Most?, the only company that is, is EA.
Rumor: Wii U final specs
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Most?, the only company that is, is EA.
The Abominable Snowman
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Most companies are ignoring it completely (Maybe a bit harsh, I should just say 'Taking a wait and see attitude'). Kudos to Ubi for being one of the only third parties getting it right. Icing on the cake is that Ubi is considered a Western pub.
Really most companies? List the most?
The Abominable Snowman
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Look at the launch window list for third parties. The list of games that started life on the Wii U is extremely short, outside of Ubi.
If you compare it to this past gen's launch window, its a bit disappointing.
Look at the Wii's launch, yeah...We aren't comparing Wii U to PS3/360 launch we are comparing the Wii U with Nintendo's last console, the Wii U has the most third party launch window games than a Nintendo console ever had, Nintendo is rebuilding the relationships, look at the eShop which already looks great, I feel people expect Nintendo to have all the support by day 1.
Nintendo also got Bayonetta 2, and Monster Hunter 3 Ulitmate as exclusive (not counting the 3DS version), as well as others and the best version of Ninja Gaiden 3 and Tekken.
Nintendo has better I. P's than both Sony and MS put together.
Nintendo is constrained by time and resources in terms of being able to make and release software.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
If Wii U sells a ton there is no reason for devs/pubs to ignore the platform like the Wii.
The next generation of game engines are being built with scalability in mind. Mobile gaming can't be ignored and a console with high install base cannot be ignored either.
Nintendo is already sewing up Japan in it's back pocket. American has always been good to Nintendo even with the GCN and certain countries in Europe are very Nintendo centric too.
The Wii situation will not be repeated.
The Abominable Snowman
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I'm referring to original 3rd party developments that started on the Wii U, not games that started life on the 360/PS3 and got a port with a new arena or other cheap feature or funded by Nintendos money.
Non-originated titles are not a good way to ping devloper interest. That's more wait-and-see attitude.
DeuceGamer
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Pretty sure you'll get your wish...at some point.
The PS3/360 got last gen games at launch, the Wii U is getting it because it's impossible for every launch Wii U game to be exclusive.
At least Nintendo is trying to make the Wii U version be the best version to get.
Smurfman256
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but after reviewing the screenshots of ZombiU, I can confirm that the screenshots ARE native 1080p and with anti-aliasing of some sort (plus some strange effect to give the edges of things odd colors to give the impression of a cheap helmet cam).
The Abominable Snowman
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If you cherry pick, then in general yes, but in the first 3-6 months, there were tons of this-gen content from third parties, big names too, that were simply never developed with the prior gen in mind. The PS3's European launch, although late, is the best console launch lineup of third party games ever assembled. Some of them had the PC in mind, however.
Always-honest
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What screens? Gameplay screens?
Lupin the Third
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As optimistic as I am about Wii U (and I am!), I think it unwise to underestimate the ability of development houses and publishers to write off development on a Nintendo console. See: the almost-evenly-matched GameCube.
Smurfman256
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And I think you've learned nothing from about 100,000 posts on Wii U. Completely different situations regarding architectures.
Just like the Wii wasn't ignored right
Always-honest
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Okay thanx. Would be cool. but it's Ubi man....
But the chromatic aberration does help hide the jaggies.i like.
Those look like typical Ubisoft bullshots too me. I'd love to be wrong though.
There is really bad colour fringing on those screen shots. Making me think they were taking offscreen with a not particularly good camera.
The GameCube sold 20 million units, it still got decent third party support.
Smurfman256
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Maybe that's part of the effect? I seem to remember some Ubisoft onscreen gameplay having color fringing (to make it look like a cheap indie film?)
Always-honest
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Yeah must be. It's actually pretty smart imo.
theviolenthero
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Hardware sales don't mean anything.
The Wii sold a TON and even Nintendo gave up on it because damn near every game flopped.
Software sales will dictate future support. Zombi U seems to be getting a lot of pre-orders so that bodes well for future "M" rated games on the Wii U.
XtremeXpider
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Colonel Mustard
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Now this just isn't even true at all?
This is wrong.
Nintendo shifted development resources to 3DS and then WiiU after they had already reap the profits with their core franchises.
I do agree demographics counts more that pure install base though.
Dorfdad
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BS! Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 did graphically.
So where are the games then?
