Rumor: Wii U final specs
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If there was a different core architecture involved, the word "Broadway" had not appeared at all.
It will get roughly two years of substantive support as opposed to zero. Unless you think PS360 are going to be dropped in christmas of 2013. So it already has that advantage on the Wii. This is assuming of course that developers are interested in porting PS360 games to Wii U.
metalslimer
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Actually it was the wii and ds that accounted for a large amount of the growth early this gen. When the wii slowed down was actually when we started seeing contractions. Of course it wasnt all the growth but the wii accounted for a large percentage of it
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Maybe the term Broadway is used because of similarities and newer architecture, with ressemblance with Broadway.
Broadway used to not tell the PowerPC line its based on.
I knew these responses were coming.
abstract alien
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Wii U threads could sustain the entirety of gaf at this point. These things are insane lol. As far as the specs go....meh. If I can play games that look like the Zelda demo, I don't really care at all. Not sure why I even came and posted this.
I'd love to think like the way you think, but I just can't. Its not about getting the console, I know I'll do that no matter what because of the 1st party games. Its more about how frequently you use that console. Because of Mario, SSBB, Mario Kart, etc. Nintendo consoles have been a must in my house, but more often than not you see people use a PlayStation console for one simple reason: 3rd party support. I don't want to always carry 2 or more consoles with me, I just want one that will satisfy me completely, and I want that to be a Nintendo console for once. Specs are highly important to achieve this. And if this thread is anything to go by, things aren't looking too good.
So yes, I want a Wii U, but I'm disappointed that I'll also know that it is just not enough.
Oh please. Sony and Microsoft would die for those audiences -- it isn't that they don't want them, it's that they can't get them.
The suggestion that Sony is purposefully limiting themselves to a small, unprofitable subsection of gamers is absurd.
You cannot talk about the industry without talking about iOS and Facebook anymore. I understand that the world is nicer if we can just talk about the home consoles you happen to personally care about -- and in game discussion threads, you can -- but any industry analysis is pathetically myopic without handhelds, mobile platforms, and F2P/browser gaming included at this point.
The age when we could discuss the "gaming industry" and implicitly only be talking about home consoles is long since passed. If you'd like to remain blindered, you'll have to talk to someone else.
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Hey i dont play Madden or Call of Duty or BF3. I dont even consider those games, id rather read a book or play guitar or something than touch any of that. So no, i wont be dropping anything once xboxwhatever comes. You guys need to realize not everyone plays these types of games. Some people have different interest and focus.
The Xtortionist
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Wait, no optical input?
It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Yeah they want to be the main and to win back the so called 'hardcore' But with PSN and Live, I doubt we'll ever see much if any platform swapping again. Maybe if they gave those users a substantial upgrade, they might have gotten curious, but that's not the case. As for pushing eShop, that'd be hard with no providing a HDD. I mean sure I'll buy one for the Wii U when I get it, but I doubt the mainstream audience will.
In the end, it's all about the games though. And if Nintendo want to capture a bigger audience, they need to increase their first party output considerably. Not in terms of quality or quantity, but variety. I really like Nintendo games, but they tend to have similar styles and aesthetics. If you like one, you'll probably like the rest. Make games that appeal to different audiences, so there's always something for everyone. Having your bases covered means everyone will at least have something to be interested in.
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You'd pay 300$ for a hdmi out? that's just weird....
not_so_special
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good for you
yeah because the hd consoles entire library is battlefield or cod..
Which part of Sony are you talking about? I honestly think there are some elements within Sony that could care less about this new audience and want to go on the path that the PS3 started out with. We even know within Nintendo that many disagreed with the Wii philosophy.
So the goal post moving now is non-Nintendo software?
From 2006 to 2010, absolutely any growth in the industry was due to the Wii's success. This is noted in several different areas including NPD data. Maybe people are forgetting how at the peak of the Wii hype it was outselling the "HD twin" category. If this generation had followed previous console cycles and lasted only 5 years then it wouldn't have been an issue. Every single system has overstayed their welcome by this point and one of the reasons we are seeing such awful numbers every month. The market has stagnated to a large degree in addition to non-traditional sectors like iOS/Android/Facebook stealing people's time and/or money.
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If the appeal of the casual audience wasn't so lucrative then Sony and MS wouldn't have shifted their own products to appeal to that same market. The PS Move and Kinect are pretty much proof in the pudding that both of those companies saw that Nintendo literally struck gold and wanted in on it.
metalslimer
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It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Pretty much. The start of this gen would have been abysmal without nintendo and its surprising most people dont know that. If wii u is a failure and casuals have moved on i hate to see console growth numbers going into next gen
Now all they need to do is catch up to the original Xbox in terms of online infrastructure and we're good to go!
