Tom Nook Sawyer
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I'm not sure I understand why the data for Mario Maker would be difficult to port over?
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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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The return of the king , The Sony evil years are done
Seriously , NX needs to be more powerfull than PS4 so developers like Rockstar and From put their games on nintendo s console
It'll involve more than just power...
Yeah. This sounds like bullshit.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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GC controller was only really good for Bloody Roar, Melee and Soul Calibur 2.
That's, like...three fighting games.
Three.
Indeed. Lol.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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not that easy huh
that's fine by me if they add past stuff like Adventure mode/break the targets/board the platforms/a new mode as DLC in addition to characters.
as filled of characters as SSB4 is, the game itself still feels a bit empty to me because there's barely any new modes to use them. you have most modes from the SSBM/SSBB days but only the basics and not much to replace them.
not having an adventure mode is a big void in the game. with that roster and stage amount, they could even do some interesting teamups and scenarios.
I wonder if Smash will start becoming more of a service type game where they'll stick with a port of the U version but have the dedicated smash team keep making more additions. This could maybe free up Sakurai to do other stuff unless he seriously can't let go unless he has 100% control over new character mechanics and whatnot.
Why?
alfredofroylan
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Like the Ouya?
Read between the lines bro... You have to be vague on the leaks otherwise they'll be able to track the leaker
AuthenticM
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I keep waiting for "the NX is retrocompatible with WiiU games". That's the leak I want.
they won't. ps4k will likely shit on nx.
Who says it'll just be a port?
We know nothing about it. I'd hope Nintendo is a bit smarter than thinking that a straight port is sufficient for a whole generation. If we don't get new content or even an additional round of DLC then that'd be a pretty massive missed opportunity for them. Smash is a great long-term service platform to sell amiibos, DLC, and things like that. Why not work with what they've already established?
But at any rate I don't see them hitting the reset button on the series for a long time.
I think you're just overthinking it. I'm sure that base work is being put into Smash 5 right now, even if it's not in full swing development as of now, and this port (should all this be true) will just be a definitive version of the game, and a way to extend its lifespan. There's going to be a full fledged Smash 5, just like they'll be full fledged sequels to all the Nintendo megafranchises that we get every console gen. I really see no reason to expect otherwise honestly.
Nintendo World Report is talking about what they've heard regarding Wii U ports. This might be worth mentioning in the OP.
Go to 36:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DucZtVF1MdU
From Neal Ronaghan:
On Smash Bros port:
On Zelda NX port:
It looks like Mario Maker port has a better survival chance than Splatoon.
Go to 36:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DucZtVF1MdU
From Neal Ronaghan:
On Smash Bros port:
On Zelda NX port:
On Splatoon and Mario Maker ports:
It looks like Mario Maker port has a better survival chance than Splatoon.
Thraktors post in the locked thread would give some indication:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200627356&postcount=4434
It wasn't directed at you. I was just commenting on the edit part lol. It's all good, Nirolak reassured me to keep posting.
Anyways, you all should pay attention to the supplementary computing devices patents, I'm very sure those are going to be used to extend Nx's power over its lifetime, especially as the install base grows. Rösti is the man for that.
Starphoenix
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Honestly I don't even want a Smash 5. Just give me a few more stages and some music and I'm set for probably the rest of my time playing games.
Well so far we know Square Enix will likely be porting Dragon Quest 11 which is a great sign for their relationship. Other things like Cloud in Smash are also a healthy sign too imo. Hoping for FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3.
Nice thanks for that
EDIT: I'm guessing it could likely be the "best case scenario" for the GPU since it's been stated that it's "Noticeably" better in that department. The RAM could be either the "very good case scenario" or the best for the same reason.
I'm more astounded at the amount of people salivating over the prospect of paying like $350+ for new smash characters.
I'm so pumped for more Smash since we usually have to wait like 5+ years between releases. Sooooo hype
...TPHD had a ton of changed visuals. No, they didn't touch the geometry. But unchanged? *jerkoff emoji*Zelda U in 1080p...
Assuming they don't do the TP thing and leave the visuals unchanged.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Wait you mean to tell me that it will be more powerful than a console that will be going on 3 years old by the time it releases and was already considered outdated on arrival ? As soon as the PS5 and Xbox whatever the hell they decide to call it releases Nintendo will be right back where they started. All these rumors sound like wishful thinking from Nintendo fanboys or their wet dreams. That's it.
I'd be cool with them turning Smash 4 NX into an expandable platform.
Essentially, it'd start as Smash WiiU, but with hooks for eventual DLC content that will only be released on NX.
Rather than making a Smash 5 down the road, they'll sell you $60 worth of new characters and stages (or more)!
Father_Brain
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The key game here is software, not specs.
No point in even trying to play ball unless they're spending massive sums of money on developing/securing exclusive content for 17-35 YO male Western gamers (aka the PS4/XB1 audience).
They're referring to when TP first released on the GC and Wii, with no visual differences.
