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[winjer]

It speaks volumes for Russia's diplomatic relations, when the only countries they can name as possible allies, are pariah states that no one cares about. And all of them, in bad situation, both in economic and military terms.
Not even during the worse times of the USSR, did Russia lack so much in allies and diplomatic clout.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

It speaks volumes for Russia's diplomatic relations, when the only countries they can name as possible allies, are pariah states that no one cares about. And all of them, in bad situation, both in economic and military terms.
Not even during the worse times of the USSR, did Russia lack so much in allies and diplomatic clout.

Turns out committing genocide on the premise of (checks notes) denazifying a country with a Jewish President is seen as rather…uncouth.

 

[Lady Jane]

Should I be worried with the lack of news about Ukraine advances?

Who knows. It's difficult to follow this war with how slanted networks are these days. It's a constant "Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass! Is Putin preparing for surrender?" type speech every day. Even when Russia advances on a sector, I feel like the Ukraine positivity gets cranked up to cover for negative news. When I see a rise of Ukraine talking points, I'm not sure what's really going on anymore. I've gotten desensitized from it.

 

[winjer]

Turns out committing genocide on the premise of (checks notes) denazifying a country with a Jewish President is seen as rather…uncouth.

True. But the USSR committed so many more crimes.
Stalin alone, makes Putin look like a choir boy.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

True. But the USSR committed so many more crimes.
Stalin alone, makes Putin look like a choir boy.

Makes me think it’s partly because we are getting basically real time info about what’s happening while many of the USSR atrocities probably took a long time to come to light.

 

[winjer]

Makes me think it’s partly because we are getting basically real time info about what’s happening while many of the USSR atrocities probably took a long time to come to light.

Probably. The USSR was a much more closed system. It was much easier to hide it's crimes.
Only after the fall of the USSR and when Russia started opening some of it's records, did the world learn about many of the crimes committed.

But I think it also helps, that after the end of the USSR, people are not willing to go back to that system.
Not only in former USSR satellite states, but also the rest of Europe.

 

[Ironbunny]

Who knows. It's difficult to follow this war with how slanted networks are these days. It's a constant "Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass! Is Putin preparing for surrender?" type speech every day. Even when Russia advances on a sector, I feel like the Ukraine positivity gets cranked up to cover for negative news. When I see a rise of Ukraine talking points, I'm not sure what's really going on anymore. I've gotten desensitized from it.

We have gone from "ruZZia will take Ukraine in 3 days" to 160 days of 50000 killed Orcs and Ukraine taking back almost all ZZ gains from those 160 days. How do you frame that in positive way for the ZZ?

 

[Lady Jane]

We have gone from "ruZZia will take Ukraine in 3 days" to 160 days of 50000 killed Orcs and Ukraine taking back almost all ZZ gains from those 160 days. How do you frame that in positive way for the ZZ?

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Not sure where I said or implied this.

 

[Ironbunny]

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Not sure where I said or implied this.

ok

 

[MrA]

They can call themselves
The
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Equitable
Righteous
States

 

[FunkMiller]

Should I be worried with the lack of news about Ukraine advances?

No.

OpSec is important.

 

[FunkMiller]

ok

Side note, but that first person POV really feels uncomfortably weird to look at in an era of Call Of Duty games with ever greater visual fidelity.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Side note, but that first person POV really feels uncomfortably weird to look at in an era of Call Of Duty games with ever greater visual fidelity.

I bet those bastards (Ruzzian) had their WW2 equipment and could not have a chance against the others using MW equipment. This was camping on the spawn point XD.

 

[Halo is Back]

I'm starting to believe that Ukraine will win this war in the end as long as the west keeps supplying them with effective weapons and humanitarian aid. That does not mean I'm discrediting the Ukraine military, but every army needs to be supplied properly or else you will lose in the long run.

Here are the main reasons I think a Ukraine victory is most likely.

1. Ukraine has clear motivation to fight. They are very determined and have the most to lose in this conflict.

2. Ukraine is very skilled in conventional and guerilla warfare. They have proven themselves to use western military equipment effectively and intelligently.