Eh. External hard drives make this a non issue. But doesn't it open the door to piracy from the get go?
abstract alien
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Wow
A million people buy burgers at McDonald's.
3/4 of a million people buy fried fish at Subway.
3/4 of a million people buy fried fish at Quizno's.
"McDonald's (among other things) show that most people don't care about fried fish!"
Agree or disagree?
(Oh and in case it's not abundantly clear, the figures are illustrative)
Oh sh-t, I'm having a 'someone is wrong on the internet' moment. Look, I can't be any clearer in what we were talking about. Sorry.
And yes, I am applying a context. Absolutely. That's kind of what happens when you reply to a point. It becomes couched in the context of the point. I admit I narrowed the context to look at home consoles this gen, but I was honest about that from the get-go.
McDonalds sells fish filets but the other two places don't sell anything [edit:fried] fish related.
metalslimer
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I dont think nintendo is worried too much about piracy. Everyone laughed ans said the 3ds would be cracked the day it came out. One year later...
grimshawish
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Buy an SD card or a harddrive. Sorted.
Seriously, in-built storage is just not cost effective for anyone. This way we can all manage our storage how we wish.
In built just adds costs. Not something anyone buying a WiiU wants.
But then it's only fair you add Burger King into the mix....
IMO your argument is invalid, you should look at every console individually. When you do, the Wii is clearly the best selling.
That's because it almost always boils down to that in the end in these Nintendo threads
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Subway has tuna fish
oooh yeah, completely forgot about that.
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It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Holy shit.
Who fries tuna, honestly.
Okay let's include some more context to expand upon the SD vs HD argument that you seem to care about so much to include the Nintendo DS with the Wii. Looks like a lot more people didn't care about visuals.
Oh wow I guess the pirates aren't as good as we were led to believe.
Nintendo: Go ahead punks, make my day.
Pirates end up cracking Wii U day one.
SolarPowered
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What "patterns" do the Wii, Browser and Facebook have in common? I'm not saying that something like the Wii is necessarily a one off that will never happen again, but that it's not something you can harness that easily(as facebook/iOS) and it goes beyond just being cheap technology that people can obtain at a low price.
I suppose that I can see a connection between the Wii and those platforms you mentioned when one looks at the software. I guess you could say that a lot of the software made for those platforms got the point across(angry birds, farmville and a bunch of those F2P games) really well, but that is a pattern(smartly designed software with a purpose in mind) that one could apply to just about anything in gaming(CoD for casual bros, Starcraft for competitive gamers, etc).
Could you point out the pattern? I'm genuinely curious now.
More or less, yeah. The Wii is a real outlier when it comes to the power disparity. Has there every been such a huge difference between the victor and losers in any generation besides this one? It's a far bigger difference than the one between the GC and PS2 or the SNES and Genesis. Power is important, but definitely not the most important factor one should consider when trying to predict who will "win" the generation.
I'm really pissed about the specs, but I have to admit that I'd still buy the Wii U if Smash looks good(not just visually) or if the online network is genuinely improved to the point that the difference between the Nintendo network and the other online services is not a gaping chasm. I know the difference between the big three won't be so large this time graphically. No one is going to pull a $699 4K console on us and everyone will be playing between 720p and 1080p. I know a made a post earlier in this thread saying that the Wii U might be another Wii which is definitely a bit of hyperbole. Nintendo really walks a fine line between the core and casual approach at this point though. I guess it just gets to me. Need to cool my jets.
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Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Well, the 3DS uses standard SD Cards and hasn't been hacked or pirated yet.
burger king also has a fish sandwich
I don't think Subway or Quiznos actually serves fried fish but I could be wrong. I would think for lent they would but not year round.
It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Dayum. Good for Nintendo.
yeah, but they weren't mentioned.
It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Oh wow, didn't know that.
But I guess it's because MS and Sony lost so much money.
Dr.Palutena
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And is burger king...the pc in this analogy?
It is true. The Industry was not nearly as healthy as people believed which explains why so many studios closed etc. People bet on the wrong horse etc
Its not true and that chart is hella mis-leading. Nintendo did little for the overall industry as a whole...
They didn't release specs for the DS or 3DS either, and you can't pull the same card with those since the PSP and Vita weren't even announced at that point, let alone offering a comparable set of specs to interpret.
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Particularly impressive as 3DS is region-locked.
Vita isn't, has proprietary storage and has been hacked anyway.