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[FunkMiller]

Elon doubling down huh

A lot of people are absolutely torpedoing their reputations over this war. Musk appears to be the highest profile among them. He either didn't think before posting that electoral map, or he does actually think Russia may have a point. I very much hope it's the first option, but neither paints him in anything other than an extremely bad light.

 

[akimbo009]

A lot of people are absolutely torpedoing their reputations over this war. Musk appears to be the highest profile among them. He either didn't think before posting that electoral map, or he does actually think Russia may have a point. I very much hope it's the first option, but neither paints him in anything other than an extremely bad light.

Elon has been saying stupid stupid shit for years now. This really isn't a new record for him - it's just more clear cut. He's not playing 4D chess, he really believes in hyper-captialism in the same vein of oligarchs and unfettered wealth generation via the CCP. He's constantly praised them... And I don't think he having a lol - he really believes this shit and doesn't see Putin as a bad guy (probably just misunderstood... His follow up to this tweet is just as bad playing the "well ... We can't really know, can we?" Card.

It's embarrassing - but at least he's being clever by selling his Tesla shares for a dead man walking company like Twitter. He's all aces lately.

 

[JayK47]

Must be nice to have a cozy nuclear bunker. I don't have one so I would love for this conflict to end before nuclear war.

 

[akimbo009]

Must be nice to have a cozy nuclear bunker. I don't have one so I would love for this conflict to end before nuclear war.

There is no nuclear war.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[FunkMiller]

Must be nice to have a cozy nuclear bunker. I don't have one so I would love for this conflict to end before nuclear war.

Putin threatened nuclear war if anyone interfered with his invasion of Ukraine.

Since then we've armed Ukraine to the teeth and blown up a Russian airbase in Russian territory.

 

[Neff]

The latest from PutinTV, courtesy of Julia Davis:

Man this is better than porn

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[nocsi]

Elon baby wtf is you doing

Elon is clearly caught up in the global energy war. Shouldn't have built a gigafactory in Germany lol

 

[GladiusFrog]

Must be nice to have a cozy nuclear bunker. I don't have one so I would love for this conflict to end before nuclear war.

Please remove your Duke NUKEM avatar.

/jking

 

[Ironbunny]

 

[InverseAgonist]

Everybody with a minimun education knows that zelensky convinced eatern Ukraine to vote for him on the promise for peace and the respect of minsk.
He just fucked them less than a month after being elected.

Thanks for saying this.

I like Ian Bremer a lot and respect him and his accomplishments. The J-Curve concept is nice and I've actually cited it in this thread as a matter of fact.

That said, the Ukrainian system is multiround and there was much collapse around Zelensky as the least worst candidate available in the second round. If you look at the first round, the Russian-backed candidate won in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts. But, was eliminated and in the second round it was Zelensky verse Poroshenko (who was the Lviv winner), so it was a west verse west run which the more Russian sympathizing voters collapsed around Zelensky. Also, the 2019 election wasn't a traditional election. It was more like the 2016 Presidential election in the US. See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-of-ukraines-presidential-election-exit-poll

Elon's post, just like Bremmer's are of snapshots in time that are very high-dimensional and when you reduce them the primary variables for each election are different, 2012 is likely a better indicator of Russian verse Ukrainian nationalistic support. 2019 sliced the electorate in ways that are different, similar to how Trump campaigned and did.

 

[InverseAgonist]

It's embarrassing - but at least he's being clever by selling his Tesla shares for a dead man walking company like Twitter. He's all aces lately.

Unlike you, Elon actually has skin in this game -- his company has provided internet connectivity to Ukraine pro bono, at not only great monetary cost to himself, but security concerns to himself. The Russians have been known to personally retaliate, they could launch an ASAT attack against Starlink which would be at huge cost to the satellites lost and the debris that's caused to his constellation in LEO. All because he's a Putin puppet, right?

What have you done to support his war but post on a videogame forum war porn from the safety of your parents basement? Honest question. I mean, I've been labeled everything from a Putin puppet to Kremlin propaganda repeater and worse, yet I was at a Ukraine fundraiser last Sunday and have another on the 15th. How this logically checks out, I don't get, but I'm sure you're doing more than all of us!

I'm amazed at how deluded and, frankly, dumb people can be. Like the amount of logical thinking going on is hovering around zero.

PS. Last I checked, SpaceX has launched more tonnage to orbit this year than the rest of the world combined. That's aces to me. What have you done?

