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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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akimbo009

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There is no difference between armed and unarmed medics.
Medics are allowed to be armed for self-defense with a pistol or MP.
Orderlies can even wear a rifle.
You also can't intentionally target wounded.

All those 3 are protected by the Geneva convention.
So, you can't just drop a shrapnel bomb on the whole group, you can shoot at the front- and rearguard.


And yes, war crime is a little hyperbole from me, because "this war is the one with the worst war crimes ever in history" according to some online hot takes.

Good, they happened to drop it behind the rear guard. It just so happens that physics is a Ukrainian fan.
 
Well according to the Geneva convention it is illegal to fire on anyone wearing Medical Insignia. As far as I can see from that drone footage none of those heavily armed soldiers were wearing any identifying medical insignia.

As for the wounded soldier technically he was not the target infact I would say the grenade was specifically targetted to avoid hitting the wounded soldier and those that were carrying him just the drone operator unestimated the blast damage. Look this is war there are grey areas like this all the time it is not a clear cut "hmm that's bad mmkay". There was one wounded soldier and 10 - 11 heavily armed soldiers that is most definitely a valid target. Next up we will be seeing the Russians strapping wounded soldiers to tanks so the Ukrainians can't target the tank cos that would be a breach of the Geneva convention.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Well according to the Geneva convention it is illegal to fire on anyone wearing Medical Insignia. As far as I can see from that drone footage none of those heavily armed soldiers were wearing any identifying medical insignia.

As for the wounded soldier technically he was not the target infact I would say the grenade was specifically targetted to avoid hitting the wounded soldier and those that were carrying him just the drone operator unestimated the blast damage. Look this is war there are grey areas like this all the time it is not a clear cut "hmm that's bad mmkay". There was one wounded soldier and 10 - 11 heavily armed soldiers that is most definitely a valid target. Next up we will be seeing the Russians strapping wounded soldiers to tanks so the Ukrainians can't target the tank cos that would be a breach of the Geneva convention.
What would happen if one side decided to make medical logos on all their soldiers?
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
What? Do you think that means there are no effects.
There are bad effects from radiation months and years after. There are islands where France, UK and USA tested nukes, in the 60s, that today are still not safe to live in.

And of course, the short term effects, during the first couple of months are terrifying.

That's because in those testing zones they planted very large bombs in the ground prior to detonation, so it radiated particles in a compounded manner.

In contrast, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima exploded over 600m in the air, and was smaller and less powerful. Lingering radiation was negligible, as Geiger counters proved and history shows no signs of radiation poisoning in the people that continued to live there.

But keeping on point: the kinds of tactical nukes Putin is threatening use of would actually spread radiation in widespread ways as you suggest. Though they are tiny compared to the kinds of nuclear weapons we see in media, they're designed to detonate when striking the ground / other surface. Their radiating, poisoning effects are part of their point.

Thankfully, last I heard from the supposed intelligence experts across social media, there are no signs of Russia mobilizing any nuclear weapons - large scale nor tactical. And I hope it's true, of course.
 
There is no difference between armed and unarmed medics.
Medics are allowed to be armed for self-defense with a pistol or MP.
Orderlies can even wear a rifle.
You also can't intentionally target wounded.

All those 3 are protected by the Geneva convention.
So, you can't just drop a shrapnel bomb on the whole group, you can shoot at the front- and rearguard.


And yes, war crime is a little hyperbole from me, because "this war is the one with the worst war crimes ever in history" according to some online hot takes.
Where do you see any sign of a medic like a red cross or something? Normally ruzzians abandon their wounded, so I guess you could think theyre medics.
 

Ironbunny

Member
some warcrimes on video

With all the war crimes that are happening in Ukraine this is the hill you build your base on? ruZZia literaly targeting civilians, civilian trains, churches, hospitals, food infrastructure, energy infrastructure, torturing civilians and military, raping childs to elderly, cutting peoples genitalia off, people buried alive. But god damn they dropped a grenade on ruZZian soldiers who are in a country they should not be in.
 

Kerotan

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Ok so now Putin's bridge has been half blown up on his birthday of all day's and Russia's reaction has been damage control nothing to see here. Not to mention a week after he claimed new Russian land which immediately got "invaded".

Time to stop fearing nuke's. There's only 3 possible escalations from Ukraine in this order

1. Recapture LPR or DPR territory
2. Recapture Crimea
3. Invade and try hold parts of Russia

Only #3 justifies Russia using nuke's and that won't happen. Let's be honest he won't use nukes for #2 either. #3 there's a tiny chance but I seriously doubt it.

Time for Ukraine to officially get better weapon's. Whether that's defense systems, 300km range HIMARS or American fighter jets let's have it.

