I mean if they should be fighting anyone it should be Surtur but that certainly is one way to upstage the main villain
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(RUMOR) Hulk to Appear in Thor: Ragnarök
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I mean if they should be fighting anyone it should be Surtur but that certainly is one way to upstage the main villain
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H.Cornerstone
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What if it's like the animated movie where somehow Loki mind controls banner into the hilk?
Wouldn't that be pretty much the same as the first Avengers where the scepter influences Banner and eventually he turns into the Hulk? Or the second Avengers where Scarlett Witch influences Banner and eventually he turns into the Hulk? Ot feels like pretty well tread territory already.
peanutbutterlatte
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We now have a world where War Machine, Falcon, Black Widow, and Hawkeye are all technically Avengers. You are ludicrous sir.
H.Cornerstone
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Ahhh, yeah I guess kind of. Forgot about that.
I was thinking more of the Hulk versus Thor one where he splits hulk from Banner and unleashes Hulk on Asgard.
So same as Avengers 1 and Ultron? God no.
And I'd take any one of them over the awful, one-note MCU version of the Hulk. Falcon is charismatic as hell, and Hawkeye is one of the greatest Avengers of all time.
I hope this isn't true. I'd rather him be in a future Avengers movie or his own movie. There's still so much we haven't had properly on screen in regards to Thor and Asgard, I'd rather not have Hulk show up and crowbarred into the story. Unless it's loki just doing another change...
peanutbutterlatte
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If writer's have to specifically include lines acknowledging how shit he is, I don't think that's quite the case. I don't really see how the MCU version of the Hulk is one-note, unless you want people-eating murderous Ultimate Hulk. Which... why would you?
He doesn't have the Mind Gem anymore though.
The Artisan
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not really. up until now there hasn't been a major mcu character appearing in an important role in another's solo film - that changes with cap3. the only time they've appeared together's in avengers films.
What color is the sky in your world?
RuffaHulk is fantastic and needs more screen time. I'll take him in any movie.
They didn't have to do that, but Age of Ultron's script was pretty mediocre regardless. There's a reason he's one of the core members of the team, and has been for decades.
And there's plenty of ways to give Hulk characterization without making him a barely speaking gorilla for the sake of another puny god joke like all of his MCU appearances post TIH. I would love it if he was more like the EMH version of the character.
Black Widow was an important role in Iron Man 2 and Winter Soldier.
Now you're going to say she isn't a "major" character. She is.
Mr. Luchador
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The last two Thor movies were pretty boring, so they need something to peak interest. My interest is peaked. I would have preferred Hercules though!
robotzombie
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how do you make a Thor movie without Thor
peanutbutterlatte
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Well I meant the whole point of the MCU is interconnectivity, crossovers in most films seems the logical extension of that.
Coffee Dog
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Yeah, but MCU Hawkeye isn't the Clint we all know and love. And MCU Hawkeye is kind of boring so far.
The Artisan
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you can argue that she isn't, since she does not have her own films like iron man, cap, hulk, and thor do. she was introduced as a supporting character in an iron man film.
cap3 will be the first time a major marvel character will appear in a film in which he doesn't belong (another's solo film) and I wondered if that was gonna be an exception but if this rumor proves to be true, perhaps they are going to do it from here on out.
the shared universe is the point of the mcu, yeah, but I thought throughout phase 2 that they were going to keep the solo films solo. it doesn't really bother me either way, i'm just guessing they're going to have major characters cross now in the films that are meant to be solo superhero stories.
The Winter Soldier was pretty much Cap + Black Widow as co-leads.
TheWorthyEdge
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Uhm...hell to the yes?
The Artisan
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she was important in IM2 (where she was introduced) as well. but she hasn't had her own films.
Zeyphersan
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I believe it. Ruffalo still has a lot of movies left on his contract, and Marvel isn't willing to make a Hulk solo film yet because Universal still has distribution rights
They clearly WANT to use the Hulk more, but seem limited by when and where. Thor 3 seems like as good a place as anywhere
They clearly WANT to use the Hulk more, but seem limited by when and where. Thor 3 seems like as good a place as anywhere
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
It's already better than Dark World. Universal absolutely trolled.
