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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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Here's hoping. That'd be awesome.
-Pyromaniac-
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But if it's that powerful the price will presumably be pretty high and I really don't think the appetite is there from core gamers to pick it up en masse. I think Nintendo should have gone affordable and made their core focus gamesgamesgames. Shared library, multiple ways to play, lower entry price, etc.....
NinjaCoachZ
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In a best-case scenario the port IS the new game, is what I'm getting at.
I don't think Nintendo will do a straight port and then wipe their hands entirely clean of it by hitting reset and making an entirely new game (meaning potential cuts and other such losses) 2 years later. That would sour many fans' perceptions of the franchise. The port will be the basis of the series going forth. There would be no benefit of porting SSB4 if they're going to wipe their hands clean with a new game. And there's no point in making a new game if they're going to bring over SSB4 as a complete edition with potential new content either at launch or through the long-term. I can't see both of those things happening. There's no reason other than "tradition".
It's going to be one or the other and so far it's looking more like the latter.
Dude is saying even Zelda is doubtful now. No way that one's not happening, come on
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Agreed. Zelda is a guarantee; not sure what he's going on about
Perhaps. Still, to go on Twitter an hr ago and say "Yes!!!" to suddenly turn to "No...." is just odd. Either everyone is feeding from the same source, or people are starting to piggyback off each other for information.
Exactly. Nintendo would be incredibly stupid not to port over Zelda. Would also make the silence around it completely ridiculous.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I have to be honest in saying that bold sounds like the biggest load of BS i've ever heard. Not a single soul on earth is going to hear "development troubles at team internally at Nintendo is facing" until they tell you in an interview postmortem. The splitting the user base thing in general sounds silly. The Wii U is in their rear view mirror dude.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
No Kidding. People expecting NX being better than PS4K is actually expecting too much.
I think I still believe in Toto for Smash NX rumor. He haven't been wrong in the past, has he?
haha no worries. A 2.5 tf GPU and more RAM than the PS4 sounds like a dream for a Nintendo console. If the CPU is 15-30% more powerful right now I'm hoping there's a chance Nintendo ups the performance even more by launch (though that's just me getting greedy). If this is all true it's really fascinating to see how Nintendo plays the power game after 2 generations.
It's really possible that there are people at Nintendo trying to make make Mario Maker/Splatoon and their online components work with NX that might or might not work. That's all there is to it. Companies experiment with these stuff.
Yep, I recall being pretty miffed that I upgraded to the pc version of bf3 from 360 but essentially had to start from zero ,since some of the unlocks were a pain in the mass to get. I think bf4 and Destiny offered stat transfers 360>XB1 PS3>PS4 making it painless to upgrade. If you can't offer that I wouldn't be surprised if folks were hesitant
I can't even see a bit more.
I just barely got on the Gamecube before the Wii came in. Seeing a powerful Nintendo would be foreign to how I've known them all my life. :|
Would love it though!
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Agreed; this is fishy
He's saying all 4 games aren't coming from what he's heard, which makes no sense for Zelda especially
I think you'll get middle case ram and very good gpu by thraktors metric. Closer to 2.0TF then 2.5.
Does a remastered port of a previous gen game sour fans' perceptions of any franchise? Do you not realize how incredibly common of a practice this has become? And no one said 2 years later anyway. Just at some point in the NX's lifespan, however long that will be. Your logic is completely loopy, I have absolutely no idea how you're coming to these conclusions. It seems like you just want Smash to become a service and are trying to paint this potential port into that mindset.
James Scott
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Zelda needs to happen.
That's not even up for debate, would be legit the most foolish decision Nintendo ever made if the decided not to port their crazily expensive new Zelda game to the new system
That's not even up for debate, would be legit the most foolish decision Nintendo ever made if the decided not to port their crazily expensive new Zelda game to the new system
NinjaCoachZ
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Thanks for the perspective. Though I think overall, everyone involved has been saying that Splatoon is the part of the rumour that's most up-in-the-air and should be taken with the most grain of salt. So I guess if it's false then it's not a ton of skin off anyone's back.
Look at how fans thought of Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 coming the same year as Marvel vs Capcom 3.
Problem is Nintendo haven't cultivated the atmosphere of having a game be replaced by another in the same gen. Their brands like MK and SSB are perceived as ever-green. Even now Brawl is the only Wii smash on store shelves.
