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[truendo]

Anyone seen IGN's build?

 

[flak57]

The fact that they are going with 6 inches, plus the emphasis on the ability to stream back to the controller keeps making me go back to the idea of a 3d enabled display on the controller.

I mean, why bother with such a big touch screen otherwise? 5 inches would be fine... Heck, 3 inches would be fine if gameplay was the main reason it was there.

But if you intended for people to use the controller as a main way to view the games for the system because you were going to use 3d tech in your screen, then you would be likely to use an especially big screen, and you would spare no expense to make sure that the streaming tech for the wireless video was top notch.

I know it would cannibalize the 3ds, but honestly they have the tech, and it can't be properly implemented in televisions for a reasonable price at the moment.

Exactly what I was thinking, as I posted above. I think we're onto something with this, and I'm repeating myself because this thread moves so fast things get lost in the shuffle.

I think the screen/controller's position will be detected by the new Wii, and it will act as your eyes in a pseudo virtual reality type world.

Moving the controller will move your view in this world just like moving your head in real life.

 

[Touch]

That looks good but I still don't understand how the screen will be used. If I'm using the thumbsticks, switching down to the screen real quick for something would seem really...impractical

I don't think it would be much different from using the keyboard pad. If it's used to navigate menus' (mini map, inventory etc) I see it as being pretty practical after a while of getting use to it. Having all the menu options at your thumbs.. sounds cool to me.

 

[Mistle]

Much better.

Edit: woops, didn't notice the analog change.

 

[TekkenMaster]

Zelda needs to get out of this terrible pattern of launching during the death throes of the console.

My solution: double up on Zelda: have Skyward Sword come out for Wii and as a launch title for Wii 2, and have a built-from-the-ground-up-for-Wii-2 Zelda ready by its second Christmas.

 

[Maximus.]

I really doubt Nintendo is doing anything as unimaginative as simply grafting a screen into a traditional controller design.

Well what they possibly could do is have their new motion controller and then also have their screen/classic controller. I doubt that it will all be combined into one package.

 

[HYDE]

Anyone seen IGN's build?

reminds me of this, and also reminds me of how close they weren't to guessing how it looks.

 

[Red]

Maybe it's just because I'm used to holding a Dual Shock, but that seems like the most comfortable layout for a dual analog controller.

I hate using Dual Shocks for exactly that reason. Can't handle the thumbstick layout. Feels so small and flimsy.

 

[watershed]

Exactly what I was thinking, as I posted above. I think we're onto something with this, and I'm repeating myself because this thread moves so fast things get lost in the shuffle.

I think the screen/controller's position will be detected by the new Wii, and it will act as your eyes in a pseudo virtual reality type world.

But are we talking about a situation where the 3d screen on the controller is the main screen and you don't engage the HD tv you have at all? Or something else?

btw, I don't see this happening at all. The system still has a secret draw no doubt but this ain't it.

 

[qq more]

Anyone seen IGN's build?

What the...? I just noticed there's a toolbar in the screen. lol Not like it matters but I'm wondering what is with that?

 

[truendo]

Can anyone clarify what they mean when they say that you can use the controller as a sensor bar? Does this mean that the controller actually emits infrared light detectable by a wiimote? If that's true, continuously keeping that on seems like a waste of battery....

 

[antonz]

What the...? I just noticed there's a toolbar in the screen. lol Not like it matters but I'm wondering what is with that?

Thats the 3DS toolbar at menu screen

Can anyone clarify what they mean when they say that you can use the controller as a sensor bar? Does this mean that the controller actually emits infrared light detectable by a wiimote? If that's true, continuously keeping that on seems like a waste of battery....

They clarified that people got what they meant wrong and If I am reading it right that they meant it has the pointer hardware in it

 

[Brad Grenz]

Different sources saying as powerful as 360/PS3, to slightly more powerful, to significantly more powerful.

Supposedly sports an R700 series GPU, which could also consist of something like a 4870 x2 maybe...

But probably something closer to a 4670 is more likely. If Nintendo was going to go as big as a dual gpu 4870 x2 they're just go with a more recent design. If they're using R700 tech it's because they want something cheap and small.

 

[Kibbles]

How much are the controllers going to cost then?

 

[HYDE]

can someone do ign's mockup, but flip the directional pad with the analog stick, and play a black gameboy micro where the screen is?