Saint Gregory
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In this thread I haven't learned much about the specs but I have learned that a lot of jokers think Nintendo's dumb enough to blow their load at launch and not save their big guns to go up against Sony and MS's next gen launch.
Those big guns may turn out to be water pistols compared to what's coming to the other next gen systems but Nintendo still wouldn't launch their best stuff before they hit the market.
Those big guns may turn out to be water pistols compared to what's coming to the other next gen systems but Nintendo still wouldn't launch their best stuff before they hit the market.
Why would you even directly respond to something that ignorant?
frankie_baby
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Damn near every game flopped? You are aware the biggest selling games of this gen are all wii games
This may surprise you but it takes time to make games.
Wii support is pretty much dead for years. More than enough time if you ask me.
Zoramon089
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Do you derive joy from blatantly making things up? They stopped because they were done with that gen and focusing on the next
I see what you're trying to do but it makes no sense and you know it doesn't
reelbigtink
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I love when some ignoramus gets a nice dose of reality pie on the very same page.
Saint Gregory
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I've seen that top software chart before and just like last time I thought it was an all Nintendo chart until GTA showed up O_O
Is it up to date though? I would have thought that one of the CoD games would have made the list by now.
Is it up to date though? I would have thought that one of the CoD games would have made the list by now.
plagiarize
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according to Wiki, NSMBW was at 26.26 million worldwide in march of this year, so it must be a year or so old. COD's sales are split by SKU, and it cannibalises itself yearly.
The Gamecube had at least one massive failing that really alienated the console from 3rd parties.
The 8cm 1.5GB optical disk. It was a massive road block for developers wanting to release multi platform games on the Cube. There were so many games that simply could not easily be ported to the Gamecube due to the limited capcity of the 8cm disks, and were too difficult to split across multiple disks. You needed around 5 Gamecube disks to equal 1 Xbox and PS2 disk.
Had Nintendo gone with optical disks near or the same capacity as the PS2 and Xbox, i think it would have faired a lot better.
Even last year Wii got almost as many nintendo releases as the gamecube did on average during it's prime, including a Zelda, Kirby, Rhythm Heaven and two new IPs. And that's while simultaniously launching a new handheld and preparing for a new console
Saint Gregory
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It didn't occur to me that it's a single SKU chart but that explains it. Looking at those numbers I have to wonder if publishers will really let Nintendo have the Wii U pretty much all to themselves again like they dominated the Wii.
Ubi certainly seems to be trying to gain a hold again but they were invested in Wii early on too and that support evolved into mostly Just Dance by the end of the gen.
We don't know for sure, yet (the PS3 and Xbox 360 allow Cinch output in conjunction with HDMI). Nintendo's website suggests the Wii U will allow this:
GCN era Nintendo is very different to modern Nintendo of now. You can barely say it's the same company.
The Nintendo of today definitely listens and takes on board more what others have to say. Indie developers seem to be praising Nintendo's atm. Other than EA everyone else seems cautiously optimistic of the big publishers.
Nintendo is also first to market so they can get in on some of the early action for this next generation rather than being caught in the middle like they were with the Wii. Nintendo is shipping 7m-8m units from launch till March/April.
I think pubs/devs cannot afford to watch from the sidelines again because they have tgese pre-conceived idea's about what sells and what doesn't sell on a Nintendo system. As we saw with the 3DS Nintendo will space out or delay first party game's to allow third parties game's to have a chance.
It's also clear that Nintendo is willing to take a stronger stance on publishing game's.
You obviously didn't read my post because I acknowledged the Wii was ignored. Tis baffling really.
MrNyarlathotep
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Nintendo have historically always spaced out their titles to allow third parties to pick up the slack. Which they haven't for a very long time.
What we have seen that was new with the 3DS was a newfound ruthlessness to utterly fuck up a rivals launch by releasing a barrage of their big guns in a combo, which they've never really done before.
You are right Nintendo should just release everything day fucking one. There is no need for a release schedule. Just spill all on day one.
Ubisoft is approaching things a lot smarter this time to continue support. When they made Red Steel they went with the whole cant have blood etc mentality of its geared for a specific audience type argument on top of it really being a shoddily put together product.
They at least this time aren't holding back on the violence and are offering a better variety of software to garner multiple audiences instead of really pushing one title to all