 

[FunkMiller]

His company has provided internet connectivity to Ukraine pro bono, at not only monetary cost to himself, but security concerns to himself.

What have you done to support his war but post on a videogame forum war porn from the safety of your parents basement? Honest question.

PS. Last I checked, SpaceX has launched more tonnage to orbit this year than the rest of the world combined. That's aces to me. What have you done?

The US taxpayer did contribute some cash to it. https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-spacex-ukraine-starlink-government-funding

Why the hard-on for Musk? He's made some great business decisions, and Space X is laudable... but he's also someone who says and does some very stupid things. The hero worship is more than a little out of place. Shit, Bezos is probably a better billionaire to hero worship if you must do something that strange, given he knows when to keep his mouth shut about stuff he doesn't understand.

 

[akimbo009]

Thanks for saying this.

I like Ian Bremer a lot and respect him and his accomplishments. The J-Curve concept is nice and I've actually cited it in this thread as a matter of fact.

That said, the Ukrainian system is multiround and there was much collapse around Zelensky as the least worst candidate available in the second round. If you look at the first round, the Russian-backed candidate won in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts. But, was eliminated and in the second round it was Zelensky verse Poroshenko (who was the Lviv winner), so it was a west verse west run which the more Russian sympathizing voters collapsed around Zelensky. Also, the 2019 election wasn't a traditional election. It was more like the 2016 Presidential election in the US. See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-of-ukraines-presidential-election-exit-poll

Elon's post, just like Bremmer's are of snapshots in time that are very high-dimensional and when you reduce them the primary variables for each election are different, 2012 is likely a better indicator of Russian verse Ukrainian nationalistic support. 2019 sliced the electorate in ways that are different, similar to how Trump campaigned and did.

Are you comparing Zelensky to Trump? Irrespective, just like Musk's comments, are not relevant as the whole country is now absolutely aligned with kicking Russia in the dick and have rallyed around Zelensky.

His company has provided internet connectivity to Ukraine pro bono, at not only monetary cost to himself, but security concerns to himself.

What have you done to support his war but post on a videogame forum war porn from the safety of your parents basement? Honest question.

PS. Last I checked, SpaceX has launched more tonnage to orbit this year than the rest of the world combined. That's aces to me. What have you done?

Yeah, Musk truly is on the front lines of personal risk....

And you really are so concerned for me - and my lifestyle, what I've done in life, etc. - it's a bit weird. In your world can one not criticize someone because of what and how much they have or haven't done? You're an Elon cuck obviously, but don't need to project that shit on to me.

Edit: holy shit your edit..... I can't even.

 

[InverseAgonist]

Are you comparing Zelensky to Trump?

You don't really read links people post huh? Let's be frank, you're not well read and should really look to improve on this. Take the encouragement and better yourself and your thinking.

From the Guardian article I linked: "He is best known for his role in the long-running Ukrainian television series Servant of the People, where he played a teacher unexpectedly elected to the presidency after an angry rant about corruption is posted online by his students.​

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During the campaign, he offered little information about his policies or plans for the presidency, relying on viral videos, standup comedy gigs and jokes in place of traditional campaigning.​

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His campaign blurred the lines between the real-life Zelenskiy and his on-screen persona. Like the fictional president of his television series, Zelenskiy has promised to clean up politics and end the stranglehold of the oligarchy over Ukraine, but he has offered little by way of specifics."​

Again, this wasn't a traditional campaign as was 2012. It was more akin to the US 2016 election.

Yeah, Musk truly is on the front lines of personal risk....

And you really are so concerned for me - and my lifestyle, what I've done in life, etc. - it's a bit weird. In your world can one not criticize someone because of what and how much they have or haven't done? You're an Elon cuck obviously, but don't need to project that shit on to me.

Edit: holy shit your edit..... I can't even.

(1) We all know what the Russian regime does to it's opponents, regardless of their prominence. See Litvinenko, Kasparov basically fled, etc, etc. Would I have done what Elon did without pause. An ASAT attack on SpaceX would be devastating.​

(2) I'm sure you're replying to the fact that for you it's inconceivable and the the cognitive dissodence that you continually display which makes it impossible to not label people who aren't in favor of continued war and Ukrainian ultimate victory at all cost, given the risks, as Putin sympathizers. That we could still be benefactors to Ukraine and the devastation that's happened there is just beyond your ability to comprehend.​

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Meanwhile, what have you done? You're surely not fighting in the Ukraine. You have no skin in the game. You're not producing working papers on, you know, actual strategy. But you have a big virtual mouth.