 

[Eteric Rice]

You know, someone probably asked the developer how big the screen is, and he was just like, "Like, 6 inches I guess?"

And suddenly, it's 6 inches.

I think it's probably going to be a slider like the PSP go.

 

[Vyer]

remember these

You know, this seems like the most viable fit for these rumors. Make it a little bigger, rearrange/remove/shrink the buttons on the right, shrink the stick on the left, add the second stick. THe real estate in the center is the touchscreen.

You could flip that part that rotates back down, to use like a current Wii controller. One handed, or spin it around, use it two handed like a current controller or smartphone.

 

[Krowley]

But are we talking about a situation where the 3d screen on the controller is the main screen and you don't engage the HD tv you have at all? Or something else?

btw, I don't see this happening at all. The system still has a secret draw no doubt but this ain't it.

From my perspective, yes it would be the main display, but at the same time, I don't even believe it myself. It would be insanely radical to release a console with its own television built into the controller. Too risky. People wouldn't know what they were dealing with.

Still, it is the only reason I can think of to make the screen so big, or to bother with streaming games from the system to the controller screen.

Those features are neat, but not really worth the effort on their own. A smaller screen would work just fine if it is mainly there for inventories, maps, and interface features. A huge screen is a very strange touch, and--assuming it is true--they must have chosen it for a reason.

 

[methodman]

this thread is why gaf is the best. love the speculation that gaming news brings out on this forum.

 

[truendo]

Thats the 3DS toolbar at menu screen




They clarified that people got what they meant wrong and If I am reading it right that they meant it has the pointer hardware in it

Ok, thanks. That makes way more sense. XD

 

[Fantastical]

this thread is why gaf is the best. love the speculation that gaming news brings out on this forum.

It seriously is the most exciting time in gaming. Hardware launches/announcements are the beeessstttt.

 

[flak57]

But are we talking about a situation where the 3d screen on the controller is the main screen and you don't engage the HD tv you have at all? Or something else?

btw, I don't see this happening at all. The system still has a secret draw no doubt but this ain't it.

I actually don't necessarily see the controller screen being 3D, was that rumored?

Who's to say there wouldn't be a way to engage the TV as well?

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

What the...? I just noticed there's a toolbar in the screen. lol Not like it matters but I'm wondering what is with that?

It might have the 3DS home functionality where you can take notes or access the internet while playing on the controller. Just a guess.....I guess :/

 

[gogojira]

Anyone seen IGN's build?

Imagination at work there, what a creative masterpiece.

 

[dyergram]

I think it would be kinda distracting having a big screen on the controller to be honest. But I was expecting a little display on the next xbox controller with the gamercard and stuff on it.

 

[Krowley]

I actually don't necessarily see the controller screen being 3D, was that rumored?

Who's to say there wouldn't be a way to engage the TV as well?

Just speculation.

 

[Kenka]

Good visualization. This 6-inches screen thing is really what seems to be a bad design choice but you guys are pulling some genuinely interesting examples of what it could be. Thanks.

 

[BigJonsson]

Maybe the screen is attatched to the wiimote like device and you can angle and rotate the screen or remove it when its not needed

 

[ElRenoRaven]

It might have the 3DS home functionality where you can take notes or access the internet while playing on the controller. Just a guess.....I guess :/

Well that is just a mock up IGN did. So odds are they took a shot of a 3DS screen and shopped it in to give a general idea of what it could look like. I really wouldn't read anything into the toolbar.

 

[Dante]

All those mock ups stink. Do better.

 

[Treefrog]

You know, this seems like the most viable fit for these rumors. Make it a little bigger, rearrange/remove/shrink the buttons on the right, shrink the stick on the left, add the second stick. THe real estate in the center is the touchscreen.

You could flip that part that rotates back down, to use like a current Wii controller. One handed, or spin it around, use it two handed like a current controller or smartphone.

Ooh, I like this idea. It keeps the current form factor, which people are familiar with, yet adds new functionality.

 

[woxel1]

This newfangled controller will make you think twice about tossing it in anger across the room.

 

[Ushojax]

I don't really understand how one controller can offer Move level motion sensing, buttons and a 6 inch touch screen. If it's as basic as a regular pad with a screen slapped in the middle, how would it work with games like Wii Sports Resort? You need that remote shape. I just don't see Nintendo dropping the Wii Remote concept for this new thing.

