evangd007 said:
I don't think you understand what the blue ocean is. It's creating a product to appeal to users that are not served in the current marketplace (the blue ocean) rather than overserved users already in the marketplace (red ocean). Casuals right now between Nintendo products, Kinect, facebook, iOS, etc., are, if anything, the overserved red ocean.
I understand the Blue Ocean and I don't think that they are being served by Move and Kinect, maybe facebook with some of those games, but there are plenty of genres not being explored there and can't be explored there. Just because Sony and MS are making crappy knock-offs of games that initially sold well for the Wii and attempting to mimic the motion control doesn't mean that they are meeting a demand or even competing for market share. There are many factors involved, this can be seen from the fact that Move and Kinect aren't selling like the Wii did... because those business models are flawed, they don't understand the "casual" market like Nintendo does/did and I'm not sure Nintendo has it entirely pinned-down yet either which I believe is evidenced by them placing a How-To DVD in with Mario Galaxy 2. The "casual" market isn't one that just buys some goofy mini-games... who bought NSMB Wii? "casuals" or "core"? Both, so how do you classify that title? That is what Sony and MS don't see... they've missed the boat entirely with this "casual" market.
To boot, I don't understand your grandstanding about Nintendo abandoning the casuals. The rumors state that they are making nice with third parties and the hardware easy for ports so that good core third party games can appear, as opposed to the exclusive shit that appeared on the Wii (third party exclusives are dead, deal with it). But it's like you are ignoring the parts about "motion better than Move" and "controller with touchscreen than could have awesome applications."
There aren't any casuals, that is the point. Casuals is an illusion created by Industry to separate their vision for gaming from everyone else's. Third parties are dead... Look at their financial statements, look at them closing their doors... They refuse to abandon their flawed business models and hope that if Nintendo changes course everything will turn around and they can continue down their deluded path.
Motion better than Move? I wasn't even aware that Move was any good, I've never heard anyone talk about it... The only motion controller that anyone knows anything about is Wii's - there is no other motion controller out right now as far as the market is concerned.
I agree that some slight changes need to be made to Wii... motion+ incorporated into both controllers, a better D-pad and larger buttons on the Wii-mote, etc. but I really believe that the problem is that games today are broken... there are huge pieces of what makes a game that are missing from most products today. I see an overuse of 3D...3D for the sake of 3D, a complete absence of any arcade-like qualities in games (i.e., too much load time, too many and too long cut-scenes rather than gameplay, overly redundant themes, themes too serious and realistic in nature, gameplay that is too serious and realistic, etc.) These are the reasons people aren't playing these games. "casuals" don't want this stuff in their games, it isn't what they are looking for - they aren't necessarily looking for WiiSports, WiiRace, WiiHealth, BrainGames, etc. They want to punch, shoot, and explore stuff just like most of us do, but not within the same context that most us want to - not within long, drawn-out introductions and movie plots.
