Rumor: Birdie and Cammy for Street Fighter 5

I can only hope Alex is brought back and is as much of an asshole as he was portrayed to be in third strike. Don't give us a watered down version of him, Capcom.
 
I think it's a magnificent example. SF3 is still played religiously in 2015. Tekken 3, a game which sold massively and was released in the same era, is not played at all.

The fact that people are begging for SF3 characters 16 years later is proof of SF3's lasting impact.

People who now what SF3 is , are asking for SF3 characters. There are people who ask for EX characters too. Both of those things weren't very successful. Also SF3 is played...by enthusiasts , I know more people who play casual tekken than people who know what street fighter 3 even is.
 
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I don't see Alex going over very well in 2015. Unless Capcom thinks the extra exposure from being featured on Tropes vs. Women in video games would be a good thing.

Clearly he's talking about things like football, dancing, power walking, squats etc.
 
Nice to see Cammy... but Birdie? I'd prefer Alex instead!

But well, at least Birdie isn't a SFIV character so will give some fresh air. And he's welcome if after the myriad of DLC and updates that SFV will have during years we end having all the Street Fighter characters in V.
Hope Birdie isn't the only grapple character. Still holding strong for Zangief and Alex. Please no one quote me saying "Haggar instead".
I want Alex and Haggar in SFV.
 
Karin was in Capcom Fighting Evolution, she's only not in newer games because Capcom doesn't feel like it.

That's it, don't overthink it.

She does not have the licensing issue that Strider Hiryu or the Slam Masters that are not named Mike Haggar have.
 
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I don't see Alex going over very well in 2015. Unless Capcom thinks the extra exposure from being featured on Tropes vs. Women in video games would be a good thing.

What in the fuck are you talking about, and what does any of that have to do with Alex?
Why would Capcom care about the TvW videos?
 
I can only hope Alex is brought back and is as much of an asshole as he was portrayed to be in third strike. Don't give us a watered down version of him, Capcom.

I think he's a bad choice (Not because of what I posted earlier, it just seemed like the fanbase in general never cared about him) but if they put him in his character should be left intact.

I guess we won't be seeing Haggar and Eagle then.

I would like to see them but I can't imagine they'd be likely choices. I'm still surprised we got Eagle in CvS2.

Clearly he's talking about things like football, dancing, power walking, squats etc.

My mistake.
 
People who now what SF3 is , are asking for SF3 characters.

Multiple polls have shown which characters STREET FIGHTER FANS (not just SF3 fans) like most. SF3 characters always do well. In the official Capcom poll, a SF3 character was in the top 10. 3 SF3 characters were in the top 20. In the recent Play magazine poll asked who people wanted most in SF5, Alex was #5, Q was #8. This wasn't a poll just for SF3 fans, but SF fans in general.

And, it's 2015. Dudley, Ibuki, Makoto have all been in SF4 since Super. That means they've been in current, multi-million selling games. Elena, Hugo, Dudley, and Ibuki were in SFxT, another million+ selling game. And, now Elena and Hugo are in USF4, a game on it's way to selling a million copies if it hasn't already. The current SF fan base is now aware of what SF3 is.

I know more people who play casual tekken than people who know what street fighter 3 even is.

They aren't playing Tekken 3.
 
I mean, Alex could still be an abrasive asshole and not say shit like "you need to shake that ass if you want some friends"

because who says that to someone after a fight anyway lmao
 
I mean, Alex could still be an abrasive asshole and not say shit like "you need to shake that ass if you want some friends"

because who says that to someone after a fight anyway lmao

You realize you're talking about translation of a game released in 1997/98; what the words meant didn't mean much and you're over thinking it.
For one thing what was the original Japanese win quote assuming he had specific ones for each character?
 
I think he's a bad choice (Not because of what I posted earlier, it just seemed like the fanbase in general never cared about him) but if they put him in his character should be left intact.
I thought he ranked pretty high on the capcom poll they had. Not that I believe in polls, but you know.
 