 

[watershed]

From my perspective, yes it would be the main display, but at the same time, I don't even believe it myself. It would be insanely radical to release a console with its own television built into the controller. Too risky. People wouldn't know what they were dealing with.

Still, it is the only reason I can think of to make the screen so big, or to bother with streaming games from the system to the controller screen.

Those features are neat, but not really worth the effort on their own. A smaller screen would work just fine if it is mainly there for inventories, maps, and interface features. A huge screen is a very strange touch, and--assuming it is true--they must have chosen it for a reason.

Well this is my point. If these rumors are true, and given how crazy some of them are that is still a big IF in my mind, the main draw is still hidden from us. We know about the 6 inch screen and the "improved" motion controls, the dual analog, the streaming. But we don't know why, we don't know the reason that unifies it or justifies the hardware.

 

[TekkenMaster]

I hope Retro has been working on a game for Project Cafe since before DKCR released. Either a Metroid, StarFox or a new IP would be best imo.

 

[Fantastical]

I hope Retro has been working on a game for Project Cafe since before DKCR released. Either a Metroid, StarFox or a new IP would be best imo.

Starfox please. I trust Retro with that franchise.

 

[watershed]

I actually don't necessarily see the controller screen being 3D, was that rumored?

Who's to say there wouldn't be a way to engage the TV as well?

No, we're just kicking silly ideas around. All the "real" rumors are in the OP.

 

[TekkenMaster]

Starfox please. I trust Retro with that franchise.

StarFox really needs a makeover...it's such an excellent franchise and everyone loves Slippy.

 

[Kenka]

Would the 6-inch screen be glasses ? 2*3 inches overall.

Your vision is filled and it doesn't seem that mysterious anymore.

Although, yes, 3'' per eye seems way big.

 

[HYDE]

I'm thinking more like a gameboy micro, except with ds xyab buttons, and gamecube triggers underneath that are similar to the XBOX 360 placement. I know the paint job is terrible, but it helps illustrate the general idea I have.

 

[TekkenMaster]

Would the 6-inch screen be glasses ? 2*3 inches overall.

Your vision is filled and it doesn't seem that mysterious anymore.

Although, yes, 3'' per eye seems way big.

You might be on to something here. Virtual Reality is really the only way forward in video game immersion.

 

[Amir0x]

oh god the story has got even crazier since I've been asleep

i'm surprised the thing can't shoot lasers. I can't wait to see the absurdity of its aesthetic

 

[The M.O.B]

Would the 6-inch screen be glasses ? 2*3 inches overall.

Your vision is filled and it doesn't seem that mysterious anymore.

Although, yes, 3'' per eye seems way big.

It is supposed to be touchscreen though..................

 

[truendo]

Would the 6-inch screen be glasses ? 2*3 inches overall.

Your vision is filled and it doesn't seem that mysterious anymore.

Although, yes, 3'' per eye seems way big.

I guess that would kill the touch screen rumors them?

 

[robor]

You know, this seems like the most viable fit for these rumors. Make it a little bigger, rearrange/remove/shrink the buttons on the right, shrink the stick on the left, add the second stick. THe real estate in the center is the touchscreen.

You could flip that part that rotates back down, to use like a current Wii controller. One handed, or spin it around, use it two handed like a current controller or smartphone.

Hey yea, I see it!

There definitely has to be some wand-like feature about this new controller if it's catering to past Wii games. This might suggest component detachability. This also means that the general mock-ups are invalid possibilities.

 

[Game-Biz]

It is supposed to be touchscreen though..................

Touch Screen glasses.







Fuck yeah.

 

[Kenka]

It is supposed to be touchscreen though..................

Resistive or capacitive ? If it's capacitive, maybe it would detect the variation of voltage due to blinking or keeping eyes shut at a 1 cm distance, which... no, I am just thinking bullshit.

 

[TekkenMaster]

Hey yea, I see it!

There definitely has to be some wand-like feature about this new controller if it's catering to past Wii games. This might suggest component detachability. This also means that the general mock-ups are invalid possibilities.

someone with Photoshop skills needs to get on the case!

 

[Gahiggidy]

It is supposed to be touchscreen though..................

Eyelash control? *shrugs*

 

[Emperor Bohe]

these mockups are killing me man... :lol

just imagine how it would look when you hold the top d-pad