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abstract alien said:MGS on psp runs like complete and utter shit, so I don't see why they are even being compared.
Because lol teh 3ds is weaker than teh psp!
abstract alien said:MGS on psp runs like complete and utter shit, so I don't see why they are even being compared.
My BluRay drive can read DVDs and CDs just fine, why shouldn't Nintendo's custom drive aswell?civilstrife said:This thing will run DVD's.
Forget blu-ray
LOL at holo-anything
P90 said:Not my experience.
MadOdorMachine said:
The point is that the Wii2 may not be as powerful as a lot of people are hoping. It may indeed be roughly the same power as PS3/360. Ridge Racer obviously had some lazy coding, but my point still stands that the 3DS only looks marginally better than PSP imo. It's not unrealistic for people to possibly say the same thing about the Wii2. I remember when Xbox 360 launched people were complaining then that the graphics weren't a big enough leap.AceBandage said:1. LOL Using Namco's shit to compare anything.
2. The other games (especially MGS3) destroy the PSP games. It's not even a contest.
So... what was the point of your post again, MadOdorMachine?
If they packed a Hard Disk drive they could keep DVD. But since thats hard to see they could run into space issues. Using HD-DVD might grant them a cheaper license since the format is death. But the drives are not in production anymore so if they start to make them again it might cost more that the ready availble blu ray drives, for example.Xane said:My BluRay drive can read DVDs and CDs just fine, why shouldn't Nintendo's custom drive aswell?
But I agree, they might stick with just DVD.
Take that out of your head because it doesn't make any sense. So don't worry about it.MadOdorMachine said:The point is that the Wii2 may not be as powerful as a lot of people are hoping. It may indeed be roughly the same power as PS3/360..
Please watch the screen reposting. Saving bandwidth is saving lifes.ReyVGM said:screens...
From The Dust said:buy a better drive?
MadOdorMachine said:
In a closed box at 720p? Absolutely, Witcher 2 and Battlefield 3 included (assuming a 30fps framerate and minimal aa/af of course).civilstrife said:So if it is that card,
What kind of performance are we talking?
Could it play today's highest end PC games at a decent framerate?
1-D_FTW said:You don't have to call people idiots for defying conventional wisdom. Nintendo did this very thing in 2005. It was a POS backwards ass CPU/GPU that they put in the Wii. And they had their most profitable stint in the history of their company.
It's wasn't hard to believe it again when the most credible leaks weren't able to say it was more powerful and were hemming and hamming. I'd say it was common sense to be cautious.
manueldelalas said:Wouldn't surprise me one bit. There is no real reason to go Blu-Ray, unless you want to make your system much more expensive.
Remember Nintendo worries about things like loading times, and it's way cheaper to put a fast DVD drive there than a fast Blu-Ray drive there. Many PS3 games had the problem of slow BR drive, and developers had to copy the same data many times on the same blu ray to solve it...
Double layered-DVDs are enough for 99.9% of the games, and in the future this is unlikely to change.
antonz said:Thats because there has never been an actual statement of power. The statement was the Wii2 will share a similar architecture to the 360. A new Generation of Tri Core PowerPC CPU is a similar architecture while also being state of the art versus antique.
On Paper seeing Tri Core PowerPC the average uninformed person might assume its equal.
ReyVGM said:1) You are comparing screenshots, which are almost always bullshots. Compare videos and you'll see the difference.
2) You are comparing late-gen PSP games with 1st gen 3DS games. Some of which are ports and/or are reusing old engines.
And if it's indeed $350 to $400 and the size of an Xbox360 as IGN claims, it may be a full generation ahead of PS360. We'll see.MadOdorMachine said:The point is that the Wii2 may not be as powerful as a lot of people are hoping. It may indeed be roughly the same power as PS3/360. Ridge Racer obviously had some lazy coding, but my point still stands that the 3DS only looks marginally better than PSP imo. It's not unrealistic for people to possibly say the same thing about the Wii2. I remember when Xbox 360 launched people were complaining then that the graphics weren't a big enough leap.
'I will be very very sad man if that is true.civilstrife said:This thing will run DVD's.
Forget blu-ray
LOL at holo-anything
ReyVGM said:1) You are comparing screenshots, which are almost always bullshots. Compare videos and you'll see the difference.
2) You are comparing late-gen PSP games with 1st gen 3DS games. Some of which are ports and/or are reusing old engines.
wsippel said:We know that they spent a rather huge amount in 2007, $370 million to be exact, after spending $103 million in 2006 (and only $34 million in 2003). Several sites considered that fact newsworthy back then. Yet it seems like they spent another $370 million in 2008, $430 million in 2009, and $489 million in 2010.
Do someone have the numbers for 2004 and 2005 so we can do a graph?^^[Nintex] said:Yeah you can look that up in Nintendo's reports, $596 million was projected for 2011, $400+ for 2010 and 2009 as well so over the last 3 years they spend about $1.5 billion in R&D.
So if this is close to the actual controller, how does the motion control fit in?antonz said:01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.
They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
civilstrife said:This thing will run DVD's.
Forget blu-ray
LOL at holo-anything
antonz said:01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.