 

[akimbo009]

You don't really read links people post huh? Let's be frank, you're not well read and should really look to improve on this. Take the encouragement and better yourself and your thinking.

From the Guardian article I linked: "He is best known for his role in the long-running Ukrainian television series Servant of the People, where he played a teacher unexpectedly elected to the presidency after an angry rant about corruption is posted online by his students.​

​

During the campaign, he offered little information about his policies or plans for the presidency, relying on viral videos, standup comedy gigs and jokes in place of traditional campaigning.​

​

His campaign blurred the lines between the real-life Zelenskiy and his on-screen persona. Like the fictional president of his television series, Zelenskiy has promised to clean up politics and end the stranglehold of the oligarchy over Ukraine, but he has offered little by way of specifics."​

Again, this wasn't a traditional campaign as was 2012. It was more akin to the US 2016 election.

(1) We all know what the Russian regime does to it's opponents, regardless of their prominence. See Litvinenko, Kasparov basically fled, etc, etc. Would I have done what Elon did without pause. An ASAT attack on SpaceX would be devastating.​

(2) I'm sure you're replying to the fact that for you it's inconceivable and the the cognitive dissodence that you continually display which makes it impossible to not label people who aren't in favor of continued war and Ukrainian ultimate victory at all cost, given the risks, as Putin sympathizers. That we could still be benefactors to Ukraine and the devastation that's happened there is just beyond your ability to comprehend.​

​

Meanwhile, what have you done? You're surely not fighting in the Ukraine. You have no skin in the game. You're not producing working papers on, you know, actual strategy. But you have a big virtual mouth.

You are impressive in your self-importance, I'll give you that.

Meanwhile..... Ukraine defying the wargame tables....

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Are you comparing Zelensky to Trump? Irrespective, just like Musk's comments, are not relevant as the whole country is now absolutely aligned with kicking Russia in the dick and have rallyed around Zelensky.



Yeah, Musk truly is on the front lines of personal risk....

And you really are so concerned for me - and my lifestyle, what I've done in life, etc. - it's a bit weird. In your world can one not criticize someone because of what and how much they have or haven't done? You're an Elon cuck obviously, but don't need to project that shit on to me.

Edit: holy shit your edit..... I can't even.

He's the definition of an internet tough guy, reflecting all his shortcomings on to others. "Mom's basement"... yep.

Going to a ukraine rally probably taking polls to see if Ukraine should give up their land.

 

[Bragr]

Elon has been saying stupid stupid shit for years now. This really isn't a new record for him - it's just more clear cut. He's not playing 4D chess, he really believes in hyper-captialism in the same vein of oligarchs and unfettered wealth generation via the CCP. He's constantly praised them... And I don't think he having a lol - he really believes this shit and doesn't see Putin as a bad guy (probably just misunderstood... His follow up to this tweet is just as bad playing the "well ... We can't really know, can we?" Card.

It's embarrassing - but at least he's being clever by selling his Tesla shares for a dead man walking company like Twitter. He's all aces lately.

Ah shit, random Neogaf member 29381 is pwning Elon Musk with his in-depth knowledge of hyper-capitalism.

 

[akimbo009]

Ah shit, random Neogaf member 29381 is pwning Elon Musk with his in-depth knowledge of hyper-capitalism.

You know you don't have to rally for Elon, right?

 

[InverseAgonist]

He's the definition of an internet tough guy, reflecting all his shortcomings on to others. "Mom's basement"... yep.

Going to a ukraine rally probably taking polls to see if Ukraine should give up their land.

I'm a "tough guy" who's saying let's turn this conflict off ASAP after Ukraine has recaptured to the point of the conflict start-lines in 2022 and then negotiate for Crimea and reparations because the level of escalation is becoming scary.

Yeah, I'm the one flexing and posting images of death and killing, on either side (that's sarcasm, I'm not). I'm the one pushing for more death and destruction in Ukraine by wanting international negotiation. I'm the one concerned about Europe and hunger in the 3rd world. I'm the one who's a "tough guy" because I bring up end-game scenarios that are realistic and achievable and in line with those proposed by Henry Kissinger, Fareed Zakaria and Elon Musk.

Listen to what you're saying!