I hope Thor 3 gives Sif a much larger and important role. Not relegated to TV
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I hope Thor 3 gives Sif a much larger and important role. Not relegated to TV
Linkstrikesback
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I sure hope so.
I mean, it's not like a villain can be a credible threat to Thor AND end up in a serious fight with any of the other avengers non-hulk avengers. Well, maybe Vision.
I mean, it's not like a villain can be a credible threat to Thor AND end up in a serious fight with any of the other avengers non-hulk avengers. Well, maybe Vision.
First off, she was barely in Iron Man 2, certainly not to the extent she is in The Winter Soldier. Secondly, she's a full-fledged Avenger regardless of whether she has a movie or not. You are objectively wrong.
Surtur should be above just being a credible threat to Hulk but villains in these movies are half baked as fuck so I'm not expecting much.
NipplesAndToes23
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Sounds exciting if so. I also heard that storyline it's based on is really good.
But why is he so popular? His movies were horrible.
The Artisan
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iirc she had a pretty substantial supporting role. maybe not as big of a role as in cap2 but she was an important character there.
she is an avenger, I wasn't disputing that. but that doesn't mean she's as important as every other avenger character.
well, you're not convincing me, so no, i am not wrong.
in my opinion, if they figured she was as important as the other major characters, then they'd see it fit to give her her own film series or television series instead of having her stories told as part of another's solo superhero's
Pai Pai Master
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Maybe because other people don't think they're horrible?
Iron Man 2 and 3 were terrible and that didn't bomb his popularity. Thor is just a cool character people love no matter how much Marvel its deadset on making him look like a joke.
he'll be in the trailers anyway. doubt they would keep this a secret.
The Artisan
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really? i don't know how reliable this is but i thought according to it, disney acquired all the rights of the hulk character back
really? i don't know how reliable this is but i thought according to it, disney acquired all the rights of the hulk character back
I still dont get why cable is separate from the rest of the x men
Pai Pai Master
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really? i don't know how reliable this is but i thought according to it, disney acquired all the rights of the hulk character back
The official word from Marvel is that Universal gets first distribution rights for a Hulk solo movie. Since Disney would never be cool with that, Hulk is doomed to appear in movies that don't have Hulk in the title.
That image isn't official or anything...
Zeyphersan
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Pai Pai Master
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Basically what I need most from MCU Hulk. His names for other characters.
Goldilocks and Metal Man!
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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What about Hulk and Joker?
Only dream would pay to see that movie, friend.
The Artisan
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obviously not. that's why i said i don't know how reliable it is to go off of.
although, this ign article says disney would have to share distribution with universal and can proceed even if they say no.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/22/universalmarvel-hulk-sequel-rights-clarified
it sounds a little similar to the deal with sony; in that they still have all the rights to spiderman (aside from sony not getting anything from disney using him) so disney going ahead and making a hulk film would mean losing money?
Zeyphersan
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Nah, the Sony situation is that Sony still has full rights to the character and movies and all that, but voluntarily brought in Marvel Studios/Disney as a collaborator. Disney didn't get any rights back in that case. Even though the new Spidey film will be in the MCU, it's still being made, produced, and distributed by Sony
Universal, as far as I know, doesn't have the rights to Hulk as a character (as in, they can't make their own Hulk movie) but still have distribution rights on any Hulk solo films. So unless Disney buys those, which would be stupidly expensive, they either have to give up that distribution cash to Universal or just not make a movie. They're opting for the later
(For the record, this is why The Incredible Hulk is in a weird place. It's part of the MCU, but not on Disney Movies Anywhere and is still distributed by Universal to this day. So if you buy TIH on home video, Universal gets the cash. Same situation with A New Hope and Fox, funnily enough)
It's not that Disney would lose money, it's that they'd have to share profits due to Universal having first claim at distribution. From a pure profit perspective, it doesn't make much sense for Disney to make a stand alone Hulk film when they would get a greater return investing in a project they can both produce and distribute.
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