RTTP: Sekiro - Finally time to git gud at this
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bender
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The good and bad thing about the Souls games is that they tend to recycle their design tropes in their games. Those surprise moments that could equally delight and frustrate you in your first Souls game will be easy to identify in the next. "Oh, I bet there is a trap here." Yup. "Oh, I bet there is an enemy around this corner here." Yup. Oh, I bet there is an ambush here." Yup. And on and on and on.
Danjin44
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My skill issues with fighting games comes from the fact I have hard time remembering combos and during the fight I will be too focus on trying pull off those combos instead of actual fight itself.
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SCB3
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It depends, the 1 off games can subvert it slightly, The ones with Souls in the title (and Elden Ring is DS4 in all but name) all play simialt enough where you can predict alot
Case in point, it took me nearly 4 hours of playtime to actually die in DS3 on release as I was that used to DS2 and Bloodborne, it wasn't until the Abyss Watchers that I was actually challenged, and I am not good at these games
Danjin44
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Good work, its absolutely amazing game! one of my favourite FROM game.
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Boss Man
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Recently came back to this and found it surprisingly easy. I had gotten burnt out after finally beating Lady Butterfly years ago. Restarted from the beginning, and this time I never really hit a wall.
Funny how Sekiro actively punishes you for playing it like a souls game.
Funny how Sekiro actively punishes you for playing it like a souls game.
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SCB3
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Its the same with Bloodborne in that sense
Kenneth Haight
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Randall365
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It's not a Souls game - you have to close the distance quick and then there is a specific response for every enemy action. It is then easy as long as you pick the right option. It's been said before in this thread but weirdly you don't really learn to play the game until after the final boss fight - that hammers it home - as you can barely afford to make any mistakes.
In Souls games you can run about, dodge, roll - all sorts and can take down bosses with plenty of errors as long as you manage to heal here and there.
In Souls games you can run about, dodge, roll - all sorts and can take down bosses with plenty of errors as long as you manage to heal here and there.
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Arachnid
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Go for the Shura ending and make sure you do the father owl boss too
And then shura gauntlet. Then you can rest and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe
TerribleAtThisGame
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Enjoy yet another GOAT From game that won't get a sequel but will instead have its mechanics awkwardly usurped by the next Souls/Elden Ring iteration.
_Idea_of_Evil_
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Not really. Mistimed parries build up your own posture meter and if it gets broken you get wrecked. It pays to learn different enemy timings. This is especially true with the Sekiro: Resurrection overhaul that's basically Sekiro hard/very hard mode with new enemy encounters.
Shura ending was cool and all, but I really enjoyed the Purification and Dragon's Return endings more.
Also each costume from the gauntlets is worth getting. Not just the Shura costume.
TexMex
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Going for the plat, got 3 endings. Doing NG+ right now to clean up.
Arachnid
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It'll take closer to 4 runs to get the plat due to the skills trophy, so take your time and have fun with it. Experiment with prosthetics and abilities
Also do the anayama peddler and kotoro quest ASAP to buy unlimited akos
envyzeal
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I thought I would never do it but I was wrong. After many years I managed to git gut and finished Sekiro, beating Father, Demon of Hatred and Sword Saint.
Owl (Father) was one of the most intense moments I ever had while gaming, you just can't make mistakes, game forces you to git gud.
Owl (Father) was one of the most intense moments I ever had while gaming, you just can't make mistakes, game forces you to git gud.
diffusionx
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Sword Saint was one of the easier fights, I think it took me like 3 or 4 tries, after getting my shit pushed in by Owl for days.
envyzeal
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100% agree, after Owl, Sword Saint is a walk in the park.
Arachnid
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Other way around for me, weirdly. Every version of Owl went down in 1-4 tries. Saint made me quit for years lmao
Yeah, same, only Gyoubu took me less tries than him. Totally overrated boss fight.
TexMex
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No it doesn't. You don't even have to finish the second run. You can easily just farm the XP you need.
Arachnid
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I mean sure, if you literally just rest at the same bonfire and kill the same enemies for a few hours. That sounds awful. It's a known grind in the community at this point and takes multiple playthroughs unless you grind the most boring way. If you have to go for the other endings, just play the game normally lol. You get more points at higher NG+ anyway.
TexMex
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I would rather grind for 4-5 hours than beat the whole game again four times. Already have the endings. There are countless XP farms on youtube to knock it out relatively quick. I "only" need 12 skills and I've only just started NG+.
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Grildon Tundy
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Today I learned the "Sekiro" means "One-Armed Wolf". That's badass. I just thought Sekiro was Wolf's name.
I bought this game on release, and had tried getting into it three different times, but would drop it around after beating Gyoubu.
It was enjoying the dodge/parry mechanics in Clair Obscur that made me try Sekiro again, and it finally clicked a little.
I got past the first phase of the final Isshin boss fight last night. I saw Isshin's 3 Deathblows and decided to log off to try again fresh later.
Just how hard is Isshin?
I bought this game on release, and had tried getting into it three different times, but would drop it around after beating Gyoubu.
