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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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They don't.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
4K makes absolutely zero sense for Nintendo at this point. I remember they specifically wanted Wii to be non-HD because the HD penetration into consumer households was so small at the time of release.
Perhaps their philosophy has changed.
Perhaps their philosophy has changed.
He buries the fact that there are rumors. Doesn't mention the word until later in the story, and implies this is all confirmed before that...
Schnozberry
Member
Sure, you could always output 4K if you wanted to try and scale up or run titles that don't require a lot of grunt from the GPU. That just requires a decent scaler and HDMI 2.0.
I think pushing 4K for complex titles in the console price range is still quite a few years off. Graphics cards capable of this on PC will still be over $500 well through 2017.
Well, peaks to a certain extent. There is plenty of new tech appearing 2016 and beyond that will harvest some really nice upgrades but if they are merely aiming at current tech, it should still be a nice upgrade.
Personally I thought the Wii-U was a capable machine. Its just the clunky ass controller and the usual Nintendo mismanagement that borked it. A few tweaks to the guts could still produce a decent and capable machine without having to go crazy expensive just o keep up.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I only have iOS, so I'm not familiar with what's big on Android. What I'm seeing in the FTP sector, which I'm guessing is the route they'd take is a lot of war themed games. Far more then any "brain" games.
Final Fantasy isn't putting up as many numbers, because they charge a big premium for their games, which very little of the mobile market is willing to pay.
I'm sure they're going to do some sort of brain game, but I don't agree with dismissing a Fire Emblem as niche. Obviously aspects of the game would have to change for mobile, but I think it could be popular.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I hope they go the whole shebang Bayonetta 3 and sell a priem pack bayonetta triology of rematers.Third times the charm!
DrROBschiz
Member
I would still want a MK8 port
its so fucking good.... i would hate to leave it buried on WiiU...
I hope MK9 is equally as good and lets you access all the amazing tracks. I hate how tracks get shuffled and buried
Just bundle em as DLC or something
fabricated backlash
Member
Even if the NX is stronger than the PS4 it won't matter, as it would be perceived as weaker anyway, case in point, many an idiot proclaimed the 3rd party games in the og. WiiU sizzle reel to look worse than their 360 version, when the footage was in fact from the 360 Version.
Still, this pre announcement phase is always the most entertaining time, and I think that the 3D print fake alone has made the NX speculation the most epic one ever.
Still, this pre announcement phase is always the most entertaining time, and I think that the 3D print fake alone has made the NX speculation the most epic one ever.
Calamari41
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I agree completely. What I'm hoping is that they make the next Mario Kart more of a service, and start releasing classic tracks by the bushel.
Based on what? What do you mean exactly for powerful console? Because I don't think it's that simple realize an hardware significantly more powerful of the ps4, with a comparable price point.
DrROBschiz
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Yes and that goes for ANY system right now
Even current PCs
I think this whole 4K gaming push is going to amount to 4K media and simple games that avoid using heavy resources
Schnozberry
Member
I think we're more likely to see MK9 Holiday 2017. It would be a great title for simultaneous release on the handheld and console.
E3 is for that if they don't do it AT E3, people will whine that Nintendo had nothing t show.
Finally someone says it. It's ok to be excited for NX, but people's expectations and hype has now turned that hope into confirmation bias and poo-pooing anyone trying to bring a realistic approach to it. Hell, just on this page we already have snarky ass comments and people acting offended that the NX could very well be outclassed by the PS4K and Xbone 1.5 by the time it comes out. Be reasonable people.
Yup, DLC should be focused on bringing back all the MK8 courses.
Meesh
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Just woke up, took a stroll through this thread and boy did it get salty. I'm just not even sure where to direct my comment...suffice to say the multiple sources make this rumour the most credible we've had. But that's just it, it's still just a rumour...besides I was personally resigned to NX meeting XB1 never mind exceeding PS4 and at the end of the day shit changes all the time, if there's any truth to this at all Nintendo may nerf it a little for cost/or some other bogus reasons because of the gimmick, who really knows??
All I can say myself is if true, if, many hardcore/enthusiast gamers may see value in the box based on what's under the hood, there's bound to be a healthy selection of third party offerings as well if porting is that easy, and the remasteres/definitive versions(?) serve to compliment the new titles Nintendos already working on. Sure this move looks uncharacteristic of Nintendo, but considering the position they're in? They need to make a statement, it's do or die for them and if there's any truth to this I think that's the message to take away from it. Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo, we know it, the industry knows it, let's see what they've got to bring to the table and with what games.
All I can say myself is if true, if, many hardcore/enthusiast gamers may see value in the box based on what's under the hood, there's bound to be a healthy selection of third party offerings as well if porting is that easy, and the remasteres/definitive versions(?) serve to compliment the new titles Nintendos already working on. Sure this move looks uncharacteristic of Nintendo, but considering the position they're in? They need to make a statement, it's do or die for them and if there's any truth to this I think that's the message to take away from it. Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo, we know it, the industry knows it, let's see what they've got to bring to the table and with what games.
The hype phase is always the most exiting. This year we have all three manufacturers rumouring console updates/new consoles, so E3 should be very entertaining.
Based on what metrics?
