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[Crayon]

Well now maybe you know what "played by 20 million people" is worth.

 

[//DEVIL//]

ABK’s gonna be in good hands I see.

Honestly that's why I don't want the deal to go through. As soon as MS buys them COD will take 19 years for 1 game

 

[Nothing1234]

 

[Three]

Well Bungie are recruiting

People at The Coalition too? wtf, why them?

 

[Havoc2049]

People at The Coalition too? wtf, why them?

Gears 5 has been out of the Xbox Top 50 for about a year and a half now. I mean we don't know the extent of the lay offs. It could just be like 10 people or something and the next Gears game is still in the works.

 

[PJX]

Phil comes in and games are being cancelled and IPs are being killed off left and right.

 

[Jormatar]

The ray tracing update will save the franchise!

 

[Banjo64]

As much as most Halo fans wanted to see this, there’s nothing nice about it actually happening. This whole episode post Bungie has been an absolute disaster. Xbox have mismanaged the franchise. 343 did let the fans down every single time. Absolutely pathetic.

 

[geary]

Well Bungie are recruiting

Are they recruiting to put back in the game the content they removed and for which the consumers paid?

 

[DenchDeckard]

If this is remotely true, it's deffo time for 343i to be shut down. Roll the talented people into other studios and leave halo alone for 5 to 10 years and blow us away with giving it someone else altogether.

They've had enough chances now.

 

[Ronin_7]

Bungie leaving Xbox has to be the biggest blow in entertainment of All time.

I mean Halo went from Biggest game/launches EVER to absolutely dead.

 

[UnNamed]

Good.
They run out of ideas since Halo 5.

 

[freefornow]

Disappointing!!
212 posts and not one Craig with tears pic/gif/meme.
WTF happened Gaf?! WTF happened!?

 

[SJRB]

Imagine having what is arguably one of the biggest videogame IP's in history and fumbling it this bad.

Overwhelming mismanagement and incompetence. GG Phil, ya doofus.

 

[Black_Stride]

SlipSpace Engine for Indie when?!?!?!

 

[Mr Reasonable]

If 343 are to become franchise coordinators rather than a development studio, then that could mean what people around here have been asking for for the last couple of years. it's now possible: Other studios to be making Halo games.

iD software could be getting the call now.

 

[aygomyownroad]

Halo Infinite was a dumpster fire, the open world was boring and just one area. There was nothing interesting or to do outside of killing covenant.
Open world my ass, no surprise the best bits were during the main missions.
Halo should have ended with Reach. Since then it’s been downhill rapidly

 

[anthony2690]

Why would I play Infinite multiplayer in a world where MCC exist? 343i failed big time.

I personally enjoy playing infinite more.

But MCC is wonderful for all of those that prefer older halo.

I still need to playthrough odst & reach on the collection at some point

 

[systemr123]

Craig not happy

 

[Banjo64]

I personally enjoy playing infinite more.

But MCC is wonderful for all of those that prefer older halo.

I still need to playthrough odst & reach on the collection at some point

My main issue with Infinite right now is that the Custom Game Browser doesn’t seem to be finished? A lot of the time it refuses to let me load in to a game, yesterday I got in one parkour map but after that it wouldn’t let me join another. It’s just not a smooth experience at all for me, and hasn’t since launch. The MCC one worked every time.

 

[Varteras]

I don't care what happens to 343. They were given the crown jewel and dropped it repeatedly for years. I just hope whoever gets the franchise does right with it.

 

[FireFly]

So basically, Halo as we know it has arrived to an end...

We don't know Halo (as we know it) is at an end. It completely depends on what the external teams decide to do with it. And these changes were what many people on the forums were asking for! Yet of course now people get what they want, it's the worst thing in the world, Halo is doomed etc.

My main issue with Infinite right now is that the Custom Game Browser doesn’t seem to be finished? A lot of the time it refuses to let me load in to a game, yesterday I got in one parkour map but after that it wouldn’t let me join another. It’s just not a smooth experience at all for me, and hasn’t since launch. The MCC one worked every time.

It's not finished. It was going to be released at the start of season 3, but they brought its release forward on the basis that a buggy browser is better than no browser.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Multiplayer for Halo Infinite is a shit show and not much fun for me personally. Preferred Halo 3, much more satisfying multiplayer game.

I’m not sure how hard it is to replicate that but clearly it’s impossible.

 

[Banjo64]

It's not finished. It was going to be released at the start of season 3, but they brought its release forward on the basis that a buggy browser is better than no browser.

Thanks for the info.

Pretty much kills the remaining smidgeon of interest I have in the game.

 

[RPS37]

Would I completely blow your mind if I told you that I’m currently having a pretty damn good time playing Infinite Multiplayer lately?

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Wtf is this? :

"According to them:

- Narrative solo content has proven to be difficult to produce over the past few years
- Not offering strong player retention
- Not allowing viable monetization for the sustainability of the studio and the teams"

Whatever happened to "make a good single player game" and the rest takes care of itself?

Also I thought gamepass was supposed to allow these studios to create single player content without the burden of financial concern and microtransactions? Sonething doesn't add up here.

Singleplayer games are dead! Don't you remember?

 

[bitbydeath]

Good to see more devs reaching out to those affected.

 

[Spaceman292]

Wildcard: give Halo to Platinum Games.

Or just mod Vanquish to give that guy a spartan helmet

 

[Dr. Suchong]

The dead horse has been flogged, reanimated, killed and flogged again.
It's time to bid farewell to Halo.

 

[Spaceman292]

Yeah I think 10 year live service plan is dead.

10 year plans are always hilarious. They always crash and burn.

 

[Forsythia]

What a shitshow. They should let the IP rest for a while and work on a total reboot, or sequels to Halo 3 and forget the others exist (like Hallowoon or Texas Chainsaw Massacre).