They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
MadOdorMachine said:The point is that the Wii2 may not be as powerful as a lot of people are hoping. It may indeed be roughly the same power as PS3/360. Ridge Racer obviously had some lazy coding, but my point still stands that the 3DS only looks marginally better than PSP imo. It's not unrealistic for people to possibly say the same thing about the Wii2. I remember when Xbox 360 launched people were complaining then that the graphics weren't a big enough leap.
Thats kinda the whole tricky thing. Motion controls have been suggested to still be in and greatly improved over even Move. I have a hard time thinking they are in a tablet like controller personally.BertramCooper said:So if this is close to the actual controller, how does the motion control fit in?
This thread is moving so quickly that I feel a bit lost. From what we know, will the Cafe have motion controls or not?
It'd have to be detachable thenBertramCooper said:So if this is close to the actual controller, how does the motion control fit in?
This thread is moving so quickly that I feel a bit lost. From what we know, will the Cafe have motion controls or not?
It supposedly supports motion controls, but they're not standard anymore. The new dual analog touchscreen controller will be standard.BertramCooper said:So if this is close to the actual controller, how does the motion control fit in?
This thread is moving so quickly that I feel a bit lost. From what we know, will the Cafe have motion controls or not?
antonz said:01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.
They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
Yeah and technically since they say it simply comes the closest out of designs so far it doesnt mean its fully accurate either. Alot could be changed but button placements and such could be right onartwalknoon said:That mock up has way too much blank space. It looks like it could lose some half-inches around the edge and be much sleeker in design.
It also sort of looks like a gameboy.artwalknoon said:That mock up has way too much blank space. It looks like it could lose some half-inches around the edge and be much sleeker in design.
MadOdorMachine said:LOL images
antonz said:Yeah and technically since they say it simply comes the closest out of designs so far it doesnt mean its fully accurate either. Alot could be changed but button placements and such could be right on
antonz said:01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.
They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
artwalknoon said:That mock up has way too much blank space. It looks like it could lose some half-inches around the edge and be much sleeker in design.
It may only "look marginally better in your opinion" but the simple fact is your opinion is wrong. There's no debate left to be made there, MGS3 and RE:R are both light years ahead of anything produced on PSP despite being first generation sofrware, that's simply the reality of the situation, there's no room for interpretation.MadOdorMachine said:The point is that the Wii2 may not be as powerful as a lot of people are hoping. It may indeed be roughly the same power as PS3/360. Ridge Racer obviously had some lazy coding, but my point still stands that the 3DS only looks marginally better than PSP imo. It's not unrealistic for people to possibly say the same thing about the Wii2. I remember when Xbox 360 launched people were complaining then that the graphics weren't a big enough leap.
Hey, you're right! That'd be pretty cool if the console looked like a modernized SNES and the controllers looked like modernized gamboys! The thing would sell on retro nostalgia alone.CoffeeJanitor said:It also sort of looks like a gameboy.
Krowley said:possibly including sliders instead of sticks, which would make sense.
Graphics Horse said:Reducing it risks making it look like an NGP, heh.
artwalknoon said:Hey, you're right! That'd be pretty cool if the console looked like a modernized SNES and the controllers looked like modernized gamboys! The thing would sell on retro nostalgia alone.
NOOOOO! The slider works good for the 3ds but sticks are far superior and unless Nintendo wants you sticking this thing in your pocket or down your pants there's no need for sliders, unless of course it does have some sort of clamshell design.
wsippel said:It supposedly supports motion controls, but they're not standard anymore. The new dual analog touchscreen controller will be standard.
I've seen the videos and I've got both systems. Is this a better comparison?ReyVGM said:1) You are comparing screenshots, which are almost always bullshots. Compare videos and you'll see the difference.
2) You are comparing late-gen PSP games with 1st gen 3DS games. Some of which are ports and/or are reusing old engines.
artwalknoon said:Hey, you're right! That'd be pretty cool if the console looked like a modernized SNES and the controllers looked like modernized gamboys! The thing would sell on retro nostalgia alone.
NOOOOO! The slider works good for the 3ds but sticks are far superior and unless Nintendo wants you sticking this thing in your pocket or down your pants there's no need for sliders, unless of course it does have some sort of clamshell design.
I really don't see that happening. There needs to be a single, universal standard.KAL2006 said:or both will be the standard, the console will come with the new controller and an old WiiMote+
neoanarch said:the androgyne made this mockup.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2u73cc7.gif
GoW is 60fps on psp? Nice, if so.MadOdorMachine said:I've seen the videos and I've got both systems. Is this a better comparison?
Kid Icarus VS God of War
KAL2006 said:that mock up is probably the best I have seen
wsippel said:I really don't see that happening. There needs to be a single, universal standard.
neoanarch said:the androgyne made this mockup.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2u73cc7.gif
my theory if the 6in screen thing is true, then they'll try and reduce the size enough to mimic the wiimote. I'm trying to imagine myself using the NGP like I would the wiimote. My other theory is that its not actually a 6in screen. A four inch screen would probably be better.
antonz said:01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.
They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
antonz said:Thats kinda the whole tricky thing. Motion controls have been suggested to still be in and greatly improved over even Move. I have a hard time thinking they are in a tablet like controller personally.