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My option on Geneva conventions and war crimes. They should only apply to the invading force which an invasion in itself should be a war crime. Defend yourself by any means possible.
 
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Ironbunny

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Ok so now Putin's bridge has been half blown up on his birthday of all day's and Russia's reaction has been damage control nothing to see here. Not to mention a week after he claimed new Russian land which immediately got "invaded".

Time to stop fearing nuke's. There's only 3 possible escalations from Ukraine in this order

1. Recapture LPR or DPR territory
2. Recapture Crimea
3. Invade and try hold parts of Russia

Only #3 justifies Russia using nuke's and that won't happen. Let's be honest he won't use nukes for #2 either. #3 there's a tiny chance but I seriously doubt it.

Time for Ukraine to officially get better weapon's. Whether that's defense systems, 300km range HIMARS or American fighter jets let's have it.

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My option on Geneva conventions and war crimes. They should only apply to the invading force which an invasion in itself should be a war crime. Defend yourself by any means possible.

ruZZia has not declared war on Ukraine. It is basicly a terrorist operation atm.
 
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My option on Geneva conventions and war crimes. They should only apply to the invading force which an invasion in itself should be a war crime. Defend yourself by any means possible.
This is correct. This is why talk about ceding territory is completely retarded. The Russkies have shown that this is tantamount to rape, torture, mutilation, and murder. If anyone is willing to let that happen because energy prices might go up, go fuck yourself
 

DJ12

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So in retaliation for the bridge, he essentially blows up people that "voted" to join Russia in territory he says is Russian now.

Solid plan Vald.
 

Tams

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There is no difference between armed and unarmed medics.
Medics are allowed to be armed for self-defense with a pistol or MP.
Orderlies can even wear a rifle.
You also can't intentionally target wounded.

All those 3 are protected by the Geneva convention.
So, you can't just drop a shrapnel bomb on the whole group, you can shoot at the front- and rearguard.


And yes, war crime is a little hyperbole from me, because "this war is the one with the worst war crimes ever in history" according to some online hot takes.

Oh, you're serious.

It's the Geneva Conventions, which tells us enough that you do not know what you are talking about.
 
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Kerotan

Member
This is correct. This is why talk about ceding territory is completely retarded. The Russkies have shown that this is tantamount to rape, torture, mutilation, and murder. If anyone is willing to let that happen because energy prices might go up, go fuck yourself
Myckolaiv will probably be 100% Ukrainian this year.

Kherson maybe 20% from almost zero including the capital.

Kharkiv 100%.

Luhansk liberation began.

Donetsk further liberated in the north.

Imagine if ukraine had of settled for a peace deal 2 months ago when they had stalled the Russians. It can only get better from here through force.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
It's been reported today that the orcs have setup the 2nd line of defense in Kherson 20km south of the current one which means if and when ukraine breaks through the first, nova kharkova will be within artillery range.

Additionaly, a few settlements have been liberated in Luhanks, they've been very active pushing the frontline towards Svatove so I guess those settlements are in that area.
 

DJ12

Member
It's been reported today that the orcs have setup the 2nd line of defense in Kherson 20km south of the current one which means if and when ukraine breaks through the first, nova kharkova will be within artillery range.

Additionaly, a few settlements have been liberated in Luhanks, they've been very active pushing the frontline towards Svatove so I guess those settlements are in that area.
Range of himars > 20km

Special delivery
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Range of himars > 20km

Special delivery

Sure! But HIMARS are a high value target so they are used as a scalpel, meanwhile standard artillery is more liberally used to hammer enemy positions.

Honestly I don't know how truthful they were to the journalists, but a BBC crew got access to a HIMARS team and essentially they stay hidden and when they get the shoot order they move out, shoot and go into hiding again.
 

nemiroff

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Your daily dose of russian cope:



When they do the "fear us!"-speak I kinda immediately tune out and fall asleep instead. "If we act even more crazy and even more defiant the world will fear us". Jesus.. They are little kids in adult bodies, the way they're thinking is intellectually abhorrent. It's the same with the strikes against civilians in Zaporizhzhia; They deliberately try to kill civilians because they think it will get them a better bargain at the table with Kyiv. But of course, in the real world we all know that people will only hate the ruzzians even more when they do this bullshit. If they want respect; Leave Ukraine. Simple as that.
 
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I was expecting this



go away GIF
 
Have you watched this video P prinz_valium ? Can you see how this is the war crime, and killing the soldiers who do this kind of thing is not? Can you understand that every drone that kills a Russian soldier should be applauded and celebrated, because it means there's one less of them to commit these kinds of atrocities?
Yeah, one is showing a definitive situation where the parties involved are clear.
The other might indicate something by whomever.

But sure, if what's indicated is true, that is obviously a way worse atrocity.
Humans are trash. That's sadly nothing new.
 
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