Tantalus never leaked anything other than the fact that they were handling a port so, in the unlikely case you mention, the NDA would be brutal haha.
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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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Tantalus never leaked anything other than the fact that they were handling a port so, in the unlikely case you mention, the NDA would be brutal haha.
I don't see how Mario Maker needs a sequel either.
They can keep releasing DLC for years and years for a game like that.
Schnozberry
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My PC is like 4 PS4's duct taped together and it can't even measure up to people's delusional PS4K wet dreams.
Kerotan Frog
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I'm down. Drop the date and price Nintendo and I'll be there. The thought of quality Nintendo games with ps4 graphics is mouthwatering.
Mario Maker should come pre-installed on NX and get updates throughout the generation adding new content and features. System-seller and an awesome game that everyone will have.
I wouldn't expect so. The PS4k has the benefit of additional time, and being able to jump to 14nm which opens up greater performance possibilities. Barring any weirdness with some of those Nintendo patents of course.
I guess you're right. I guess I should say I'm not excited by these rumors. I want new innovative stuff from Nintendo.
ArchedThunder
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I'd be fine with that as long as we get some upgrades like the LOD distance being pushed further out, maybe higher res textures and shadows, denser foliage and maybe a few extra effects placed on top.
Right, but it's far more believable that a western company working on Mario Maker or Splatoon would leak dev troubles than EPD. But as mentioned earlier it would be very un-Nintendo like for a western company to be handling those two, so who knows where that information would come from.
The problem with "new innovative" things is you need the software support to get anything out of them. The GamePad has very little reason to exist, and the best uses of the Wii Remote were subtle and, honestly, unnecessary.
You can do something new without having it be expensive, forcing them to use cheaper components to sell at a good price. I'd like to see them focus on being innovative on a software level instead of a hardware level.
UnemployedVillain
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Yeah for real. People are expecting the PS4K to be like a new generation sized jump for some reason
Jim_Cacher
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Agree. There are still many things we don't know, but what we do know is that many developers in Nintendo are busy. EPD Tokyo is doing a 3D action game that is probably Mario. Animal Crossing / Splatoon team must be working on the next AC or Splatoon. Even Retro is workin on sth for a long time that we still know nothing.
Many leaks are about ports, but this does not mean we are going to only get ports from Nintendo. And most importantly, these three games (other than Zelda which I am not going to judge it is good or not) are damn good games, and I will happily buy them all if they are upgraded or have mew content.
PantherLotus
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Not that I disagree but this argument is made every single cycle when a latecomer arrives with similar / worse hardware. Breaking the cycle has to be the goal.
I would take a fully features sequel with a shitload of new content (e.g. shit from SMB2, the Mario Lands, and the Advance games) than having a slow trickle of new features like they're doing now. Or reinvent the entire wheel with a sequel and make one for the 3D Marios. Anything besides using the game as a "platform" that some people are suggesting.
Considering the ongoing support from the teams those games have had the last year - if those ports are happening it's definitely the teams who created them doing it. And I am guessing for a game like smash, the port job probably isn't hard anyways. But Mario Maker may be a challenge if a touch screen isn't included. Can be done, just have to do a lot of controller tweaks.
Unknown One
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If it is stronger I'll buy it.
Schnozberry
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This would be great if it were possible. It seems like it would be a real challenge to port over the controls to something other than a tablet, but I admire them for trying.
I think it would be amazing if anybody could sign in from a tablet for phone and make levels with a My Nintendo account, but the only way to play them would be on NX or Wii U.
So....this is just going to be a cooler looking wiiU that can do better graphic with a better name? I thought it was going to be a hybrid that made me excited but now that is a "myth" and never was going to happen it makes me sad. What is Nintendo going to do with their 3ds lineup? There really is nothing big coming out of Nintendo from 3ds this year except FEF and BSEL other than those 2 right now thats it. I was hoping for a hybrid so we got a brand new system but maybe it will be coming next year that will work with the NX?
NinjaCoachZ
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He DID say that though he enjoyed his vacation, his next project is lined up..... :O
Anyway there's evidence for both reasons. I do think most feel that a straight port, no questions asked, would be a missed opportunity.
That'd be pretty nice if the wii u save can be used.
I have a hard time believing Tantalus would be allowed to touch Mario Maker, Smash 4 or Splatoon. They just seem too wrapped up in the Nintendo hierarchy to allow an outside team to be involved with it.
TP being done by them actually makes SOME sense since Zelda is actually popular outside of Japan, like Metroid (although they don't even care enough to develop games for that one anymore). And TPHD was the first Zelda game developed by a western company (barring the CD-i games, but fuck those).
Agreed. Wasn't trying to say that was purely the only update.
If the NX PS4+ level chops, they can do a lot more. Assuming their engine is able to scale up that way.
Well, one thing's for sure - I won't be buying Splatoon until after E3 to make sure it's not coming to NX.
I already own Smash and Mario Maker, and I'm not sure if I could bring myself to rebuy them again for full price. Smash... maybe.
For Smash, there would need to be some hook. The game already looks great at 1080p/60fps, so it would need to be something like one of the following:
-Better character models (this is very possible, as presumably the models as originally developed would be much higher quality before being scaled down for LoD etc.)
