight and loved it. i'm going back to see it again later today. some of the negative reviews are hilarious but even more so are the people that get bent out of shape behind them. other peoples opinions have never had a bearing on my enjoying something, whether they were paid for said opinion or not. watching Optimus Prime spaz out on fools can't be tainted by someone who didn't enjoy the movie. that would just be ridiculous.
sevenchaos said:
I didn't mind those scenes in general but I wish they had played the Jetfire thing more seriously instead of making him goofy and I wish that scene was shorter. Cut off a few minutes in the Egypt section (too many fighter jet/cockpit/air control scenes) and the movie would have been perfect for me.
I actually liked the parents in this movie, whereas I hated them in the first.
Oh, and yeah, Shia rules. Fuck any haters. The theater was roaring when he was screaming like a girl after the Pretender let him go. :lol
Saw it tonight at my first IMAX since I was like 9... thought it was good - the first I think was better because it was that, the first. But the it didn't feel over drawn to me, they could tighten it a bit I think were nothing was happening for a while I think you could remove that whole subplot about
Great action pieces, much better at actually telling what the fuck was going on unlike the last one - humor wasn't too childish for me, I didn't laugh at the balls but hey they were there.
Will see again, Yes I liked the first one.
how the government tries to stop NEST team.
Great action pieces, much better at actually telling what the fuck was going on unlike the last one - humor wasn't too childish for me, I didn't laugh at the balls but hey they were there.
Will see again, Yes I liked the first one.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Should I go in expecting Quantom of Solace hype sequel or what?
sorry, solo
Lord Error
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Apparently 75 hours for a single frame of animation. Yeah, pretty damn insane. Also, I bet it's not ILM's fault that the climbing scene with Devastator was supposed to play out that way.kojacker said:
Expendable.
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I'm getting hate messages and unfollows on twitter because of my negative review :lol
Jason's Ultimatum
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Solo said:
Ask them how does it feel.
DanielPlainview said:
that seems a bit harsh (and stupid). i thought the review was pretty good for someone who wasn't feeling the movie at all. i mean.....you kind of already know if this movie is up your alley or not long before you get to the theater. it's probably the most unneeded review of the summer. people should just like what they like and get on with their life. some people loathe it while i can't wait to see it again. different strokes....
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LOLpizzaguysrevenge said:Tired from fucking my father.
Wait a sec...
I love that fucking movie
A little clip of the twins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poQEBOnZNk
"wedontreallydomuchreading"
I still stand by my assessment of cutting out an hour, stringing the IMAX scenes together and then it would have been much more entertaining. Most of the middle of the movie was such a drag.
Also, in terms of being kid-friendly (as a father of 3 under the age of 5), there was quite a bit more inappropriate language than I would have expected for a summer blockbuster-type PG-13 movie.
Not that uncommon for movies with IMAX scenes. I don't mind it actually. Goes from widescreen to IMAX and back ratio quite a few times to fit the shots in certain scenes.
"wedontreallydomuchreading"
I still stand by my assessment of cutting out an hour, stringing the IMAX scenes together and then it would have been much more entertaining. Most of the middle of the movie was such a drag.
Also, in terms of being kid-friendly (as a father of 3 under the age of 5), there was quite a bit more inappropriate language than I would have expected for a summer blockbuster-type PG-13 movie.
DMczaf said:
Not that uncommon for movies with IMAX scenes. I don't mind it actually. Goes from widescreen to IMAX and back ratio quite a few times to fit the shots in certain scenes.
BamYouHaveAids
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How is:Opus Angelorum said:
not suggesting that someone has to be CGI designer to critcize it?Opus Angelorum said:
If a movie viewer views movies with CGI, their opinion is informed; you don't need to be a programer to contrast products in the same medium.
Jim said:
My "Wat" is mostly directed at the fact that Bay bragged about using actual IMAX cameras, but he only used them for a couple of minutes in the entire movie? What the hell is the point then, besides getting IMAX to give him a 4 week exclusive run just for using them.
Especially with Bay Editing, it's not going to make a difference compared to regular movies that get upconverted to IMAX. What a waste.
Saw it last night in IMAX. As some one who thought that the first Transformers movie was middle of the road, I would have thought that if this movie just succeeded in more Autobot vs Decepticon action, it would have been a massive improvement over the original. But Bay really inserted some cringe moments, and I'm not even the type to be usually bothered by stupid shit on screen like that.
- I did appreciate how the fights were vastly improved and where a lot more coherent than in the first movie to the point where I could actually tell what was going on.
- One fault I found with the first movie was that Optimus was, for the most part, a total bitch. This time around, they vastly improved Optimus on the kickass scale. Especially the forest fight scene
- ... But, there was so much more US Armed Forces circle-jerking in the movie than I initially expected.
- I liked the fact that the decepticons actually spoke this time around.
- Devastator was cool.
- Fuck the Twins. They could have had fucking Sideswipe and Arcee be their replacements and nothing would have been sacrificed. Hell, these two manage to do cool stuff in the movie, but are criminally underutilized.
- The human side of the movie was hit and miss, mostly miss. One review brought up a good point; It really, really says something about the cast when Turturro is the most endearing character, and I hated him in the first movie. Not to say that LeBouf and Fox did not have their moments.