 

[CuteFaceJay]

I get this sense we are witnessing the start of Xbox downfall.

They just trimming the fat off. with flop after flop after flop expect a few people to get sacked off.

 

[anthony2690]

My main issue with Infinite right now is that the Custom Game Browser doesn’t seem to be finished? A lot of the time it refuses to let me load in to a game, yesterday I got in one parkour map but after that it wouldn’t let me join another. It’s just not a smooth experience at all for me, and hasn’t since launch. The MCC one worked every time.

I just play QuickPlay currently, I haven't really used the custom browser, I hope they resolve the issues asap.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Is this a trustworthy person to leak this info?

 

[KungFucius]

I fully agree that the post launch support has left a lot to be desired/was abysmal, I dropped off for a couple months when cod came out, but I'm back playing infinite and having a lot of fun.

But it feels like everyone here wants halo to fail sadly or jump on the hate wagon for 343.

I was really hoping they could bring people back, but it is starting to look like it is too late

You need to take comments with the huge grain of console fanboy salt. Some people are so pathetically obsessed with their team, they like to see others fail. Others, who can afford more then one platform, just care about games. Halo was a fun game in single player. I certainly want more of that. Multiplayer is not something I care about because it requires some kind of commitment.

 

[MayauMiao]

SlipSpace Engine for Indie when?!?!?!

Why would indies want to use it?

 

[Black_Stride]

Why would indies want to use it?

Because, the more engines to tinker with the better.

Its job to worker thread distribution system could/should make it easier for Indie devs to make multithreaded titles.
The way it can calculate fixed rate functions even at arbitrary framerates could come in handy for a dev who is making a game that requires precise timings but doesnt want to lock the framerate.

 

[jroc74]

Halo is what started Xbox movement.
Sales were never the defining period for halo, but how popular it was.

Without halo, Xbox wouldnt have taken off.

I never expected to see someone say Halo was never top dog.

What a time to be alive.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I can’t believe how badly they’ve fumbled their flagship franchise.
Further still it’s like my fear of the Game Pass effect is coming true; a focus on multiplayer GaaS shit to feed subscribers at the expense of single player campaign content to sell to traditional buyers.

 

[rofif]

That sounds like my work profile.
I stopped actively working too but I am not stupid enough to tell that to my boss and everyone in the world!!!!

 

[Sanepar]

Microsoft studio management is a total mess. People who think studios under their umbrella is a good idea are crazy.

 

[Banjo64]

10 year plans are always hilarious. They always crash and burn.

Couldn’t even manage a 10 week plan this time.

 

[Freeman76]

343 killed Halo. Probably loads of shit we dont know about that contributed to the downfall, a lot of bad decisions and poor management I'd imagine

 

[anthony2690]

The_Mike answering your question from another thread, where for some strange reason, you was accused of trying to derail.

I'm taking it with a gran of salt, till it's official or that Jason fella confirms the above.

Really disappointing if true, as I was super excited for the endless.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Along with 343, three other studios worked on Halo. Sperasoft, Skybox Labs and Certain Affinity.
Skybox Labs got bought out by Netease and will no longer be a support studio and rather work on Netease games.
I think Microsoft will do what it has done with Edios and Crystal Dynamics.
As they can't buy any studios at the moment until ABK gets finalised, they will just employ them to work full time on Halo until they are able to buy them.

People asked why Sony didn't buy Edios and Crystal Dynamics as they sold cheap and Sony has a good relationship with Square.
Well, as both of them were working developing Perfect Dark and Fable, what good are they to Sony? They would be contracted to MS for these games, and Sony won't be buying studios that will have to spend their time making games for Xbox.
Master-stroke by Microsoft.
Now those two studios will sit there until Microsoft is finished with ABK.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Along with 343, three other studios worked on Halo. Sperasoft, Skybox Labs and Certain Affinity.
Skybox Labs got bought out by Netease and will no longer be a support studio and rather work on Netease games.
I think Microsoft will do what it has done with Edios and Crystal Dynamics.
As they can't buy any studios at the moment until ABK gets finalised, they will just employ them to work full time on Halo until they are able to buy them.

People asked why Sony didn't buy Edios and Crystal Dynamics as they sold cheap and Sony has a good relationship with Square.
Well, as both of them were working developing Perfect Dark and Fable, what good are they to Sony? They would be contracted to MS for these games, and Sony won't be buying studios that will have to spend their time making games for Xbox.
Master-stroke by Microsoft.
Now those two studios will sit there until Microsoft is finished with ABK.

this Mastet-Stroke by MS is backfiring already.

 

[RoadHazard]

Why is Microsoft so incapable of properly handling their major studios? The difference between them and Sony in this regard is just massive.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Why is Microsoft so incapable of properly handling their major studios? The difference between them and Sony in this regard is just massive.

The sad thing is many of us have seen and called this out for years with 343i's ineptitude and only just now MS Execs realize it and are taking action after 343i butchered Halo's legacy and Bonnie Ross fled with a bunch of industry awards and swag swaddled in her arms as fast as she could.

 

[Naked Lunch]

Makes you wonder what the fuck they were doing during the first 4 years or so of "development" for Halo Infinite.

There were lots of rumors, some even saying it was a godawful Overwatch-like Hero Shooter at one point.
A handful of directors left during the project - which is a fact.
Sounds like the core game got scrappped and reworked multiple times.
Just a mess.

What Infinite turned out to be is decent - better than 4 and 5 - mp is fun and as close to classic Halo as its been in 343's tenure - but overall Infinite is far below what it should have been. Again as a huge Halo fan, im not sure what the problem is - the template has been there for 20 years. Just make us some cool Halo shit.