3. Russia's incompetence and corruption is holding them back severely. Unless they can get rid of this problem, they will continue to fail strategically.

4. Ukraine has homefront advantage.

5. Ukraine is winning over the common people. Very few nations are allied with Russia post-invasion.

 

[DJ12]

America should send the Ukraine trumps Wall.

You either get out before it's erected or face the consequences.

 

[Kraz]

Should I be worried with the lack of news about Ukraine advances?

Not at all. Besides not releasing info to avoid harming ongoing operations, it can be speculated that Ukraine needs to secure the large territory it has quickly retaken and set new objectives while holding/pushing other fronts, gathering intelligence, schedules for deployment, logistics, etc.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

How far until they can hit the crimean bridge

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm starting to believe that Ukraine will win this war in the end as long as the west keeps supplying them with effective weapons and humanitarian aid. That does not mean I'm discrediting the Ukraine military, but every army needs to be supplied properly or else you will lose in the long run.

Here are the main reasons I think a Ukraine victory is most likely.

1. Ukraine has clear motivation to fight. They are very determined and have the most to lose in this conflict.

2. Ukraine is very skilled in conventional and guerilla warfare. They have proven themselves to use western military equipment effectively and intelligently.

3. Russia's incompetence and corruption is holding them back severely. Unless they can get rid of this problem, they will continue to fail strategically.

4. Ukraine has homefront advantage.

5. Ukraine is winning over the common people. Very few nations are allied with Russia post-invasion.

They were definitely going to win the second NATO realised it could supply them with whatever it liked without the goat fucker retaliating.

 

[FunkMiller]

How far until they can hit the crimean bridge

Once the campaign to liberate the territory invaded in February is complete, Ukraine will turn all attention to Crimea. The first thing to go will be that bridge, I'd assume. A very easy target, if you sit off the coast of Berdyansk with a HIMARS. They'll cut the entire Russian military on Crimea off from the rest of Russia, and force the pricks to go back on a boat in their boxers.

 

[Halo is Back]

They were definitely going to win the second NATO realised it could supply them with whatever it liked without the goat fucker retaliating.

War is a very dynamic thing. It is still possible for Russia to turn it around, but I think that is highly unlikely. History has shown many big swings in the momentum of various wars. However, I think the single greatest factor is the will of the Ukrainian people. You can't buy that for a price.

 

[FunkMiller]

War is a very dynamic thing. It is still possible for Russia to turn it around, but I think that is highly unlikely. History has shown many big swings in the momentum of various wars. However, I think the single greatest factor is the will of the Ukrainian people. You can't buy that for a price.

In what way do you honestly think Russia could turn it around?

And god bless the Ukrainians for their resolve, determination and guts, but this turn in their fortunes would not have happened without western weapons. Most notably the HIMARS and MLRS, which have proved to be extremely decisive.

 

[RJMacready73]

Should I be worried with the lack of news about Ukraine advances?

No, Ukraine are doing it properly, advance advance advance then breathe and let supply and logistics catch up, once they have all the pieces back in place they'll begin again.

 

[Halo is Back]

In what way do you honestly think Russia could turn it around?

And god bless the Ukrainians for their resolve, determination and guts, but this turn in their fortunes would not have happened without western weapons. Most notably the HIMARS and MLRS, which have proved to be extremely decisive.

1. The west ends or severely reduces military support.
2. EU gives into Russia's demands for natural gas in the winter.
3. Russia fully mobilizes. Russia employs competent military commanders.

Even then, it will be a pretty hollow victory like they get to keep Crimea or something. Russia fully toppling the Ukrainian government is highly unlikely IMO.

 

[RJMacready73]

War is a very dynamic thing. It is still possible for Russia to turn it around, but I think that is highly unlikely. History has shown many big swings in the momentum of various wars. However, I think the single greatest factor is the will of the Ukrainian people. You can't buy that for a price.