AND SNAKE
I know they are capable of it. They don't lack the know how or skill. I'm saying that for many people looking forward to the NX, the possibility of it being less powerful than an Xbone was a legitimate concern. That we are now hearing that NX might be more powerful than the PS4 is welcome news.
NinjaCoachZ
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If SSB5 is coming so soon, then why even bother porting SSB4? What do they have to gain by doing that if it'll be replaced in a few years?
Thing about past precedent is things can always change according to modern trends, market demands, and whims of the creator. Long-term service games are in vogue big time right now. Look at how many fighters are following that model - Killer Instinct, Street Fighter. Doing that for SSB4 would be pretty big, and the market is game for it.
If I'm overthinking it then there sure are a lot of other people in this thread overthinking it too..
https://twitter.com/nron10/status/720083378058485760
"Uh so hearing more and more that those Wii U->NX ports are just wishful thinking. Not ruled out, but seems unconfirmed."
"Uh so hearing more and more that those Wii U->NX ports are just wishful thinking. Not ruled out, but seems unconfirmed."
Claude Augario
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I don't think it matters how much more powerful the NX is in comparison to the PS4 because there's a PS4 and Xbone; developers have a level of parity that works for them. The only way NX would be a power player would be if it became the lead platform, and that's a tall order.
But Nintendo even being in the running is a huge step up for them considering where they've been the past two generations.
Wishmaster92
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Yay new news! Count me in for the NX!
Correction to a typo in my last post: I meant to say that the NX version of Smash 4 could be an expandable platform, with hooks for eventual DLC that will only appear on NX, so that rather than making a Smash 5, they'll eventually just sell you $60+ worth of new characters and stages on Smash 4 (NX).
Your original post I quoted definitely read as a dismissal, even if you didn't intend it that way (the whole, 'you and 4 other people' bit for instance, but the whole post really). And yeah, I acknowledged it's possible multiple times, but realistically, 4 million for a new IP, especially one with such a unique aesthetic and feel, is a very high number. The low ceiling of the console base, in that case, didn't really matter. A higher ceiling could have had higher results, but far from a guarantee of so, like Super Mario Maker, which almost certainly would have sold much more with a higher ceiling.
That's awfully vague. I've heard Smash/Zelda for NX, and the possibility of Mario Maker. Splatoon was the biggest one in question. And he went from certain to not believing it in less than an hr.
Japanmanx3
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Man NX sounds like the real Revolution! Can't wait!
……forgetit
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Sigh, I mainly wanted to hear about the handheld. This is really disappointing for me.
Well so far we know Square Enix will likely be porting Dragon Quest 11 which is a great sign for their relationship. Other things like Cloud in Smash are also a healthy sign too imo. Hoping for FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3.
Nice thanks for that
Keep in mind, in order for NX to beat the (basic) PS4 GPU, the GPU from Thraktors list that corresponds to "15-30%" or "noticeably" more powerful is the "best case scenario".
Edit: lol, i just read your edit, so nevermind.
NinjaCoachZ
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Zelda and SSB4 are definitely happening at that point given how confident the sources are. Plus Trev said Zelda's happening, Serkan Toto said SSB4 is happening...
Mario Maker and Splatoon being in doubt, sure, but the other two are looking 99% likely. Zelda is practically a soft 100% at this stage.
I can understand why they don't want to risk porting splatoon if they can't figure out how to transfer that stuff. I feel like people would've been more open to re-buying the game if they knew they could transfer their level and rank info, as well as all their outfits and rolled abilities. That grinding stuff takes hours upon hours to do. People will probably feel like they'd be better off sticking with the U version if it meant they can keep their stats.
Might just be better to get into straight into spla2n next year.
I didn't say it was coming soon, but your whole point seems to break down to the fact that Smash 4 took a lot of effort, therefore there will not be a Smash 5. We're talking about a series that gets a brand new installment every console generation, not every few years. Smash 4 had a lot of effort, no doubt, but that doesn't mean their just going to stop making new games in the franchise. The logic honestly doesn't even hold up.
And there's plenty of reason to port it, the same for porting any game from a popular franchise. Extends the life of the game, gets more money overall from the project with minimal effort and money put in, if the NX is not BC with Wii U than that means they can potentially sell it to a new audience who did not get to play that version of the game before, and it helps to bulk up their launch line up. Plenty of viable reasons.
Reposting my questions since I think I got lost in the shuffle. ☺
Yep, I'd be fine with this too. If I can get a complete Smash 4 on NX, with some additional content (like 3DS stages on the console version) plus more DLC afterwards, I definitely don't need a Smash 5.
Really interested in seeing what Smash 4 NX has in terms of content. E3 can't come soon enough!
Starphoenix
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Probably just damage control since Nintendo is likely hunting for heads by now.
It has been a while since a Nintendo console has gotten my atention and hype. Hopefully Nintendo finally deliver something amazing, not just in First Party games, Third Party games too.
So far, it looks I might day one buy this, especially if Smash port is released alongside the NX.
So far, it looks I might day one buy this, especially if Smash port is released alongside the NX.
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