EDIT: And I go to fundraisers because the Ukrainian people are wonderful and need our support and anything we can do for them. Be it organizing food and medical supplies, which a friend of mine that's Ukrainian has done, or direct financial support. War is horrible and the people suffer.

 

[Esca]

This thread use to be cool man

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm a "tough guy" who's saying let's turn this conflict off ASAP after Ukraine has recaptured to the point of the conflict start-lines in 2022 and then negotiate for Crimea and reparations because the level of escalation is becoming scary.

What exactly is scaring you so much about the current state of play? Every single piece of evidence regarding Putin's mobilisation suggests they are untrained, ill-equipped and poorly motivated. They've also already run from combat in Kherson. Ukraine continues to make massive strides.

Is it the rhetoric from the Kremlin? Is that what's terrifying you so much?

 

[Bragr]

You know you don't have to rally for Elon, right?

You know as much about what is going on as a fish knows about flying, just like everyone in here. A person is supposed to understand their limits, speak about what they know, and not be a know-it-all to stroke their high opinions of themselves. All we can do here is talk about the news we see. The internet is already full of know-it-alls, don't be one of them.

Most super-rich lives in a bubble and you never see them. Having people like Elon visible and willing to get flamed for their opinions is refreshing.

 

[akimbo009]

I'm a "tough guy" who's saying let's turn this conflict off ASAP after Ukraine has recaptured to the point of the conflict start-lines in 2022 and then negotiate for Crimea and reparations because the level of escalation is becoming scary.

Yeah, I'm the one flexing and posting images of death and killing, on either side (that's sarcasm, I'm not). I'm the one pushing for more death and destruction in Ukraine by wanting international negotiation. I'm the one concerned about Europe and hunger in the 3rd world. I'm the one who's a "tough guy" because I bring up end-game scenarios that are realistic and achievable and in line with those proposed by Henry Kissinger, Fareed Zakaria and Elon Musk.

Listen to what you're saying!

But Ukraine has already defined their success criteria... Back to before 2014 borders. You don't get to tell them how much they sacrifice to restore their country - nor does Musk, or anyone. They do.

So you can disagree with that, but it is just reality and they are prosecuting it as they see fit - and the west nor the world is willing to withdraw support for their aims as they've defined them.

In effect, you're asking them to give up while winning against an opponent who is untrustworthy and unreliable negotiating partner.

 

[chromhound]

What are the chances Ukraine take back Crimea ?

 

[FunkMiller]

What are the chances Ukraine take back Crimea ?

Very high. Clearly Zelensky wants it, and clearly NATO does too.

 

[akimbo009]

You know as much about what is going on as a fish knows about flying, just like everyone in here. A person is supposed to understand their limits, speak about what they know, and not be a know-it-all to stroke their high opinions of themselves. All we can do here is talk about the news we see. The internet is already full of know-it-alls, don't be one of them.

Most super-rich lives in a bubble and you never see them. Having people like Elon visible and willing to get flamed for their opinions is refreshing.

Ok, you still don't need to defend him from my "flaming" or "opinion". Dude is supporting the Russian position, so I guess that's refreshing to you but not me, I find it's pretty horrific.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

This thread use to be cool man

Yep: war news, memes, solidarity with Ukraine, dunking on the invaders… all in all solid fun. But after the Kherson victory and that dumb Musk tweet it went to hell. There was also something political related involved, but the ban is a ban for a reason.

 

[funkygunther]

This thread use to be cool man

I promise I'll post more

 

[WhatDidHeSay?]

This thread use to be cool man

Gone to shit hasn't it?

Turned into a real hate-basement. All gone a bit PvP

 

[akimbo009]

Gone to shit hasn't it?

Turned into a real hate-basement. All gone a bit PvP

If Russia gonna LARP a war, seems appropriate we PvP

 

[Artoris]

The US taxpayer did contribute some cash to it. https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-spacex-ukraine-starlink-government-funding

Why the hard-on for Musk? He's made some great business decisions, and Space X is laudable... but he's also someone who says and does some very stupid things. The hero worship is more than a little out of place. Shit, Bezos is probably a better billionaire to hero worship if you must do something that strange, given he knows when to keep his mouth shut about stuff he doesn't understand.

"Bezos is probably a better billionaire to hero worship"

No way

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Anyways news from the war:

Kherson: it seems that either the new defense line is very soft or that it is closer to Kherson city than we think. Ukrainians are advancing slowly (orcs are fond of mining and trapping) so it’ll be some time until the front is stabilized.