DrROBschiz
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Smash, Mario Maker, Mario Kart, and Splatoon all need to be Persistent service type games in my mind
Schnozberry
Member
The rumored specs on the PS4K seem aimed squarely at VR and not at 4K gaming. I think Sony knows that pushing 60+ fps for the PSVR with the current PS4 will become a serious struggle when developers want more complex games.
fabricated backlash
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This year is going to be one for the ages,good or bad it's going to be huge.The hype phase is always the most exiting. This year we have all three manufacturers rumouring console updates/new consoles, so E3 should be very entertaining.
God Dayumm
Banned
These remasters hint at the possibility of not being backwards compatible. Sad.
It would matter, except there will be a more powerful PS4 and Xbone soon after. Nintendo is late to the party.
It would matter, except there will be a more powerful PS4 and Xbone soon after. Nintendo is late to the party.
Captain Smoker
Member
He's probably going by market capitalization, which isn't up to date either. (Sony: 3,81 trillion yen / Nintendo: 2,30 trillion yen)
Anyway, Nintendo isn't a small company, it's a big company. Sony is a huge company.
Speaking of amiibo, saw another patent or two showing how they can make it so direction can be interpreted (which way the amiibo is facing). Could make for a neat Mario Party type of game using a tablet (the pictures kind of show this happening) with maybe a console, kind of like what I was talking about earlier.
But, regardless, surely amiibo-support and features are going to be expanded.
DrROBschiz
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Agreed
I still think we will see plenty of 4K media and simple games and tech demos
You really think that? Call me crazy but I think MK9 will be a mid 2018 game. I think the new Mario 3D game will get the 2017 holiday lol. This is just based on the history of the games and an educational guess. Mario Kart Wii came out in April and Mario Kart 8 came out in May.
Calamari41
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Yup. The guts of all four of these games are robust and solid. Just keep refining and adding content, and at the very least the time between sequels can be extended while Nintendo sees increased revenue over time per title.
All we need is some crazy game rumours to start surfacing and we are set! I wonder if Sony will pull of another Shenmue style coup this year? I wonder if MS or Nintendo will try to one-up this year as well. Fun fun!
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Nintendo isn't small but Sony's first party has been abysmal so far outside a few gems. Takes why to for their higher quality games to hit. So it's not the worse argument in world. No one is cranking out games outside of the usual yearly franchises.
Indeed.
It seems a lot easier for people to imagine a huge team working on a "realistic" looking gam - even if it is mechanically very simple. But many folk have a hard time comprehending that a "cartoony" looking game with more complex mechanics might also take a very large team of developers to achieve.
Agree, if there´s a shared library the gap between console and handheld launch should be relatively close. Releasing the console in november and the handheld in march/april 2017 is reasonable, but im favouring a simultaneous release. Get both devices into the stores and let the customer decide which one they prefer.
I believe the shared library is a great idea and a opportunity how Nintendo can succeed longterm. Thats why its concerning that we havent heard anything about the handheld.
DrROBschiz
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I hope they figure some way to emulate WiiU titles then
Would love to carry my digital library over
This guy gets it!
Would love to carry my digital library over
This guy gets it!
James Scott
Banned
If the console ever gets left behind they can just release a NX.5. If the market demands it, at least. They can see how the ps4k will be received
The Wii U library isn't too vast, porting key titles is likely the way to go.
Schnozberry
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You may be right. I'm not clairvoyant. My thought was that the NX handheld will be released mid to late 2017, and the power of Kart would make it a great launch title.
I really hope this is a thing but Nintendo do love to re-sell games to people over and over, especially stuff VC focused.
TBH, with the low market for 4k TVs currently, if the NX can do stable 1080p@60, then it will last long enough to need a direct successor. Their own games will look great regardless, its just weather they can sustain the games and not just create a Wii-U style drought.
Father_Brain
Banned
Exactly. There's some serious leaps of logic here.
17-35 YO Western male gamers, the main audience for AAA multiplatform titles, are already very well served by PS4 and XB1. What incentive will Nintendo give them to buy the likes of CoD and AC on NX, instead of on the hardware they probably already own, platforms with far better-established and more robust online communities? "Um... but now you can play it on the same platform as Mario and Zelda?"
Then yeah I can understand that thought process.
DrROBschiz
Member
True
and looks like its what is actually happening
I just dont want to have to keep the WiiU around since my family likes to play Mario kart
Maybe Ill leave the WiiU as the family console and keep the NX to myself lol
So have you checked the market caps today? Because Sony is now worth approximately double what Nintendo is now. Not to mention market cap is only one basic metric for "company size."
In nearly every way Sony dwarfs Nintendo, from employees, revenue, and assets/liabilities. People should stop parroting around a two year old article.
Edit: Saw your edit late.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Main interesting part of the rumour is that Nintendo's focus on 60fps means whe'll like get a a significant amount more 60fps games that are graphically up to snuff, rather than 30fps that your better off owning a PC for.
Slam Cannon
Banned
Well in all fairness, Nintendo gamers haven't really had the chance to buy 3rd party quality ports on Nintendo consoles in a while.
fabricated backlash
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Sony just needs to show TLOU 2 for me to flip out. The Ps4 for me is exclusively used for ND games anyway.
If Nintendo blows the lid on NX i'm already dead
I was in the process of editing and linking to them. I updated my reply. I'm just saying what that person you were replying to was basing it off of. That said, nintendo WAS bigger than sony 2 years ago, sony turned it around. I don't think anyone would have said SONY was a small company 2 years ago, so why should anyone say nintendo is a small company?
DrROBschiz
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