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[Maiden Voyage]

Do I need to start prepping a WWIII OT?

 

[Thaedolus]

Good thread:



I’d expect more lethal aid, possibly more sanctions, etc. Doubt anyone wants more direct NATO involvement than that. I mean, I’d love to see them smear the Russian forces across the earth, but I don’t have any iodine stocked up for the aftermath…

 

[Odinnii]

Biden: it’s “unlikely” the missile that landed in Poland was launched from Russia, but cautions it’s too early to know all the circumstances

Polish President Duda " No 'unequivocal evidence' yet of who fired missile that killed 2"

WWIII delayed?

 

[Valedix]

What happens if Nato closes Ukranian air space?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Well, they simply won’t. The people of Ukraine need oxygen just like the rest of us.

 

[Thaedolus]

Biden: it’s “unlikely” the missile that landed in Poland was launched from Russia, but cautions it’s too early to know all the circumstances

Polish President Duda " No 'unequivocal evidence' yet of who fired missile that killed 2"

WWIII delayed?

If ever there were a time for caution and patience, it’s now. It’s not like Warsaw just got nuked. A response can’t be proportional if nobody is sure yet what is being responded to.

 

[*Nightwing]

 

[Tams]

That’s the idiot in chief.

In current times I would much prefer if the so called leader of the free world‘s brain was not mashed potato. But here we are

Go on then. Tell us what Biden has said that has caused issues for Ukraine?

Sure, he's a bit senile and not as quick as he used to be. But on this issue (let's not discuss others here), where has he messed up?

 

[Nobody_Important]

Do I need to start prepping a WWIII OT?

No you're fine.

 

[LQX]

I wonder what the implication is with it was "unlikely" fired from Russia. Possible "false flag" from another country? Fired from Russians from an area they occupy in Ukraine? Does Russia even fire their more advance long range missiles from within Ukraine? Many questions. Hopefully Ukraine was not dumb enough to do this with captured equipment. As much havoc as Russia has unleashed on them this could potentially change sentiments big time especially in regards to shit like the Nord Stream explosion.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I wonder what the implication is with it was "unlikely" fired from Russia.

Hint: Belarus

 

[LQX]

Hint: Belarus

Shit, completely forgot about them.

 

[Magik85]

I wonder what the implication is with it was "unlikely" fired from Russia. Possible "false flag" from another country?

I believe it means it could be part of Ukranian air defence system that failed to hit russian rocket.

 

[nemiroff]

I wonder what the implication is with it was "unlikely" fired from Russia. Possible "false flag" from another country? Fired from Russians from an area they occupy in Ukraine? Does Russia even fire their more advance long range missiles from within Ukraine? Many questions. Hopefully Ukraine was not dumb enough to do this with captured equipment. As much havoc as Russia has unleashed on them this could potentially change sentiments big time especially in regards to shit like the Nord Stream explosion.

Ukraine catching ruZZian cruise missiles with butterfly nets and throwing them into Poland is a funny mental image - And a preposterously retarded conspiracy theory.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Long time coming. Czech Republic decided to label Russia as a Terrorist state.

Současné Rusko je teroristický stát, prohlásil sněmovní zahraniční výbor Česka

Sněmovní zahraniční výbor ve čtvrtek v usnesení označil současný ruský režim za teroristický. Odsoudil zejména rozsáhlé útoky na ukrajinské civilní obyvatelstvo či klíčovou infrastrukturu. Neuznává také výsledky takzvaných referend o připojení čtyř okupovaných oblastí na východě Ukrajiny k...

www.denik.cz

I wonder what all these countries will do when the war ends with Putin still in power?

Virtue signalling, world diplomacy edition.

 

[sinnergy]

People it’s just a rocket from the air defense of the Ukraine. This will be the story .

The real question is why would you activate the Ukrainian air defense so close to the western Ukrainian border .. easy, because you need to take down a Russian missile that is fired on towns close to the western border of the Ukraine.

The second question , why does Russia fire on the West of the Ukraine while their war is concentrated in the East! Because they are losing and loser bombing everything.

The West should just let Russia do this , maybe we can talk about this incident for a couple of months, until the next. Give them 1000 strikes, you are still not out, ️

All is well! For Putin. He has our nuts tightly in his hands, “Mcfly you got no balls “

At least send some f15s and f16s and long range Hi-mars.

 

[Tams]

I believe it means it could be part of Ukranian air defence system that failed to hit russian rocket.

No, it means the trajectory means that it couldn't have come Russia. That's all. Lviv is so far west that Russian forces may well use Belarus or the Black Sea to launch missiles at it.

NATO have that area very closely watched.

And Ukraine would be insane to not say it was their missile if they knew it was. They'd risk losing so much aid.

Sure, states play games, but dragging NATO into this would not work out for them, mostly because such an incident is not going have NATO get involved.

Geez, people like you seem to barely have two brain cells to rub together.

 

[RaduN]

Go in then. Tell us what Biden has said that has caused issues for Ukraine?

Sure, he's a bit senile and not as quick as he used to be. But on this issue (let's not discuss others here), where has he messed up?

