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Rugby World Cup 2015 |OT|
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30yearsofhurt
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Bueno!
Shorty11857
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Pathetic game from Ireland, well played Argentina, well deserved
LabouredSubterfuge
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Ahahahahahahahahahaha
How many mis-tackles was that?
How many mis-tackles was that?
electristan
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Well done Argentina, blamed an almost perfect game.
Good luck to you going forward
Good luck to you going forward
Shorty11857
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Certainly on this performance I'd have to agree.
LiquidSolid
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Georgia should be brought into the 6 Nations somehow, so should Romania. Logistics wise, probably makes more sense for Japan to join the Southern Hemisphere teams (given they now have a Super Rugby team).
Shorty11857
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Depressing to watch but amazing game from Argentina
Those first 15 minutes were so hard to watch from an Irish perspective though
Those first 15 minutes were so hard to watch from an Irish perspective though
30yearsofhurt
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Can we get an update on this...
Great game. Gorgeous plays at time for Argentina. Ireland had the courage and believed, but that's pretty much all they had. That stupid yellow card could have turned the game around, but in the end the better team won.
I think Argentina has the best passing game after AB in this world cup.
Remember, they played very well against AB for a good part of the game.
I think Argentina has the best passing game after AB in this world cup.
Remember, they played very well against AB for a good part of the game.
No point. In a couple of hours time, the joke makes no sense.
30yearsofhurt
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I think he was trying to tell her he doesn't speak english...
Well if you follow that Ireland and/or Wales are the best teams in the NH then Argentina are definitely better than anything we have to offer. Although I will say the game would've been closer had we a full strength side that's still just excuse making. There needs to be a full evaluation as to how teams in Europe play the game.
Can't disagree with you there at all.
I would support a 2-tier 4 team tournament, or maybe bring in a couple of others (Russia and Spain/Portugal?) and have 2 tiers of 5.
Exactly, I just want to have something to be proud of. I'm only 21, I don't remember a Scotland team that was actually world-class.
Even still it doesn't really help the solution of improving the other European nations. There already is a tier 2 '6 nations' tournament in place.
Promotion/reg won't help as it will just be Scotland or Italy being relegated then straight back up the next year.
The weaker European nations need to be playing the stronger teams more often. That's the only real way to improve. But structurally it's a tough problem to work out due to how big the gap is.
It's a difficult one and I don't know the solution sadly.
30yearsofhurt
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How much has regular tests against SAF, NZ and AUS in the Rugby Championship helped Argentina since 2011? I think your answer was out there tonight.
Funny thing, Bosnia aren't bad, the name just sounds a bit obscure to idiot pundits. Ireland will have to play a lot better to beat them.
What's worrying is the English seem intent on killing the International game in the northern hemisphere. Their club sides are demanding a say in the selection of the next head coach and in how their "assets" are managed with England. They're going to do to the rugby side with the premier league clubs have done to the soccer side. Worried for the Six Nations.
What Ireland need to do is start bringing through some of the exciting young players we have at our disposal who have yet to be blooded at international level. Schmidt is one of the best coaches in the world and has built a system that allows players of lesser quality to come in and fulfill the job of the better player who is injured or whatever. The problem is that to achieve that you need a restrictive, rote game plan so everyone, be they of lesser ability, knows their job and can do it. That means you're solid and hard to beat, but you have a restrictive plan as a result. Ireland haven't been a great attacking side for years. Our set piece and rucking is top notch but we dont attack well because we're not set up to do it. We pick wings and full backs who may not be the best runners, but who can contribute best to the overall plan. We don't offload much and don't take much risk in attack. The Southern Hemisphere sides, bar South Africa, have shown us that the way the game is going is for an all court, attacking game.
What Ireland need to do is start bringing through some of the exciting young players we have at our disposal who have yet to be blooded at international level. Schmidt is one of the best coaches in the world and has built a system that allows players of lesser quality to come in and fulfill the job of the better player who is injured or whatever. The problem is that to achieve that you need a restrictive, rote game plan so everyone, be they of lesser ability, knows their job and can do it. That means you're solid and hard to beat, but you have a restrictive plan as a result. Ireland haven't been a great attacking side for years. Our set piece and rucking is top notch but we dont attack well because we're not set up to do it. We pick wings and full backs who may not be the best runners, but who can contribute best to the overall plan. We don't offload much and don't take much risk in attack. The Southern Hemisphere sides, bar South Africa, have shown us that the way the game is going is for an all court, attacking game.
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Argentina has also recently started winning games in the four nations as well, they landed wins over both SA and Aussie last tourny im pretty sure.
edit: i need my bed, flying back from bristol after watching the ABs ruin the french. god that was so satisfying.
got sucker punched by a welsh wanker in the taxi line on the way home which was less awesome, didnt hurt but the coward broke my glasses.
LiquidSolid
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Agreed, though it's hard to see where things will go with Japan from here. Eddie Jones is heading off to coach the Stormers, which is really bad news. They needed to retain him. And the Super Rugby team seems to be a complete mess, with no players signed so far, them being put on the South African side of the competition and playing half their home games in bloody Singapore.
Great game and I feel for the Irish team and fans but the better team won in the end. The scary thing is a) Most of this bloody Argentinian squad will be in their Super Rugby team next year, which is a terrifying prospect and b) This Argie team is still improving with every year.
Geez, what positives do you take from that game if you're Schmidt? It really seems like Northern Hemisphere rugby in general has been a bit exposed at this RWC. There just doesn't like there are any real attacking threats, so defences have continually shut them down with relative ease. And with the Southern teams adopting a very fast paced game over the last few years, it seems like the gulf in fitness levels has once again reared its head.
Some people may disagree with me here, but I believe there's a perception amongst the Irish Union that the World Cup isn't that important. The 6 Nations is where they make their money and the World Cup, only coming once every four years is a distraction. I'd love to see us take the entire four years to blood in the next generation of exciting young backs, and bruising forwards and to build towards an attacking style of play. But that would mean sacrificing a few 6 Nations in preparation. The higher you finish in that competition the more money you get. Not sure the IRFU would go for that.
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