badcrumble
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Yeah, if that happens I'm likely enough to either upgrade to a 7S Plus or just wait for 2018.
{Rumor} "iPhone 8" - New drawing/rendering leak
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Yeah, if that happens I'm likely enough to either upgrade to a 7S Plus or just wait for 2018.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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Qualcomm does it through cases/housings so I don't see why apple couldn't do it also.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...mpany-enable-wireless-charging-mobile-devices
They were never going to backtrack on that, the same way their next laptop won't have USB-A ports.
I agree that putting the fingerprint reader on the back would be a poor design decision, though.
Charles Brandon
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The buzz is that it may not be a manufacturing/supply issue as much as they had high ambitions of putting it underneath the screen but couldn't figure out a reliable way of doing so in time.
We'll see, there's a lot of talk about them testing multiple designs too, so I'm not too married to any single design ATM.
I see the pros and cons of both locations fingerprint sensors, but I use my phone way too much as it's laying on a table in front of me to quickly check things and although I haven't used NFC in a phone before, I imagine it's a tiny bit more inconvenient if it's on the back.
Zeyphersan
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I just don't believe they would move the TouchID to the back on only ONE of their three models this year, only to change it again next year when they actually get the screen tech down. Sorry, I just don't see it happening.
Also I think it's really important for Apple to get the screen fingerprint reader working first, before Samsung, since it's so impressive. And since Samsung will likely have theirs ready by the S9 there's a huge fire to get this done by this year. And I still think it'll happen.
Also that placement is atrocious and in no way real
I agree with this completely, and even more so as this design is effectively a long-needed reboot of the iPhone.
My worry is if they have an obsession with the 10th anniversary, want a huge event, and that they have to have something.
If the tech isn't there, wait until it is. Don't try and flog a very compromised design as the new hotness.
It was such a short lived dream. 😭
If the 8/edition/whatever is a mess of a rounded no-bezel screen and touch ID on the back I'll be waiting another year.
CosmicGroinPull
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TheCochese
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YASSSSSSSSSS. Except for the vertical cameras.
badcrumble
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The technology absolutely exists. It's a manufacturing issue, not a technology issue. Apple tends to lock down 99% of the design of a given iPhone at least a year in advance, so if the feature couldn't work (and work well) they wouldn't have even considered using it in this year's design. Scalability of manufacturing is the only kind of issue that's capable of cropping up this late in the process.
It's the worst place to put it, so hopefully they don't go ahead with that...
I think the front top of the phone would be worse than the middle of the back, haha.
Also, the sides.
TheCochese
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It's a fantastic place for it.
jts
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It would be, but just like Samsung, they would be forced* to do it in a phone with almost no bezels.
*because I'll believe in touch ID and cameras behind displays voodoo shit when I see it.
At least it's not right next to the camera and you can't mistake the 2, it's not as bad as Samsung's.
Will miss unlocking the phone on the top of a table though.
Sides are actually the best. On the Xperia phones, it's on the power button. It's really great.
Samsung put it on the back near the camera lense which is just a double fail tbh.
Thought this deserves its own thread considering its KK and not napkin drawings.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/17/iphone-8-renderings-minimal-bezels/
It's got curved corners.
Curved. Corners.
Zeyphersan
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Current iPhones do as well. Very subtle curve at the edges
Scuba Steve
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How is Swype or anything of the like on iPhones nowadays? I find it impossible to part with and if it's lackluster on the iPhone I'll give it a pass.
I've always found custom keyboards buggy in general; sometimes you'd get a pause before loading the keyboard up, sometimes you wouldn't get the custom one you have enabled, and then... even worse, after disabling a custom keyboard the phone would randomly show it.
The area where the home button used to be will be where you 3d Touch?
But that will also be screen? So apps will be using it for..stuff. Unless the phone reserves some area for system things like the mockup.
Zeyphersan
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That is exactly what I would assume
Dee Dah Dave
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Don't like the corners, it looks like a Wii U 
Back is 100% worse.
With the front you can unlock it while it's resting on your desk.
I see literally no time when a back sensor would be an advantage. No matter how you hold your phone, your thumb will always be in a position to unlock from the front. Plus positioning is easier. You don't have to guess where the front sensor is.
do you want wireless charging?