Juri did incredibly well on the character popularity poll they did, she should be a lock. Then again Karin really should be too but I doubt we'll see her.



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I don't see Alex going over very well in 2015. Unless Capcom thinks the extra exposure from being featured on Tropes vs. Women in video games would be a good thing.



I'd take Birdie over Alex. I don't have much interest in Urien but his playstyle always seemed pretty unique.
Like Capcom cares about a video series on youtube
 
I like the idea of 2 characters repping a stage. If they can't deliver character specific stages they should have 2 characters per stage.

Hopefully next up Alex and Ken in a US stage.
 
What in the fuck are you talking about, and what does any of that have to do with Alex?
Why would Capcom care about the TvW videos?

I was mainly joking, but a lot of people in the industry seem to care about that type of stuff now. Anyway, a lot if people would likely find that particular quote offensive.

You realize you're talking about translation of a game released in 1997/98; what the words meant didn't mean much and you're over thinking it.
For one thing what was the original Japanese win quote assuming he had specific ones for each character?

I'm not sure if that reflects the original dialogue but he had separate quotes for each character. From a lot of the quotes in another thread his quotes in general make him look like a jerk. I guess I had forgotten about his personality over the years.

I thought he ranked pretty high on the capcom poll they had. Not that I believe in polls, but you know.

I don't recall him placing that high but if I'm mistaken I retract the comment.
 
You realize you're talking about translation of a game released in 1997/98; what the words meant didn't mean much and you're over thinking it.
For one thing what was the original Japanese win quote assuming he had specific ones for each character?
No, you're right about all that. I think that quote is pretty irrelevant, as it's quite easy to get around and still be consistent with his character. In that sense, the worries about him not translating well into 2015 seem unfounded.

I believe you
 
I was mainly joking, but a lot of people in the industry seem to care about that type of stuff now. Anyway, a lot if people would likely find that particular quote offensive.



I'm not sure if that reflects the original dialogue but he had separate quotes for each character. From a lot of the quotes in another thread his



I don't recall him placing that high but if I'm mistaken I retract the comment.

Ugh my bad I did want to ask if you were joking but forgot :P

No, you're right about all that. I think that quote is pretty irrelevant, as it's quite easy to get around and still be consistent with his character. In that sense, the worries about him not translating well into 2015 seem unfounded.

Yeah, the thing what people here should be talking about should Alex be in SF5 is how he'd play
Alex has been in the lower tiers in all 3 SF3 games IIRC, what would his V-moves be, will Capcom have him be a close range Stun-focused character like in 3S, etc.
 
His V-Trigger should be "Heel Turn", where his normals become dirtier (extra hits while the opponent's down, hidden blade to bust them open when he punches them) and he talks shit and degrades you after every special.
 
Overall the SF3 series did not do well and resulted in Street Fighter getting mothballed for years until Ono was able to convince them to let him make a new game.

Not this again.

First of all, the idea of SF3 "not doing well" is...strange, considering it wasn't really sold anywhere. No, 2 year old ports to dying consoles don't count. It didn't sell well, 'cuz it wasn't sold.
It COULDN'T be sold. No consoles at the time could handle it.

Second, SF3 wasn't even the last Street Fighter related game released before SF4. CvS1 and 2 (and even MvC2, SFEX3) all came out after SF3. CvS series was basically Street FIghter X KOF. Plus, Alpha 3 came out after SF3:NG, actually got a PS1 port, and sold more than a million copies. And, yet, even though it "sold well", we never got an Alpha 4. Hmm...

It's revisionist history to blame SF3 for the SF fighting game drought...when SF related games continued to be released after SF3. It's also shortsighted to ignore the environment SF3 was released in. The series was just burnt out, plain and simple.