Turn it around? Lol In what multiverse do you think the Russians could feasibly turn it around?? More and more heavy equipment is pouring into Ukraine, more and more NATO trained Ukrainians are pouring into Ukraine, not to mention they've moved the front line massively allowing them to precisely target command and control even deeper into captured territory.

Air defenses will be moved up and with the absolute shambolic state of the Russian army going up against heavily motivated NATO equiped men and women fighting for their country there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that this doesn't end with the utter defeat of Russia in Ukraine and fingers crossed the eventual toppling of thon Hitler wannabe.

This war is over the only thing prolonging it is the fucking idiocy of those moronic Russians.

As a child of the 70/80's it's crazy to see the mighty USSR so completely embarrassed on the battlefield, to think Europe considered these fucking mongoloids an actual threat, any of the big EU countries could singlehandedly roll over those morons.

 

[FunkMiller]

1. The west ends or severely reduces military support.
2. EU gives into Russia's demands for natural gas in the winter.
3. Russia fully mobilizes. Russia employs competent military commanders.

Even then, it will be a pretty hollow victory like they get to keep Crimea or something. Russia fully toppling the Ukrainian government is highly unlikely IMO.

1. is not going to happen, in any way whatsoever.

2. Also not going to happen.

3. You don’t think if they had competent military commanders they might have used them before running like bitches from an area four times the size of Greater London?

There is no conceivable path to victory for Russia. None. It’s crazy you’re even considering it.

 

[akimbo009]

Who knows. It's difficult to follow this war with how slanted networks are these days. It's a constant "Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass! Is Putin preparing for surrender?" type speech every day. Even when Russia advances on a sector, I feel like the Ukraine positivity gets cranked up to cover for negative news. When I see a rise of Ukraine talking points, I'm not sure what's really going on anymore. I've gotten desensitized from it.

Huh? You're back, and still doing a whataboutism argument.

I'd suggest following along properly to understand what's going on instead of making up narratives in your head.

PS - Russia is losing, badly.

 

[MisterFalcon]

Any day now the competent part of the Russian army will be unleashed. Just wait, it's going to be glorious, Kyiv will fall in 48 hours.

 

[Halo is Back]

1. is not going to happen, in any way whatsoever.

2. Also not going to happen.

3. You don’t think if they had competent military commanders they might have used them before running like bitches from an area four times the size of Greater London?

There is no conceivable path to victory for Russia. None. It’s crazy you’re even considering it.

Why are you acting like I support Russia? Never let your guard down and never underestimate your enemy. I am just making speculations. You asked me a question and I answered it. Don't be a dick.

 

[FunkMiller]

Why are you acting like I support Russia? Never keep your guard down and never underestimate your enemy. I am just making speculations.

Nothing wrong with speculations, but the ones you're coming up with aren't possible. You can speculate about the size of Russia's defeat at this point, but any speculation about Putin turning things around, or Russia gaining any kind of victory are pointless. You're not really grasping the situation as it stands, if you're doing that.

 

[Halo is Back]

Nothing wrong with speculations, but the ones you're coming up with aren't possible. You can speculate about the size of Russia's defeat at this point, but any speculation about Putin turning things around, or Russia gaining any kind of victory are pointless. You're not really grasping the situation as it stands, if you're doing that.

How can you say that when my initial post stated that a Ukrainian victory is most likely?

 

[FunkMiller]

How can you say that when my initial post stated that a Ukrainian victory is most likely?

It's not most likely. It's definite.

 

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Should I be worried with the lack of news about Ukraine advances?

While opsec hides alot, we can make some deductions based on russian actions.

Hitting the damn near krivvy rih was done to flood the river and ground ukraine need to cross to to take the units north of kherson. This reeks of desperation and shows they have zero hope or intention of a russian counter attack to push back lines to before ukraines recent advance. They know they are fucked

 

[Halo is Back]

While opsec hides alot, we can make some deductions based on russian actions.

Hitting the damn near krivvy rih was done to flood the river and ground ukraine need to cross to to take the units north of kherson. This reeks of desperation and shows they have zero hope or intention of a russian counter attack to push back lines to before ukraines recent advance. They know they are fucked

They are most likely planning more counter-offensives. Staying silent means they are planning and don't want Russia to find out. As soon as I heard about the "big offensive" in the south, I knew it was mostly a distraction for another offensive. Ukraine is not dumb, they wouldn't just disclose that kind of information to the press.