ThanksVision
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man there needs to be a new mobile wallpaper config thread if there isn't. with nova prime customization i'd love to see some new designs from people. is there a subreddit for this kinda thing?
Lord Error
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Well, in the middle of the back of the phone, it sure as hell isn't. There is practically no way to reach that spot with your index finger sitting flat on it, in any kind of comfortable way. A spot where the apple's logo is, would be far better than that, even though I'd still much prefer they leave it on the front where it is now.
TheCochese
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It's not something that was ever an issue when I had a phone with a back sensor. Having it on the back unlocks the phone instantly when pulling from a pocket, and your grip is much more secure than trying to position your thumb to get at the button.
Chittagong
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They don't tho. The current iPhone screens have perfectly sharp corners. The glass is curved, not the screen corners like the mockup here.
Man this hyped 10th anniversary iPhone is starting to sound disappointing - bezel on top, touch ID on back if at all, aluminum back even. Just delay if true. A Samsung Galaxy S8 copy is not worth the hype.
But then it's gonna be 4 years of the iPhone 6 body and compare the bezel of that vs s8...
Unless you really love ios...
Chittagong
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Zeyphersan
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You are correct, I misunderstood.
tiredheadcrab
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I had a nexus 6p for a few months and having the finger print sensor on the back wasn't a big deal and I got used to it. It be nice to have that on the front though. But it wouldn't be a deal breaker over the nice AMOLED screen, bigger battery(because they are changing something there) wireless charging, and a full screen with no bezels.
Also the are probably going with a metal back because it's hard to manufacture glass that curves on such a mass scale that Apple will need. I think we will have a clear picture by June or July when cases start leaking of this phone.
Also the are probably going with a metal back because it's hard to manufacture glass that curves on such a mass scale that Apple will need. I think we will have a clear picture by June or July when cases start leaking of this phone.
Lord Error
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Again, not the case with the sensor being placed in the smack middle of the phone. Try pulling it out of your pocket with the finger twisted to sit there - the grip has to be so weird/loose that it's a disaster waiting to happen.
If they're sticking to an aluminum back and then shove touch ID on the back, then you may as well just keep the 7.
The s8 has curved glass and the iPhone wouldn't be as curved, Apple can definitely do it. Metal would also suck for wireless charging.
They should just wait till they get it right even if it means delaying it for a bit or having it very supply constrained.
The fact this schematic apparently has a metal back (there would be no hole for the logo if it were glass) actually makes me hopeful it's a scrapped design, there have been way too many sources confirming glass for it to be true.
Have you seen the videos on how easily the back of the S8 breaks? Wireless charging would be nice but I don't want a phone with the back broken from a waist drop.
Michael F. Assbender
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They won't delay it because it would kill their stock value.
TheCochese
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My experience says differently about the grip, but about 2/3 up the phone is a better spot.
I felt anyone who dropped something as beautiful as an iPhone 4 deserved everything they got.
This is corroborated by the Bloomberg report and other rumours that they're having difficulties with an embedded Touch ID and are testing versions with it on the rear. It's definitely something that may happen, but I really really hope not. I don't like rear-facing fingerprint sensors.
Sony
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Why? Have you actually used a phone that placed the sensor on the back in a good way (not looking at you S8)? It's a nice place for a sensor if done right.
Also note that the schematic with the rear Touch ID has a metal rear panel while their preferred form factor is a glass rear panel with a metal frame. It's an alternative version they're testing.
RE: wireless charging - I suspect the wireless charging solution for this year's phone will be underwhelming and more recent rumours suggest it might be via an accessory.
I may hold out for yet another year on my iPhone 6 if they end up going with the rear-facing Touch ID. We'll see.
RE: wireless charging - I suspect the wireless charging solution for this year's phone will be underwhelming and more recent rumours suggest it might be via an accessory.
I may hold out for yet another year on my iPhone 6 if they end up going with the rear-facing Touch ID. We'll see.
Jony Ive be like "Keep your damn dirty fingers off the pristine Apple logo!"
Not really, most reports only state them having issues with the Touch ID since it'd be using a completely different tech that's currently slower and more prone to errors than the existing version.
The bottom part is reserved for virtual buttons.
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