Kacho
Gold Member
Not opening this can of worms in a thread about Halo and 343.
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[Rumor] 343 is now stopping "active development" and become "franchise coordinator" of Halo. Halo Infinite Campaign DLCs scrapped, focus on MP support
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Azurro
Banned
I'm not an Xbox owner, but wasn't only the multiplayer part the only one that could be accessed free through Gamepass and you actually had to buy the campaign? Or am I remembering wrong?
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CRAIG667
Member
I'll wait for an official announcement or that Jason fella to reveal the bad news above.
I'll be pretty damn annoyed, if I do not get my halo infinite the endless. :/
I really like halo infinite multiplayer too, so I'll be sad to see that die out too
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I feel like I'm only guy here that doesn't want infinite to fail, as it is a game I genuinely really enjoy playing.
I hear you, it's the one multiplayer game I still play daily!
Actually just started my 2nd campaign playthrough too. I LOVE the campaign so canceled content really stings.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Halo died after Reach. Now with this forray into downs completed maybe Phil can spend some of his activision bucks to give the IP to someone who can make a good game . Seriously should’ve bought the split gate team , and had the coalition helm the campaign, visuals, etc. Splitgate guys know how to make a good MP game and all love Halo dearly. Given the actual IP they’d make something special for the MP fans.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Damn Chiggs. Weren’t you a ride or die Xbro? When did the heel turn happen?
No, multiplayer is free to play for everyone. The campaign was available through gamepass or to buy.
Balducci30
Member
Well I wanted that too - but when they said they weren’t that’s when I was done
TheUndeadGamer
Member
I understand.
And yeah this is getting off topic. Haha.
And I do agree with
Chiggs
to a certain extent. If by the end of this year Xbox has not brought out a decent amount of exclusives then I think it will be time for Phil to go. As a primary Xbox gamer I do want to see Xbox do well and churn out good exclusives.
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Azurro
Banned
Ah, thank you. Well then, that should explain the difference in numbers between MP and SP, no? You can't beat free.
Hitchyhero
Banned
The base multiplayer for infinite was fine but it was pretty bare bones for what was meant to be GaaS game.
I did not enjoy single player that much tbh. The world was bare for an open world
I did not enjoy single player that much tbh. The world was bare for an open world
Muddy
Member
Was Halo ever great?
Personally it was a very good shooter in the console market which had no competition at the time.
Things changed when Halo 3 arrived and the competition showed what an average shooter it is.
Combine that with Bungie leaving and it being given to incompetent developers was the final nail in the coffin.
Personally it was a very good shooter in the console market which had no competition at the time.
Things changed when Halo 3 arrived and the competition showed what an average shooter it is.
Combine that with Bungie leaving and it being given to incompetent developers was the final nail in the coffin.
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aries_71
Junior Member
In my opinion, is just the other way around. After playing Deatloop, Doom, Control and a Call of Duty of the Xbox One era in quick succession, you realize how good and unequalled the combat loop of Halo is.
Badlucktroll
Member
Much like how he got a bunch of Halo without Bungie, i fear we will get a bunch of Metal Gear without Kojima
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Better is irrelevant.
Damian black
Member
Next year it will be 10 years he's been in charge and he has nothing to show for it, other than acquisitions and gamepass. No fucking memorable games.
Pelta88
Member
This hit harder than it needs to.
Factually untrue because Halo 3 is when literally every aspect of the game peaked. In both tournament play (MLG), sales figures and even longevity (it sustained a lot of players, years after release). It wasn't until Reach that the IP started to get tainted but that had everything to do with the game itself. Halo 4/5/Infinite are just bad Halo games and average shooters, simply put.
Shut0wen
Banned
Tbf infinte gameplay wise is top notch, 343 did good with making the gameplay alot like reach while adding new things to it, the game as a f2p model is what killed infinte also 343s way of expanding the franchise personally killed it for me, i dont give a shit about cortana, the way they brought back the forerunners was incredibly disappointing and halo 4 and 5 are just bad games, bungie kept it simple with humans vs aliensI'll wait for an official announcement or that Jason fella to reveal the bad news above.
I'll be pretty damn annoyed, if I do not get my halo infinite the endless. :/
I really like halo infinite multiplayer too, so I'll be sad to see that die out too
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I feel like I'm only guy here that doesn't want infinite to fail, as it is a game I genuinely really enjoy playing.
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Naked Lunch
Member
From an outsiders viewpoint - absolutely everyone higher up involved with Halo 4/5/Infinite are now gone. Including Bonnie Ross and multiple leads.
The only name I know left is the guy that fixed the MCC - and that dude is now the head of 343 as of just a couple months back.
To me, those are all good things. A clean slate to start fresh. Boot the people who tried to change the formula too much. Insanity it took this long though.
