RSC2 STILL the best looking racer?

Xbox has the best looking:


fighting game
racing game
platformer
action game
first person shooter
sport game
flight game
rpg
etc...

graphically

xbox>>the rest.
 
Wha? GT4 is still jaggy? How about in 1080i output? If so, im very dissapointed, i was hoping for a sexy PS2 game and even went to the trouble of modding my PS2 to import GT4 from the US so i can use 1080i. If its still jaggy, i might just end up sticking with the PAL version.
 
Elements of RSC2 make it look almost real, but overall i really think GT4 is the king. RSC2 has some stupid filtering issues which do ruin alome stages.
 
I dunno, RSC2 feels too "computer generated" (if that makes sense) rather than "designed". It just lacks a certain something...

I'm almost inclined to say Burnout 3, to be honest. It kinda has that intense, "Sega-ish" arcade look to it. There are just a few elements that bothered me (and it fell short of matching the sheer style of, say, a Ridge Racer game or something), but the game was beautiful overall. If RRV were to be re-released with 480p support (and the clarity of Namco's more recent PS2 titles) along with higher resolution textures and even more trackside detail, I would easily crown that game champion.

Wha? GT4 is still jaggy? How about in 1080i output? If so, im very dissapointed, i was hoping for a sexy PS2 game and even went to the trouble of modding my PS2 to import GT4 from the US so i can use 1080i. If its still jaggy, i might just end up sticking with the PAL version.
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It's not really jaggy so much as it suffers from shimmering due to lack of mipmapping. I'd really like to see a nice middle ground. I dislike the over-mipmapped look that so many XBOX games seem to offer...but complete lack of mipmapping can look pretty poor. The actual edges of geometry are EXTREMELY crisp and clean, however, but repeating patterns (such as guard rails) really do shimmer in the distance.
 
Yeah...pretty much the best looking racer this gen.

Forza ain't gonna beat it, that's fo sho.

Y'know what's an under-rated racer though (as far as graphics go)? Toca 2. That game has got a lot of great things going for it from a technical perspective.

I also think PGR2 is under-rated as well. The only issue I have with that game from a graphical perspective is how they did the headlights for the night tracks. If it were like RSC2, it would have been a near perfect game. Although 30fps was a downer, you can't expect a game to look that visually gorgeous AND run at 60 fps at the same time. And before anyone says RSC did it, do remember that RSC2 doesn't do any self shadowing, plus the geometry in the PGR2 bgs is pretty crazy!
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Xbox has the best looking:


fighting game
racing game
platformer
action game
first person shooter
sport game
flight game
rpg
etc...

graphically

xbox>>the rest.
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Well, that makes sense since the X-Box is the most powerful console system on the market right now.
 
RSC2 is technically better as i see more effects and stuff but i can't help myself but finding GT4's graphic more realistic. The cars are incredible (and not plastic looking) and the overall lighting in the game is so incredible that it make you forget the less complex backgrounds than RSC2.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Xbox has the best looking:


fighting game
racing game
platformer
action game
first person shooter
sport game
flight game
rpg
etc...

graphically

xbox>>the rest.
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Have converted completely to an Xbot? I remember the good old PS2 days :lol
 
As far as lighting and backgrounds go, the Canadian levels of RSC2 pretty much blow everything else out of the water. I don't think the cars very plastic-y, either.
 
GT4 has no lighting. I don't know why people mention it so often and don't realize that is it doesn't do much more than lightmaps and vertex lighting.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
GT4 has no lighting. I don't know why people mention it so often and don't realize that is it doesn't do much more than lightmaps and vertex lighting.
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whatever you call it techno-dude. If there wasn't lighting, all the textures would be black and we couldn't see shit while playing lol
 
MrAngryFace said:
GT4 looks nice n all, but gah the jaggies. RSC2 is just so damned smooth.
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No. Not in my opinion. GT4 looks better than any racer on the Xbox. And Doom Bringer, Tekken 5 looks better than any fighter on that system, too.

I'll never understand why people care so much about aliasing.
 
Yea, I'm absolutely loving GT4 but Rallisport 2 is definitely more impressive. I don't see anything about it that looks more "real". It's definitely no slouch, though.
 
That's true Wyzdom, or it can all be the same brightness. But really it's quite simple and basic, on par with many PSX titles. It's not the lighting the makes the game look as great as it does though, which is why I pointed that out.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
GT4 has no lighting. I don't know why people mention it so often and don't realize that is it doesn't do much more than lightmaps and vertex lighting.
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I don't care if the lighting is faked, all I know is that its the most realistic looking racer out there. And that's all I care about.
 