And the problem with NX's lifespan is - when do you expect this game to come out, realistically? SSB4 is done on Wii U as of late 2015/early 2016. Sakurai needs some time off for his own sake as he's noted the amount of physical toll the game has taken on him. Assuming he does two years or so, that puts start of development in 2020 or so. By then NX will probably be halfway through its life at the very least, and done at most.
I guess it could be done without Sakurai. But then that puts things up in the air. And again... Would be strange to have TWO SSB4 games being marketed and supported throughout a console's lifespan, DLC-wise, with amiibos, advertisements, promotions...
Granted, if NX is simply a "service system" like the iPad or whatever, that changes things and makes it more reasonable to have "multiple per system" (since then there's only one "Nintendo system"). But regardless, I don't think a from-scratch Smash 5 is happening for a long time.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Nope, just a new Wii U game in general. It kinda needs 'em.
But as stated earlier, Nintendo can only pump so much money into a game for a set amount of time before people stop giving a shit. Sooner or later, people are gonna want a genuine Smash 5.
I think the idea is not to digest them till its confirmed; just to feel them out with your "tongue" until then.
Officerrob
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I would hope so, the PS4 is several years old now, and wasn't exactly pushing the tech envelope when it came out
I have no doubt there's a handheld out there but nobody is saying shit about it and it's likely only in the hands of Japanese devs.
$400 is still a lot though, something generally exceeding that 3 years later would probably cost as much.
AstroNut325
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I don't believe for a single minute that Nintendo is going to offer anything more powerful than the iPad or AppleTV.
AcademicSaucer
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Or people smelt blood and are backing the fuck off
I mean idk about the price of tech but with the ps4 and x1 being 3(?) years old now and tech continuing to progress, it wouldn't be out of the question in my mind at least that they can get a slightly newer/powerful/efficient chipset at still a low comparable price.
Something is certainly off, because no one goes from 100% certain to totally dismissing the idea this quick. Puts the "source/s" into question, and whether they are actually hearing this information. I'm leaning towards the idea of folks piggybacking off each other.
Who? The rumor of the 4 games is days old and people commented on it long before night. Now tonight is the straw that broke the camel's back? To go from "Yes, at least 2 are definitely happening" to "None are" is a major shift.
Even tho I really think the PS4K is not a good idea I cant see why it would be a non factor.
Imagine :
- PS4 the cheapiest option, probably the base development for both PS4 and NX. Will have all multiplats. Foward compatible with 4k.
- NX probably cheapier and weaker than the 4K. Probably more expensive and powerfull than 4OG. Will receive PS4 ports, not as good as PS4K still tho better than 4OG. Some important ports will skip the plataform for all the reasons we already know. No BC.
- PS4K the most expensive, the most powerfull. Will receive all PS4 ports, old games can be patched to get performance boost. BC compatible.
Now between this 3 options where do you think the regular consumer and the enthusiastics fits better?
Going further look what we already have launched in this gen, what we will receive soon and whats already announced as TBA. Now look what we have as possibilities for NX.
Honestly I dont see it as non factor, I see 4k as a huge factor.
4K can put NX in the same situation as the WiiU was between PS3 and PS4 OG!
NinjaCoachZ
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Sure, but I'm putting my money more on the "later" side of things. If the port has enough new content then it basically WILL be Smash 5 anyway.
Shpeshal Nick
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Cool actually. I skipped Splatoon on WiiU. I'll nab the NX version.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I think a Splatoon and Super Mario Maker port make sense. I think SMM has a better shot, but I don't know if they are definitely happening. But the alleged source stating they "overheard this about Splatoon NX development troubles" sounds like complete internet fiction.
Oh so you prefer shovelware rather than a port of a decent game? Okay.
ArchedThunder
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If the NX really is more powerful than the PS4 I hope that Zelda gets a few graphical upgrades over the Wii U version. Pushing out the LOD distance alone would be huge for that game.
ultratruman
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Nintendo better get the price right this time.
NinjaCoachZ
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Right. I agree that them existing is believable, but perhaps the specific story itself might be in question.
Also agree that I would say Mario Maker works more as a long-term service game. I have to say myself that until the rumours started swirling around earlier this week, I'd never considered the possibility of a Splatoon port, but a Mario Maker just takes to being ported as a long-term service game like a duck to water.
I wouldn't be too sure. From the looks of things, I don't think Smash 4 will outlive Melee at this rate (as much as I want Smash 4 to thrive). And as stated earlier, if that's just for the FGC, imagine the casuals.
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