It was enjoying the dodge/parry mechanics in Clair Obscur that made me try Sekiro again, and it finally clicked a little.
I got past the first phase of the final Isshin boss fight last night. I saw Isshin's 3 Deathblows and decided to log off to try again fresh later.
Just how hard is Isshin?
TerribleAtThisGame
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Every time a Sekiro thread is bumped, my asshole hurts in memory of Demon Of Hatred.
proandrad
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First 2 phases are the hardest, imo. In the last phase, you can counter and reflect his flashy attacks for big damage, so it's not too bad. If you made it to Isshin, you can absolutely beat the encounter.
Grildon Tundy
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Thanks! I started tracking my attempts and which phase I got to in each. I want to see the data/possible improvement curve when I'm done. I think I'm around 20 attempts and have gotten to the 3rd (Insshin's 2nd) phase once.
I can usually get through Genichiro using 1 or 2 heals. It's Insshin's perilous attacks that are getting me--I have a hard time telling if it's a Mikiri or a jump counter in the little time you have to read his animation.
Nocty
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It's the only fromsoftware title I didn't vet platinum on. Purely because I could not muster up the motivation to do 3+ playthroughs
TexMex
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3 play throughs aren't required. If they were, I wouldn't have done it.
SCB3
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You dont have to, you need to get 10 Lapis and theres 6 in each NG, so it takes 1 and a Half
It will take a stupid amount of time to farm exp on NG+, it's quite stupid even on NG++
HRK69
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What are you talking about? You need three playthroughs to get all achievements/trophies
Save scum all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Sekiro still requires three full playthroughs for the platinum
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Nocty
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yeah, thats what I thought... If it had been 1.5 I would have gone through it again. But that giant ape fight, and the final boss fight.. 3 times? fuck no, no way.
The ape alone took me more than 2 days or so of trying, I just couldn't get the fuckers down. It's not hard in a fair way either, the game overall is the most unfair of the souls games because you simply have the speed and timing or you dont. In souls you could try different builds and combinations to fit your playstyle, with Sekiro it is the games few ways or the highway..
still enjoyed it but it was the most frustrating game in the series by far
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TexMex
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No, it doesn't. Just a couple hours in NG+ to get the "bad" ending. The others can all be gotten with save scumming.
Here is the guide I used to do it:
Here is another (text) guide to get it in 2
Idk what you're arguing, I literally just did it a couple months ago.
TexMex
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It is 1.5, see above post. I would never have beaten this game 3 times.
HRK69
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Save scumming doesn't change the fact that Sekiro still requires three full playthroughs for the platinum trophy.
Using backup saves to access different endings may reduce repetition, but it doesn't eliminate the need to complete the game multiple times under different conditions.
Cutting corners doesn't rewrite the rules, it just exposes that you're trying to avoid the work while pretending it's the same
Well, its because you are 100% wrong
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TexMex
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I can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse or what here. You know full well what that guy means when he says he doesn't want to beat it three times.
Yes you have to see every ending, but you don't have to beat the game start to finish to do that, as shown to you in multiple places. If you want to ignore that, go with god. Sorry you aren't the Sekiro master you thought you were, time to get gud buddy!
HRK69
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Let's make it reaaaaal simple for you: pretend save scumming doesn't exist. How many times do I have to finish the game to legitimately earn the platinum?
Exactly — three full playthroughs.
Save scumming is just a workaround. It doesn't change the underlying requirement
Tossing out "get gud" while defending save scumming is... ironic. If you're going to skip the actual work and still act like you've mastered the game, at least own it with a bit more self-awareness lolll
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TexMex
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Buddy it was a joke. If there was an even easier way, I'd have done that too. I have never sincerely played Sekiro mastery, but I can tell that that's something you're unironically proud of.
And again, save scumming does exist, so you don't have to beat the game start to finish 3 times, which is what he was asking. I understand what the literal trophy requirement is. I linked a 19 part video of a guy getting the plat, start to finish, by beating the game in full once and then spending about 3 hours in NG+.
You're being beyond pedantic here, and being the absolute definition of what people talk about when they think Souls fans are so insufferable.
HRK69
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Ah, got it, now it was all a joke. Convenient timing.
You went from arguing the requirement doesn't exist, to linking a guide for save scumming through it, to now admitting you've never actually played the game seriously, but somehow you're the authority on what counts. Impressive.
And yes, save scumming exists. That's never been in question. But when someone asks how many times the game has to be beaten for the platinum, the answer is and always will be: three. That's the design. If you choose to skip most of that with save files, congrats, you followed a guide. Just don't pretend that somehow invalidates the actual requirement
If pointing that out makes me "insufferable," so be it. I'd rather be insufferable than confidently wrong and proudly lazy
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TexMex
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HRK69
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That's a cute deflection. I'd post a GIF too if I realized I spent five replies arguing against a trophy requirement I never actually completed
TexMex
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HRK69
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You got the platinum. Great. Just don't confuse that with understanding what it actually requires!
Congrats on the trophy BTW. The effort? Still missing.
We're done here