- The middle of the movie gets really boring.
And that's pretty much all I can manage to write. I'm hovering around a 6/10 or 7/10 for the movie, as for everything that the movie did right, there was an equally dumb decision to accompany it.
- I did appreciate how the fights were vastly improved and where a lot more coherent than in the first movie to the point where I could actually tell what was going on.
- One fault I found with the first movie was that Optimus was, for the most part, a total bitch. This time around, they vastly improved Optimus on the kickass scale. Especially the forest fight scene
taking on Megatron, Starscream, and fake Blackout.
- ... But, there was so much more US Armed Forces circle-jerking in the movie than I initially expected.
It pretty much took the focus right off of the autobots. Hell, in the final battle, it was mostly just the military firing at Decepticons off screen while Iron Hide and Sideswipe occasionally come into view
- I liked the fact that the decepticons actually spoke this time around.
And this time, Megatron actually has some what of a personality. I found it funny when, after being mauled by Jetfire Optimus, screams "STARSCREAAAAM!". Very G1-ish, the dynamic between those two was.
- Devastator was cool.
Kind off. Devastator testicles was one of those cringe moments. And I really, really, really wish it had been able to kill the twins. Speaking of which...
- Fuck the Twins. They could have had fucking Sideswipe and Arcee be their replacements and nothing would have been sacrificed. Hell, these two manage to do cool stuff in the movie, but are criminally underutilized.
- The human side of the movie was hit and miss, mostly miss. One review brought up a good point; It really, really says something about the cast when Turturro is the most endearing character, and I hated him in the first movie. Not to say that LeBouf and Fox did not have their moments.
But I believe they should have cut out a majority of the college portion and clean up the exploration scenes. Hell, none of the movie would have been sacrificed and they would have spared us from that awful, awful, awful college roommate character. And the parents antics were actually funny, but usually dragged on too long
- The middle of the movie gets really boring.
And that's pretty much all I can manage to write. I'm hovering around a 6/10 or 7/10 for the movie, as for everything that the movie did right, there was an equally dumb decision to accompany it.
DevelopmentArrested
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17,000 posts in and this one may be your shittiest yet!omg rite said:
Baraka in the White House
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:lol Stop disagreeing with the majority opinion. Stop it I said!
Chiggs
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I think the best way of criticizing Transformers is by not saying anything about it. Don't even discuss it or acknowledge it. Seriously, it's a movie about giant robots beating the crap out of each other. If you think that's dumb, then you should hear someone trying to convince other people why it's dumb.
For all the Bay haters and film snobs, I really do understand where you're coming from; just don't take the bait.
Edit: Also, 2012 has some really stunning visual f/x.
For all the Bay haters and film snobs, I really do understand where you're coming from; just don't take the bait.
Dragged to it last night with friends; the only thing more loud and stupid than the movie was the audience.
Edit: Also, 2012 has some really stunning visual f/x.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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I'll keep it short.
TF1 > TF2. B-But it's more of the same, that's makes it the even more awesome!? Amirite?... No, more isn't always better. This is the spiderman 3 experience all over again.
I really enjoyed the first hour and 15-30 mins. From the middle to end, the movie's pacing just drags it feet.
Um, since my opinion is more on the negative side. I'll say this, if you have your heart set on seeing this film please do, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy (for the most part)
If you're not interested in seeing this movie, don't let anyone's post in this thread convince you otherwise, wait for the DVD,Blu-Ray, etc.
I love the first one, I was excited about this one. My expectations for this film were met initially but then ugh... People can classify these summer flicks in any way they want but holy shit, a dumb summer action flick should not run for more than 2hrs... The plot, scenes, etc just felt artificially lengthened just for the sake of being a longer movie for no reason!
I'm done. I have other gripes with this movie but the length is what marred my enjoyment the most. And.. I didn't keep it short.
TF1 > TF2. B-But it's more of the same, that's makes it the even more awesome!? Amirite?... No, more isn't always better. This is the spiderman 3 experience all over again.
I really enjoyed the first hour and 15-30 mins. From the middle to end, the movie's pacing just drags it feet.
Um, since my opinion is more on the negative side. I'll say this, if you have your heart set on seeing this film please do, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy (for the most part)
If you're not interested in seeing this movie, don't let anyone's post in this thread convince you otherwise, wait for the DVD,Blu-Ray, etc.
I love the first one, I was excited about this one. My expectations for this film were met initially but then ugh... People can classify these summer flicks in any way they want but holy shit, a dumb summer action flick should not run for more than 2hrs... The plot, scenes, etc just felt artificially lengthened just for the sake of being a longer movie for no reason!
I'm done. I have other gripes with this movie but the length is what marred my enjoyment the most. And.. I didn't keep it short.
Herpes Reasons
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what a shithole of a movie. showing off technical and visual prowess is not basis for a good movie.
this is equivalent to factor 5's lair getting a 4.9.:lol
this is equivalent to factor 5's lair getting a 4.9.:lol
GoutPatrol
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adelante said:
Just because its mindless doesn't mean its fun.
Did Shia have that ridiculous tan in the first one too? I can't remember.
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