-New characters / stages (less likely, but Nintendo have to know that it would help sell copies)
-A new multiplayer mode, or rejigged Classic mode (this is the one thing that would do it for me. single player in smash wii u was pretty terrible)
-New music, trophies and other side content (very likely)
Pretty much all my Wii U games are digital, so I'd love if they gave us some discount, but I can't see how they could possibly do that without utterly enraging physical buyers.
I already own Smash and Mario Maker, and I'm not sure if I could bring myself to rebuy them again for full price. Smash... maybe.
For Smash, there would need to be some hook. The game already looks great at 1080p/60fps, so it would need to be something like one of the following:
-Better character models (this is very possible, as presumably the models as originally developed would be much higher quality before being scaled down for LoD etc.)
-New characters / stages (less likely, but Nintendo have to know that it would help sell copies)
-A new multiplayer mode, or rejigged Classic mode (this is the one thing that would do it for me. single player in smash wii u was pretty terrible)
-New music, trophies and other side content (very likely)
Pretty much all my Wii U games are digital, so I'd love if they gave us some discount, but I can't see how they could possibly do that without utterly enraging physical buyers.
Yup. Both games would be ported by the active teams that have continued working on continuous dlc. Just don't expect the art to be redone.
Tantalus could port some Wii / Wii U classic over though in 2017. Maybe F-Zero GX if Nintendo doesn't commission a new one.
Aww come on, you know you'd love to unlock all those costumes from Expert mode all over again :>
Sakurai needs to work on something new and not Smash for the umpteenth time. Smash 4 is good but could have been significantly better, it's time for a new director to take the helms.
How can this argument be made every single time, when it's the first time a home console gets an upgrade like this, halfway through the cycle? The PS4K is basically a good thing, because it will keep PS4 games relevant for longer while pushing the PS5 back further. If Sony fails on both those accounts, they'd be pissing off the PS4(K) userbase(s).
The way I see it, the more people buy Splatoon on NX, the fewer people buy Splatoon 2 on NX. Sure, they're making the pool bigger, but they're doing it for the wrong game.
Also having a Splatoon game already on the system gives them an excuse to hold off on Splatoon 2 for another year or two when I'd rather they'd already be working on it. >_>
Well according the rumour it's more powerful than PS4, however I am not sure that has any semblance on what developers will do anymore.
Strange of the remasters there's no mention of Mario Kart 8 since that's game that still has an active community and sold very well.
That's one part of the equation. The other is that the last time he did something else, he made a wildly original handheld masterpiece.
Let's see what he can do when set free again.
Maybe too close to Mario kart 9?
TheRealTalker
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looking at that thread title reminded me of that latest Kyle Bosman cartoon skit
this isn't even PS4's final form says NeoGAF the cat
this isn't even PS4's final form says NeoGAF the cat
Yes yes YES
I think this is the single most brilliant thing Nintendo could do
Many lapsed or casual gamers still have fond associations of Nintendo as the "Mario Machine," so a system that comes preinstalled with the ability to make levels just like they remember them on SMB1, SMB3, etc, would be mighty appealing
Some might say, "Then why hasn't it helped move WiiUs," but I think the key difference is it would be pre-installed — no extra expense or hassle beyond buying the machine itself
UnemployedVillain
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They're not ditching their handheld though
Then I guess no new gen is "aiming for the stars"
NinjaCoachZ
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Oh no, I agree I'd love to see Sakurai do something new.
He said he found the DLC experience to be relatively-relaxed compared to the main game and he enjoyed working with the new characters, so I guess there's that. Assuming Namco does the grunt work of porting and programming and he's just there to do the creative side of new content and whatnot, that's probably not so bad a workload, I guess.
I'm thinking at the very least it'll be Wii U with all DLC but I'm hoping for a couple new characters, maybe a stage, some trophies/music/other cosmetics, etc. At least for launch. That should be manageable, I'd think.
That really would be an awesome thing to do. Having Mario Maker as a "pre-installed app" native to every system? BIG perk for a lot of people.
I agree that you can be innovative on a software level but I don't think their hardware innovation was unnecessary. Kid Icarus Uprising is a thrill with the 3D on full blast on the 3DS. Super Mario Maker would be a cumbersome nightmare without the gamepad. Nintendo Land is a ton of fun with friends because of the Gamepad. Splatoon feels extremely natural with the Gamepad and I really wouldn't want to play it without it. Captain Toad Treasure Tracker is also great because if the Gamepad. And I'm totally hyped for Star Fox Zero because of the Gamepad. I haven't had any interest in the series until I saw the Gamepad integration.
tiredheadcrab
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I'd be very excited for a Nintendo system that is more powerful. All I want from them is a classic game console like Sony and Microsoft have.
Same as me :3
It just means that the handheld is either in different hands or not as soon as some would like to think it is.
basically this. the industry has shown that it only supports either a high end platform or a low end platform and absolutely nothing in between. it's too bad nintendo specced it right between the two, otherwise it would have gotten some third-party support. now, i'm pretty sure developers are scared of putting games on some weird 'middle' platform. they basically have to make a brand new thing from scratch just to hit nintendo's weird target.
AcademicSaucer
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The 3DS sold 50+ million units and is still selling, they'd be incredibly stupid to ditch a dedicated handheld device.
Not to mention the death of handhelds means AA/middleware games like Zero Escape and Theatrhythm Final Fantasy flat out wouldn't exist or would be relegated to smartphones, which nobody wants. That would be horrible.
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