343 was created from day one to continue Halo post-Bungie - there would be no more Halo if not for the studio. It was a kaleidoscope of 'talent' from around the industry including people like the Japanese dude who was the Metal Gear Solid sound designer for Halo 4 - my point is, these were apparently good people who wanted to keep the Halo legacy going, even leaving other gaming gigs to do it.
It seems all the failures fall squarely on the management, but for some reason these managers were still able to stick around year after year. They're gone now.
We know that Certain Affinity is working on a Halo project currently. CA has created some of the best Halo content of the past 15 years when consulted.
Infinite's multiplayer is good enough that the Halo multiplayer faithful will stick around to play it (im one of them) - especially with the new (frankly incredible) forge in the wild.
The 10 year Infinite plan though, is no doubt scrapped. The same way they said Halo 4 was the start of a new trilogy (which never happened).
The Halo franchise is bigger than just the games - 343 is in charge of all the toys, books, merch - they are also in charge of the entire Halo storyline bible. A high quality (500+ page huge) Halo Encyclopedia released in 2022. The Halo novels are still churning out, one released this past summer, more incoming in 2023. New action figures planned. Maybe 343 will just be in charge of that end of it - and in charge of the storyline bible.
Tough to see the future - but the franchise isnt dead. There is some light at the end of the tunnel dropping most of the people who were at the head of it all these past years.
The only name I know left is the guy that fixed the MCC - and that dude is now the head of 343 as of just a couple months back.
To me, those are all good things. A clean slate to start fresh. Boot the people who tried to change the formula too much. Insanity it took this long though.
343 was created from day one to continue Halo post-Bungie - there would be no more Halo if not for the studio. It was a kaleidoscope of 'talent' from around the industry including people like the Japanese dude who was the Metal Gear Solid sound designer for Halo 4 - my point is, these were apparently good people who wanted to keep the Halo legacy going, even leaving other gaming gigs to do it.
It seems all the failures fall squarely on the management, but for some reason these managers were still able to stick around year after year. They're gone now.
We know that Certain Affinity is working on a Halo project currently. CA has created some of the best Halo content of the past 15 years when consulted.
Infinite's multiplayer is good enough that the Halo multiplayer faithful will stick around to play it (im one of them) - especially with the new (frankly incredible) forge in the wild.
The 10 year Infinite plan though, is no doubt scrapped. The same way they said Halo 4 was the start of a new trilogy (which never happened).
The Halo franchise is bigger than just the games - 343 is in charge of all the toys, books, merch - they are also in charge of the entire Halo storyline bible. A high quality (500+ page huge) Halo Encyclopedia released in 2022. The Halo novels are still churning out, one released this past summer, more incoming in 2023. New action figures planned. Maybe 343 will just be in charge of that end of it - and in charge of the storyline bible.
Tough to see the future - but the franchise isnt dead. There is some light at the end of the tunnel dropping most of the people who were at the head of it all these past years.
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Wulfer
Member
Ah, without Halo you wouldn't be having those great shooters Remember That! Also, Halo owes it's success to Goldeneye the first real console shooter. Goldeneye owes its success to ID and Doom from the PC that started it all. Next time you want to talk a title down like Halo you remember these words.
reinking
Gold Member
I don't know if I agree but I do feel like my trust in the Xbox brand is shrinking. My interest in Xbox right now is Game Pass and I hope that Starfield launches without controversy.
Halo 3 was a sandbox shooter with some of the best level design in the series. Which games at the time were comparable?
Chiggs
Gold Member
I think everyone's is. I am by no means an Xbox hater. I love that Microsoft is a competitor in the industry...I hope they stay, but Spencer's leadership is a problem.
aries_71
Junior Member
Until Wolfkill and O’Conner aren’t out of the company or moved to other MS jobs, Halo isn’t safe.
TheGrat1
Member
I do not see how this news changes that. The worst thing that can happen is for this studio mismanagement to spread.and people are scared MS acquisitions will mean Xbox taking over the gaming industry
ChorizoPicozo
Member
spread?. Xbox mismanagement has been since the second half of the 360 era. and the initiative and playground's fable are keeping the tradition alive.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Great. More shitty Halo games.
Can we please give it to a team that respects the franchise and its players instead?
This is actually a worse outcome. Halo needs to go to another studio instead. People were glad that it was possibly leaving the hands of 343 and into someone at least reliable like CA but now they can be sure the next game will probably suffer from the same problems as the last 3, I feel sorry for those people who Halo is their favourite franchise.
ZehDon
Member
See, this is the damage 343i has done - the series has been terrible for so long, people have straight up forgotten what it did. Halo, at its peak, was an unstoppable juggernaut - the absolute best in the business.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Lol, no. It never was. It was a damn great series though.
ZehDon
Member
Sure, it just single handily established the Xbox console, cemented FPSs on consoles, and it's sequel established online console multiplayer at it exists today.
Gambit2483
Member
Please Understand.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Ori is sweet. For 10 years though, that’s a laughable return.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
yeah because split gate is an amazing hit.
btw halo infinites mp is better than shitgates.