But, instead of saying "2D fighting games simply weren't killing it anymore in the PS1 polygon era" or "there were already a DOZEN Street Fighter games released within the 6 years before SF3", it's a lot easier to ignore context and just say "SF3 killed Street Fighter fighters for 10 years".
 
Cammy
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Best girl is back.

Can't wait for Ken to steal the show in the season 2 pack
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Such a shame Capcom have to hold him back to sell that pack.

Multiple polls have shown which characters STREET FIGHTER FANS (not just SF3 fans) like most. SF3 characters always do well. In the official Capcom poll, a SF3 character was in the top 10. 3 SF3 characters were in the top 20. In the recent Play magazine poll asked who people wanted most in SF5, Alex was #5, Q was #8. This wasn't a poll just for SF3 fans, but SF fans in general.

Lets be reality, a lot of that is strategic voting.... and even with that the shoto 3 and the two main girls were Top 5 for the official poll anyway.... (followed by the waifu 3 of Sak, Juri and Karin)
 
Not this again.

First of all, the idea of SF3 "not doing well" is...strange, considering it wasn't really sold anywhere. No, 2 year old ports to dying consoles don't count. It didn't sell well, 'cuz it wasn't sold.
It COULDN'T be sold. No consoles at the time could handle it.

Second, SF3 wasn't even the last Street Fighter related game released before SF4. CvS1 and 2 (and even MvC2, SFEX3) all came out after SF3. CvS series was basically Street FIghter X KOF. Plus, Alpha 3 came out after SF3:NG, actually got a PS1 port, and sold more than a million copies. And, yet, even though it "sold well", we never got an Alpha 4. Hmm...

It's revisionist history to blame SF3 for the SF fighting game drought...when SF related games continued to be released after SF3. It's also shortsighted to ignore the environment SF3 was released in. The series was just burnt out, plain and simple.

But, instead of saying "2D fighting games simply weren't killing it anymore in the PS1 polygon era" or "there were already a DOZEN Street Fighter games released within the 6 years before SF3", it's a lot easier to ignore context and just say "SF3 killed Street Fighter fighters for 10 years".

Lay down before you hurt yourself.
 
[Fugo];167610230 said:
Birdie's cool
I hope Cammy won't be divekick retardedness all over again
but... where are my NEW characters?

Most Cammy players would swap out the SFIV divekick for better/faster normals, safer drills and not having useless special moves like hooligan and spin knuckle. Basically CVS2 Cammy please.

New characters... TGS, believe.
 
...I'd gladly trade these two for Eagle, though.
I really thought we'd get him this time too. It seemed like all the pieces were coming together to have my top 5 SF dudes all in one game. (Charlie, Eagle, Urien, Abel, Alex)

Ugh, I'm still crushed over this. Maybe eventually it'll happen through updates, but with the presumed limited roster, I don't think I'll get my wish anytime soon. :(
 
I think he's a bad choice (Not because of what I posted earlier, it just seemed like the fanbase in general never cared about him) but if they put him in his character should be left intact.

Alex generally does well in popularity polls for a non-SFIV character. I'd say Alex and Q do the best.

That said, would Alex be a good fit gameplay-wise in SF5. I can see Birdie and Cammy being good fits.

What would Alex's V-Trigger be , or his V-Drive

I kinda expect Birdie's Drive to be his Turn Headbutt, and his ability to be Super armor.
 
My man, Birdie.

I can't wait to see Karin, R. Mika, Sodom, Maki and Eagle in glorious HD.

Lame where are the third strike characters

With this rumor there are 6 characters, along with 4 rumored newcomers. That still leaves 6 characters. I'm betting on 2 SF4 veterans, one more Alpha vet and three SF3 vets to round out the roster in the first.
For SF5 as a whole, they're probably adding the rest of the Alpha and SF3 veterans. Except Juni and Juli, of course.

Here's hoping a character based on Rufus's original design.