So far, Biden and the US, managed this fucking mess of a situation as good as anyone could, if not better. That's all there is to it.

 

[Banjo64]

What a minute…

3 US sources have told AP that the missile was fired by a Ukrainian air defence system…

Does that mean?

NATO AND Russia VS Ukraine!?

GG EZ

 

[Cyberpunkd]

This is getting so, so tiresome. After more than 2 years of media constant barrage of Covid-19 they now have the war to exploit. How are 24/7 news channels different from Facebook

Major Polish online news service Onet.pl had two headlines next to one another a moment ago:

"This was a test of NATO anti-missile defense. NATO has failed"

"Anti-missile defense in the modern era is not there to protect cities or fields, but military installations"

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Russians will now blame Ukraine, not themselves for initially firing the rockets. Pieces of shit.

 

[M1chl]

I wonder what all these countries will do when the war ends with Putin still in power?

Virtue signalling, world diplomacy edition.

It depends heavily on Government which will be in power by then. I don't think we as a country should virtue signal about any of this, since Russia came in 1968 and left 1989, fucking them, so much misery, I don't even know how they were allow here.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It depends heavily on Government which will be in power by then. I don't think we as a country should virtue signal about any of this, since Russia came in 1968 and left 1989, fucking them, so much misery, I don't even know how they were allow here.

1989 was 33 years ago.

 

[Tams]

What a minute…

3 US sources have told AP that the missile was fired by a Ukrainian air defence system…

Does that mean?

NATO AND Russia VS Ukraine!?

GG EZ

No, you muppet. Though if it does end up being a Ukrainian S300 missile, then their accusations of it being a Russian one are going to lose them some credibility.

Not enough to make any difference, but something they'd have to be careful about to not repeat.

 

[M1chl]

1989 was 33 years ago.

Yeah yeah just a small thing which happens to my country, which basically influence it's trajectory economically a socially and given the Russia acts the same still and we should all be fine with that.

Tomorrow is anniversary of deciding that we don't want Bolsheviks, which we controlled by Russia to rule us.

I know that you are from comfortable country and that these things does not influence you.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I know that you are from comfortable country and that these things does not influence you.

I was born in socialist Eastern European country, lived there for more than 20 years. Fixating on the past gets you, me, us nowhere.

 

[M1chl]

I was born in socialist Eastern European country, lived there for more than 20 years. Fixating on the past gets you, me, us nowhere.

Oh okay then. True, that's why we make ensure that this shitty state is no longer of any influence. It shouldn't be before, so hopefully we are making changes, so me and other unfortunate's who experienced oppression of their ancestors can finally let it go.

And by the way if you catch this, it does not seems to be that much of advantage to make a deal with Russia currently:
Outrageous: Hungary is buying Russian gas for a five-fold price - Daily News Hungary

 

[Banjo64]

No, you muppet. Though if it does end up being a Ukrainian S300 missile, then their accusations of it being a Russian one are going to lose them some credibility.

Not enough to make any difference, but something they'd have to be careful about to not repeat.

Yeah it was just a joke

Regarding the missile used, would Ukraine have seized any from defeated Russian forces as they have tanks etc?

 

[Ironbunny]

What a minute…

3 US sources have told AP that the missile was fired by a Ukrainian air defence system…

Does that mean?

NATO AND Russia VS Ukraine!?

GG EZ

None of the missiles would be flying if ruZZia would not be invading Ukraine. Defensive action of Ukraine do not cause any clauses to be activated (neither do mistakes).

 

[Banjo64]

None of the missiles would be flying if ruZZia would not be invading Ukraine. Defensive action of Ukraine do not cause any clauses to be activated (neither do mistakes).

Was just joking (obviously not very well )

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And by the way if you catch this, it does not seems to be that much of advantage to make a deal with Russia currently:
Outrageous: Hungary is buying Russian gas for a five-fold price - Daily News Hungary

Ah, Hungary, secret school crush of all the nationalists in Poland...

 

[M1chl]

Ah, Hungary, secret school crush of all the nationalists in Poland...

Well it's the one EU country who are deep into working with Russia.

But also here it's pretty much the same, lot of stupid "patriotic" demonstration for cooperation with Russia. Maga style shit, shitton of Skinheads, Anti-waxers, etc and other "good people like that" going there. Here the general situation is that in any given weekend (well not any but often), you have one day a pro-Russian demonstration and other day a pro-Ukrainian one. I hope that the authorities outlook of such events will change after declaration of that Russia is a terrorist state.

 

[nightmare-slain]

pheew so it wasn't russia. be careful where you're firing shit Ukraine! aim for the Russians not Polish!

 

[Odinnii]

U.S. President Joe Biden told G7 and NATO partners that a missile blast in Poland was caused by a Ukrainian air defence missile, a NATO source told Reuters on Wednesday.

U.S. leaving no room for speculations it seems

 

[sobaka770]

So much noise for nothing. Both Biden and Russian defense ministry just went full denial and will bury this story by next week. And lets be honest, chances of it being a anti missile rocket were far greater than a huge error in a Russian missile that didn't have any precedent for doing so before.

News outlets got good ratings or of it I bet though. Poland got a bit of hype. And of course Zelenskiy still tries to go full WW3 under any excuse.