The North: not much is in the open. We do know there’s fighting but we do not know if the Ukrainians are actively attempting to breach or they’re poking and probing to find weakspots.

The rest: not much to say. Russians claim there’s a large force of Ukrainians amassed at zaporihzhia, at Bahkmut and who knows where. They’ve been singing the same tune for some time.

And that’s it for today!

 

[JayK47]

A lot of countries, including the US, are stockpiling radiation sickness drugs. Maybe this is just more money for big pharma or they really are concerned.

 

[ItsGreat]

In ruZZia the all new Lada Granta

New for 2022 specs. Special 8-valve engine model instead of 16-valve. Special no airbags model. Also this years special operation model will not include power steering. The great soviet ruZZia is back gents. (Yup. This is real)

They talk about the cut backs the car manufacturers are making in Russia due to the sanctions on them importing chips and other modern tech on the War Nerd Podcast.

They also talk about how factories are retooling back to two decade old spec.

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[ItsGreat]

The Russian Telegram channels have lit up with talk about Zelensky asking NATO for a preemptive nuclear strike. Is this old news or something that happened today?

It worries me that it just blew up on the Telegram. Russian propaganda to get their population onside for a tactical strike.

Thoughts?

 

[Bragr]

Ok, you still don't need to defend him from my "flaming" or "opinion". Dude is supporting the Russian position, so I guess that's refreshing to you but not me, I find it's pretty horrific.

Where did he do that?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

The Russian Telegram channels have lit up with talk about Zelensky asking NATO for a preemptive nuclear strike. Is this old news or something that happened today?

It worries me that it just blew up on the Telegram. Russian propaganda to get their population onside for a tactical strike.

Thoughts?

As as I found googling, that Zelenskyy quote is by Russian news agency, he doesn’t call for nuclear strikes and has a bunch of ellipses (means it’s not the actual quote, but parts of it have been removed).

Be nice if there was another original source to corroborate.

I might be wrong and I am not saying the quoted is fabricated, just saying that well, it’s Russia news agency talking about Zelenskyy…

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Here is the closest I found for the quote:

“What should NATO do? Eliminate the possibility of Russia using nuclear weapons. <...> Preemptive strikes, so that they know what will happen to them if they apply. And not vice versa – wait for Russia’s nuclear strikes, then to say: “Oh, you are so, well, keep it from us!” Zelensky is sure (quote from RIA News).

 

[winjer]

The Russian Telegram channels have lit up with talk about Zelensky asking NATO for a preemptive nuclear strike. Is this old news or something that happened today?

It worries me that it just blew up on the Telegram. Russian propaganda to get their population onside for a tactical strike.

Thoughts?

That sounds like a false flag attack.
Russia spreads the rumor that Ukraine and Nato are going to use nukes, so Russia can have a justification to use them in their war.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Thats not calling for a nuclear strike at all. The plan that I read was if russia uses a nuke on Ukraine, NATO or Usa alone would destroy all russian units in ukraine, not send a nuke Russia's way.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Zelensky asking for a preemptive nuclear strike is about as probable as NATO delivering one, meaning 0%

Whether there’s some purpose to that chatter or if it’s just a bunch of hens clucking is anyone’s guess, but c’mon

 

[Punished Miku]

That sounds like a false flag attack.
Russia spreads the rumor that Ukraine and Nato are going to use nukes, so Russia can have a justification to use them in their war.

Earth, it's been an honor.

 

[akimbo009]

Where did he do that?

It's the whole reason he's catching blowback here.... Comon - just go back a page or two (or go into the Elon musk thread).

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

That is a cute way to think, I guess

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[akimbo009]

Nice guess... Unfortunately the orc guessed wrong.. (shot dead orc, etc etc, may be troubling to some)



Adding a Nitter link, some folks prefer that.

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This Tweet is from a suspended account.

nitter.net

 

[Mattdaddy]

Nice guess... Unfortunately the orc guessed wrong.. (shot dead orc, etc etc, may be troubling to some)



Adding a Nitter link, some folks prefer that.

(@)

This Tweet is from a suspended account.

nitter.net

Wow, what a surreal world we live in I can just sit here at my desk eating leftover lasagna and casually watch a real person get absolutely blown away in combat happening on the other side of the globe.

Edit - I don't mean that as sympathy for Russia or anything. It's just odd lol. I can take a break from work and go "click, click, click lets watch some fuckers die in almost real time"