Mike Haggar
King Cobra
Santamu
Non-Brazilian South American fighter
African Dombe fighter
Egyptian fighter, doesn't have to be a stereotype, just that the character has Egyptian influences, either past or modern or both.
Arabian fighter. Again, doesn't have to be a stereotype, just that the character has Arabic influences, either past or modern or both.
Penchak silat fighter (Indonesia/Malaysia)
Limalama fighter
Filipino Arnis fighter
Then a handful of crazy JoJo-esque or Oro/Necro/Q-type characters.

Street Fighter roster of the forever.

Not this again.

First of all, the idea of SF3 "not doing well" is...strange, considering it wasn't really sold anywhere. No, 2 year old ports to dying consoles don't count. It didn't sell well, 'cuz it wasn't sold.
It COULDN'T be sold. No consoles at the time could handle it.

Second, SF3 wasn't even the last Street Fighter related game released before SF4. CvS1 and 2 (and even MvC2, SFEX3) all came out after SF3. CvS series was basically Street FIghter X KOF. Plus, Alpha 3 came out after SF3:NG, actually got a PS1 port, and sold more than a million copies. And, yet, even though it "sold well", we never got an Alpha 4. Hmm...

It's revisionist history to blame SF3 for the SF fighting game drought...when SF related games continued to be released after SF3. It's also shortsighted to ignore the environment SF3 was released in. The series was just burnt out, plain and simple.

But, instead of saying "2D fighting games simply weren't killing it anymore in the PS1 polygon era" or "there were already a DOZEN Street Fighter games released within the 6 years before SF3", it's a lot easier to ignore context and just say "SF3 killed Street Fighter fighters for 10 years".

Not only that, but arcades dying in NA had an effect as well. Small correction, though. While SF3 got console ports, they were only for the Dreamcast at first. It wasn't until 5 years after release that we got the PS2 and Xbox ports. Even then, the standalone version of SF3 was Japan-only, and the North American versions of SF3 were packaged along with HSF2T as a budget-type thing. So marketing flubbed heavily on selling SF3s existence at all.
 
Not this again.

First of all, the idea of SF3 "not doing well" is...strange, considering it wasn't really sold anywhere. No, 2 year old ports to dying consoles don't count. It didn't sell well, 'cuz it wasn't sold.
It COULDN'T be sold. No consoles at the time could handle it.

Second, SF3 wasn't even the last Street Fighter related game released before SF4. CvS1 and 2 (and even MvC2, SFEX3) all came out after SF3. CvS series was basically Street FIghter X KOF. Plus, Alpha 3 came out after SF3:NG, actually got a PS1 port, and sold more than a million copies. And, yet, even though it "sold well", we never got an Alpha 4. Hmm...

It's revisionist history to blame SF3 for the SF fighting game drought...when SF related games continued to be released after SF3. It's also shortsighted to ignore the environment SF3 was released in. The series was just burnt out, plain and simple.

But, instead of saying "2D fighting games simply weren't killing it anymore in the PS1 polygon era" or "there were already a DOZEN Street Fighter games released within the 6 years before SF3", it's a lot easier to ignore context and just say "SF3 killed Street Fighter fighters for 10 years".

I'll conceed that SF3 might not have been the catalyst for the series taking it's dirtnap. The series never seemed to take off like the other street fighter related series around the same time did and it only seemed to find it's audience years later which looked like it was largely related to the Evo Moment.

And honestly saying it was successful because it's still played today while another game isn't isn't a very compelling argument. Tekken continued to build off the same ideas after T3 while SF3 was a different direction for the series which wasn't followed up on. It's still played by enthusiasts because it's unique in that regard.
 
SF3 wasn't followed up on and didn't "take off" because it didn't sell well. That begs the question, why didn't it sell? Hint: It's not because of the roster, parries or the hip-hop soundtrack.
 
Hmmm, Birdie is an interesting addition if true, especially I didn't think he was really all that popular during the arcade days of my youth.

Cammy being back is awesome though.
 
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