 

[Liljagare]

Don't be a dick.

Don't be another ruSSian chill, dickhead.

 

[Halo is Back]

Don't be another ruSSian chill, dickhead.

Go through my entire post history in this thread and then come back to me.

 

[Liljagare]

Who knows. It's difficult to follow this war with how slanted networks are these days. It's a constant "Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass! Is Putin preparing for surrender?" type speech every day. Even when Russia advances on a sector, I feel like the Ukraine positivity gets cranked up to cover for negative news. When I see a rise of Ukraine talking points, I'm not sure what's really going on anymore. I've gotten desensitized from it.

What sectors are the RuSSians currently advancing in?

 

[Lady Jane]

Huh? You're back, and still doing a whataboutism argument.

I'd suggest following along properly to understand what's going on instead of making up narratives in your head.

PS - Russia is losing, badly.

Admitting that news networks aren't entirely honest doesn't mean I support Russia? It's not whataboutism to say that. It's a realistic view. I didn't respond to you last time because you implied that I support Russia just because I wish networks put more effort in their pieces. I'm not entertaining that ridiculous take. You have a very "support your media or you're the enemy" way of handling this conversation.

I was saying that it's hard to follow this war if you rely on large networks where they use buzzwords to pull you for a click and when you read the article, you learn nothing because it's content is in the middle of paragraphs of fluff. It was difficult to follow Georgia's response and actions when the war started because it wasn't all great and they just...didn't cover it. I had to do research to find out that Georgia wasn't sending the aid Ukraine needed. Of course I was disappointed with that but I want to learn everything and I don't think it should be this difficult. I even had to sometimes translate pages.

My family is Polish and my extended family lives in Belarus and Georgia. I flew into Kyiv for Christmas in 2021 and stayed with a family friend for a couple days, months before Russia invaded Ukraine. I've been following these events closely my entire life. Following it after the war started though has made the coverage a nightmare to dig through. The details aren't there anymore and key players aren't mentioned while major events have been misreported. The events have been Westernized if that makes sense.

I don't like to discuss the war with Americans because it's frustrating to say the least. It has nothing to do with their support, it's lack of basic geographic and political knowledge of the territories. Imagine talking to someone from Minsk and they claim they've been following the US elections and they get confused when you mention Iowa, Bernie Sanders, or electoral collage. "Oh I've never heard of that. I do know who Trump is though!" You would just smile and nod because you don't have the energy to explain all that. That's what it's like reading this reporting and conversations since this war started. It's like the people who were covering it for years have been pushed aside for more "TV friendly" reporters who couldn't spot or name any political figure that isn't Putin or Zelenskyy. And discussions see this war like a San Andreas gang territory map. I want accurate reporting and I shouldn't have to rely on family members group chat or VPN's to Polish coverage to get it.

And if you don't wish for me to engage in this thread often or if ever, you don't have to worry about that. I'm only giving this response to defend myself since you're keen on painting this negative image on me for not liking Western media's coverage of this war.

 

[Gp1]

Ukraine is probably consolidating their gains in the North, and the war in Kherson was under opsec since the start of the offensive. But Russian supply lines in the southern front, even with the troops redeployment, still is under pressure.

Nothing to worry about.



Russia can't sustain itself selling cheap oil to China and India.

 

[Liljagare]

Go through my entire post history in this thread and then come back to me.

Nah. That was enough for me.

Admitting that news networks aren't entirely honest doesn't mean I support Russia? It's not whataboutism to say that. It's a realistic view. I didn't respond to you last time because you implied that I support Russia just because I wish networks put more effort in their pieces. I'm not entertaining that ridiculous take. You have a very "support your media or you're the enemy" way of handling this conversation.