Hmm...if I have time today I'll cap movies of each game to show the pros and cons of each.

The problem is my All in Wonder has a bit of delay in it...so it's really hard to play games on it (you press a button and you see the result almost a second later).
 
Fight for Freeform: "Fake lighting" when done right looks better than "uhh...other brand of Fake lighting" is what you are trying to say?
 
I don't care if the lighting is faked, all I know is that its the most realistic looking racer out there. And that's all I care about.
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Pretty much everything in games is faked. Nothing is really...real.

It's just when the more basic things are, the more easily it is to identify that it's a game. Ie. a blob shadow underneath the cars look really cheesy and fake, whereas pixel shadows look real.

Fight for Freeform: "Fake lighting" when done right looks better than "uhh...other brand of Fake lighting" is what you are trying to say?
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I never brought up "faked" lighting that is SSX's term...but I did mention in another thread that you can fake lighting with textures. I don't even need to get into that, it's common knowledge.
 
SolidSnakex said:
I don't care if the lighting is faked, all I know is that its the most realistic looking racer out there. And that's all I care about.
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only in replays does it look realistic in game it looks just like any average racer.

RSC2 beats it hands down.
 
RSC2 is not only the best looking racing game this gen, but it's flat out the best racing game this gen!

There I said it!
 
Kabuki Waq said:
only in replays does it look realistic in game it looks just like any average racer.

RSC2 beats it hands down.
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Yep. And with RSC2 it`s vice versa. Looks pretty bad in replays, much due to the stupid 30fps, but does often look quite real in-game.

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Fight for Freeform said:
GT4 has no lighting. I don't know why people mention it so often and don't realize that is it doesn't do much more than lightmaps and vertex lighting.
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GT4 has excellently done lighting effects. I don't see how anyone who has actually played it can say that it has "no lighting" or anything remotely similar to that.
 
rsc2 is easily teh best looking console racer. its really no contest at all.
 
Ahh...RSC always did have very well done trees (probably the best representation of them in all racers)

didn't like RSC1 though...as such I never cared to try out part 2
 
I don't see how anyone who has actually played it can say that it has "no lighting" or anything remotely similar to that.
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It's a relative term. I did mention the lighting technologies it used...and like I said it's real, real basic.

It's like saying that snow tires on tarmat have "no grip". Well of course it has grip, but in comparison to tires you'd usually used on paved roads, it sucks, right?
 
Wyzdom said:
whatever you call it techno-dude. If there wasn't lighting, all the textures would be black and we couldn't see shit while playing lol
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No, if there wasn't lighting, it'd look like 99% of Saturn games.
 
gt4 doesnt have lighting. i notice this while playing today. take a look at almost all the shadows on the course. they dont move. its most apparant on the overhead signs. shadows cast from trees are simple textures rather than calculated shadows. it makes the world look very still looking once you notice it. the game may as well not even have 1080i by the way. all it does is reduce jag. It doesnt give a crystal clear output say like soul calibur 2.
 
Barnimal said:
gt4 doesnt have lighting. i notice this while playing today. take a look at almost all the shadows on the course. they dont move. its most apparant on the overhead signs. shadows cast from trees are simple textures rather than calculated shadows. it makes the world look very still looking once you notice it. the game may as well not even have 1080i by the way. all it does is reduce jag. It doesnt give a crystal clear output say like soul calibur 2.
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GT4 doesn't have lightning effects much but it does have lighting. If you don't light a texture there's no color on it. Just felt sharing the little knowledge ;)
 
"fighting game
racing game
platformer
action game
first person shooter
sport game
flight game
rpg
etc..."

Subjective, your opinion is not fact.

Where would games such as Resident evil 4, rebel strike, metroid prime, ratchlet and clank 3, GT4 and ace combat 5 fit in?
 
Wyzdom said:
Wow Gregory, i didn't remember the game to look good like that when i play it. lol
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Those pics are from the swedish rally stages, maybe you didn`t play them? They are the best looking tracks in the game, sometimes it looks so real you can almost get fooled.
 
goomba said:
Where would games such as Resident evil 4, rebel strike, metroid prime, ratchlet and clank 3, GT4 and ace combat 5 fit in?
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they don't...this is the XBox fans' thread of graphical superiority...lets just say that games on other platforms can't even compete with the sheer...uh...texture effect pumping power of the XBox and leave realistic debate to other threads.
 
Gattsu25 said:
they don't...this is the XBox fans' thread of graphical superiority...lets just say that games on other platforms can't even compete with the sheer...uh...texture effect pumping power of the XBox and leave realistic debate to other threads.
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Yeah leave the "realistic" debates for the nintards and psyborgs :lol

Good one.
 
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