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RTTP: Ghost Rider - Spirit of Vengeance - Nic Cage deserves to be in the MCU

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Ok, first things first:

This isn't a particularly great flick. It has shitty villains, and a mediocre story.

That said? This movie is worth it for Nicolas Cage's loony, insane performance and Idris Elba hamming it the fuck up. That, and the actual Ghost Rider portions are badass as fuck.

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I loved Ghost Rider turning any vehicle he touches into a flaming awesome harbinger of doom.

Shit, I want Cage as part of the MCU. Play a new version of the Rider, why not. But he's always consistently watchable.
 
Might be a little too late. And the films aren't remembered fondly in the public eye, if at all. I do love Nic as Ghost Rider though. He was the best part of both films.
 
This movie came out on my 18th birthday and has forever stained my ascension into an adult. This shit sucked ass through every pore
 
A combination of Nic Cage being insane, Ghost Rider, and Neveldine/Taylor should be the best thing ever, but it's totally not. it's actually kinda shit. The crazy Cage parts are still pretty good though
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
Anything with Nic Cage is automatically a great movie. There are very few exceptions to this rule.
 
MCU should have Alejandra Blaze played by Michelle Rodriquez so that we can one solo female. Johnny Blaze retconned to old myth from the 80's
Tone should be horror movie except we are rooting for the monster/serial killer. Introduce her with Doctor Strange.
 
That movie is such a bubbling cauldron of wasted potential. It's an exercise in not going far enough and being safe. You got the Crank guys directing. You got Nic Cage being incredibly crazy. You got Idris Elba as a drunk monk.

But none of it comes together. Crappy villain, terrible story, and just an incredibly safe movie. Wish it went R just like Punisher War Zone did and the Crank guys could of went the whole mile with it.
 

Moppeh

Banned
I first saw this movie the day my ex broke up with me. Suffice it to say, the break up was not the worst part of my day.
 
Ghost Rider just never did much for me. And the Nic Cage movies certainly didn't do much to remedy that situation.

Depending on how successful the Marvel/Netflix shows are, the property might work well there.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
if we using that piece of cheese-ridden cock movie to declare Ghost Rider is worth joining the MCU, we're really in bad shape
 
I actually enjoyed this movie too the movie was made by the guys who did Crank movies some of the shots of the movie are just flat out dumb awesome like him changing into the ghost rider on the motorbike
 

Maddocks

Member
I wish it would happen, just for the marvel heads to tell everyone how it was the best thing ever and how nothing can top it and how Nic is in top shape and form and hasn't acted that well in years.

But seriously, the movies have always been bad, but the look of the rider has been pretty damn good.
 

Talyn

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What I wish they would do is use the Doctor Strange movie to introduce the Midnight Sons and just go from there. Ditch Nic Cage, I never liked him as Johnny Blaze to begin with, bring back Wesley Snipes as Blade (assuming he's still got it), do the Rise of the Midnight Sons, follow it up with the Midnight Massacre storyline and boom, you've got yourself a dark supernatural series of films. If they do well they could spin them off into movies with the specific teams like the Nightstalkers, Darkhold Redeemers and the Spirits of Vengeance. Really, Marvel has a decent roster of horror oriented characters/teams, I wish they'd do more with them, I was always drawn more to those than their regular superheroes.
 
he gets shat on a lot but nicolas cage would really overshadow the rest of the avengers cast. dude's...magnetic. even in his turd roles.
 

Aselith

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Neveldine Taylor should get more Marvel stuff. Give them Avengers 2 if you want to see the best shit eva! They'll actually strap a rocket suit to Robert Downey Jr and tape from behind him while strapped to his rocket suit flying thorugh the air all practical!
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
MCU should have Alejandra Blaze played by Michelle Rodriquez so that we can one solo female. Johnny Blaze retconned to old myth from the 80's
Tone should be horror movie except we are rooting for the monster/serial killer. Introduce her with Doctor Strange.
I don't know anything about Alejandra Blaze but casting Michelle Rodriguez for some reason as a female Ghost Rider actually sounds kinda awesome.
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Has Ghost Rider ever put on an Iron Man suit in the comics? Cause I think that would be real cool.
 
Had the same experience as you OP. Went into this flick with bottom of the barrel expectations given how panned it was, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Action scenes were cool, the effects weren't bad, and Idris Elba was hilarious. Sure, it's a crap film, but still a lot of fun
 
Ghost Rider 1 = 2nd Worst Big Budget Comic Film of Last Decade (can't discount Catwoman)

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Venegence = Most Improved Sequel Since, Golly, I Don't Know When.

Even though he's only one year older then Robert Downey Jr. (and is actually younger then Tom Cruise), Cage's action film heyday should be about expired by now. I'll never stop pulling for the guy, but he should really be focusing on taking more respectable roles. Lest he become some kind of laughingstock.

oh, wait...
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Ghost Rider 1 = 2nd Worst Big Budget Comic Film of Last Decade (can't discount Catwoman)

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Venegence = Most Improved Sequel Since, Golly, I Don't Know When.

Even though he's only one year older then Robert Downey Jr. (and is actually younger then Tom Cruise), Cage's action film heyday should be about expired by now. I'll never stop pulling for the guy, but he should really be focusing on taking more respectable roles. Lest he become some kind of laughingstock.

oh, wait...
Kind of makes me wanna see Spirit of Vengeance now. Isn't it kind of a remake/reboot since they changed certain character or whatever? Or is it a direct sequel?

Also, it wouldn't be too bad if they did a complete reboot to fit Ghost Rider into the MCU. But please, no Nick Cave this time. Choose another, more appropriate actor.
 
Spirit of Vengeance is mostly shit. But it has a few scenes so fucking entertaining that I enjoyed it. Anything involving the rider itself was great. Cage's transformations were incredible as well.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
I've watched 30 minutes of this a couple weeks ago. It's a fucking piece of worthless shit, so no thanks
 
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