I was saying that it's hard to follow this war if you rely on large networks where they use buzzwords to pull you for a click and when you read the article, you learn nothing because it's content is in the middle of paragraphs of fluff. It was difficult to follow Georgia's response and actions when the war started because it wasn't all great and they just...didn't cover it. I had to do research to find out that Georgia wasn't sending the aid Ukraine needed. Of course I was disappointed with that but I want to learn everything and I don't think it should be this difficult. I even had to sometimes translate pages.

My family is Polish and my extended family lives in Belarus and Georgia. I flew into Kyiv for Christmas in 2021 and stayed with a family friend, months before Russia invaded Ukraine. I've been following these events closely my entire life. Following it after the war started though has made the coverage a nightmare to dig through. The details aren't there anymore and key players aren't mentioned while major events have been misreported. The events have been Westernized if that makes sense.

I don't like to discuss the war with Americans because it's frustrating to say the least. It has nothing to do with their support, it's lack of basic geographic and political knowledge of the territories. Imagine talking to someone from Minsk and they claim they've been following the US elections and they get confused when you mention Iowa, Bernie Sanders, or electoral collage. "Oh I've never heard of that. I do know who Trump is though!" You would just smile and nod because you don't have the energy to explain all that. That's what it's like reading this reporting and conversations since this war started. It's like the people who were covering it for years have been pushed aside for more "TV friendly" reporters who couldn't spot or name any political figure that isn't Putin or Zelenskyy. And discussions see this war like a San Andreas territory map. I want accurate reporting and I shouldn't have to rely on family members group chat or VPN's to Polish coverage to get it. And if you don't wish for me to engage in this thread often, you don't have to worry about that. I'm only giving this response to defend myself since you're keen on painting this negative image on me for not liking Western media's coverage of this war.

Holy crap, what even is this? How hard is it to follow a war, where one side kills children, the other avoids it? How hard is it to follow a war, where one side insist on attacking civilian targets, the other side doesn't?

Name ONE civilian target that Ukraine has attacked in RuSSia, please.

 

[Halo is Back]

Nah. That was enough for me.

Wow, admitting ignorance and being proud of it. Why don't you go back to the post where I cheered on Ukraine during thier counter-offensive on page 366? In this page, I gave massive props to the Ukrainian military's will and bravery to fight. That was my initial post. Praising the people of Ukraine.

 

[Facism]

Wow, admitting ignorance and being proud of it. Why don't you go back to the post where I cheered on Ukraine during thier counter-offensive on page 366? In this thread, I gave massive props to the Ukrainian military's will and bravery to fight. That was my initial post. Praising the people of Ukraine.

yeh dude should go back to purple if he wants to get mad at other people having an opinion.

 

[Lady Jane]

Nah. That was enough for me.


Holy crap, what even is this? How hard is it to follow a war, where one side kills children, the other avoids it? How hard is it to follow a war, where one side insist on attacking civilian targets, the other side doesn't?

Name ONE civilian target that Ukraine has attacked in RuSSia, please.

Where on Earth are you getting that I support Russia?

Essentially what I'm learning is:

Support Ukraine = "Ukraine supporter "
Support Ukraine + Not liking Western media's coverage of the war = "Russia supporter"

I don't know what to say to you. I hope one day that you visit Belarus, Ukraine, Molodov, Lativa, and especially the beautiful Poland. You'll gain a lot of perspective and stop classifying people to one side or the other because there's not 100% with your country or it's media. Most of my family who support Ukraine wishes the US would just disappear in the wind. That doesn't mean they're evil or support Russia, it just means that not all their interest aligns with yours and that's okay. Though to jump final conclusions like you're doing with your leading questions does nothing but drive down the conversation and for what, because I question Western media's coverage of the war? How absurd.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the advances come in spurts, you can’t get too far over your skis or you risk losing what you have.

But my military expertise is limited to owning Age of Empires and StarCraft

 

[M1chl]

 

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[NoLootBoxDev]

This is why I feel no pity for them. They could revolt, go back, and surrender.

 

[Lord Panda]

Animals.

Those Russian PoWs will have some questions to answer.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Russian hypersonic missile accidentally strikes Russia​

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