 

[FunkMiller]

The takeaway from this for some of you who get a bit panicked when stuff like this happens is that it’s best to let the dust settle, before making any assumptions. War is sometimes imprecise, accidental, and just plain fucking dumb. And places like Twitter are the absolute worst for getting clear, accurate information.

And it goes without saying:

No missiles would have hit Poland if Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, and weren’t firing dozens of missiles at innocent Ukrainian civilians.

 

[GymWolf]

So apparently a Russian missile has hit Polish soil, 2 dead. All is unconfirmed, but the government and the the BIS (Bureau of Internal Security) is meeting.

So it sounds like it did drop.

EDIT: late like my wifes period.

Congrats to the new dad

 

[chromhound]

Ehhh...

 

[Wildebeest]

Every day that Russia continues this illegal, brutal and needless war of aggression is another roll of the dice of them foolishly blundering into triggering article five. The odds might be acceptable to Putin, but are horrific to anyone who isn't a scared inadequate nitwit like him.

 

[Magik85]

I believe it means it could be part of Ukranian air defence system that failed to hit russian rocket.

No, it means the trajectory means that it couldn't have come Russia. That's all. Lviv is so far west that Russian forces may well use Belarus or the Black Sea to launch missiles at it.

NATO have that area very closely watched.

And Ukraine would be insane to not say it was their missile if they knew it was. They'd risk losing so much aid.

(...)

Geez, people like you seem to barely have two brain cells to rub together.

"U.S. President Joe Biden told G7 and NATO partners that a missile blast in Poland was caused by a Ukrainian air defence missile, a NATO source told Reuters on Wednesday"


Im not gonna lower myself to your level.
Enjoy your tasty crow

 

[Cyberpunkd]

No missiles would have hit Poland if Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, and weren’t firing dozens of missiles at innocent Ukrainian civilians.

Yeah, let's not go this way. It's the same kind of argument as "she wouldn't been raped if she was not wearing a short skirt". This argument is stupid AF, and so is yours. Ukrainians could have as well managed their missile defense better.

What is proves however is not only media but governments no longer stopping for a moment to think and consider the consequences of their actions. Poland gave Russian's ambassador an official diplomatic note during the night in connection with the explosion - they are going to apologize now?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Every day that Russia continues this illegal, brutal and needless war of aggression is another roll of the dice of them foolishly blundering into triggering article five. The odds might be acceptable to Putin, but are horrific to anyone who isn't a scared inadequate nitwit like him.

Article 5 will not be triggered, and even if it was this will not mean at all NATO will be directly involved in Ukraine or invade Russia. People are making it sound like NATO will just go "oh well, we have no choice but to go to war with Russia". It won't happen.

 

[M1chl]

This is art:

 

[FunkMiller]

Yeah, let's not go this way. It's the same kind of argument as "she wouldn't been raped if she was not wearing a short skirt". This argument is stupid AF, and so is yours. Ukrainians could have as well managed their missile defense better.

Oh, looks like we've got ourselves an expert in how missile defence systems work.

Great!

What make was the defence system? Because you must know that, to know how they should have managed it better? And what makes it better than all the other systems out there, that all have a tolerance for misfires and accidental off trajectory strikes? Where was it positioned? What exactly did the Ukrainians do wrong?

After all, if you didn't know the exact circumstances of how they mis-managed the system, then you'd sound like a right cunt for assuming fault... and I'm sure that's not the case, so what are the details of what happened, please?

Also, sounds like you're comparing a woman getting raped to... Russia firing missiles at Ukrainian civilians? As a defence of Russia? I'm sure that's not the case, as that would make you sound like an even bigger cunt, so could you clarify what you meant by that comparison?

 

[Meicyn]

Ukrainians could have as well managed their missile defense better.

And that would be accomplished how, exactly?

 

[Wildebeest]

Article 5 will not be triggered, and even if it was this will not mean at all NATO will be directly involved in Ukraine or invade Russia. People are making it sound like NATO will just go "oh well, we have no choice but to go to war with Russia". It won't happen.

I never really thought that this event might trigger it, but it is being handled worse than you could hope for. Most likely, Article 5 will not be triggered, but it is a non-zero chance. Article 5 is worse than a potential response to Russia using prohibited weapons in Ukraine, an attack on NATO would demand that NATO acts to pacify the source of the attack. Which would involve, I imagine, taking down all Russian air defence as a prelude to targetting military targets deep inside Russian territory.

 

[GymWolf]

You can’t even not react .. there are strict rules for this. If NATO doesn’ t react accordingly, why do we even have a NATO? It would be a Western Paper tiger ..

Putin is just playing the whole Western world . Anyone with half a brain saw this coming when he started mobilizing more than a year ago.

We are past all the talking it’s time to disarm Russia before he can spin up his complete war machine. Producing war products .

Putrid still has the nuclear option, nato is not gonna do jack shit like they didn't until now.

I don't know what it need to happen for nato to actually do something radical, but 2 misfired missiles aren't nearly enough.


I onestly don't know how much putin can push before nato is gonna ignore the nuclear treat, but i bet he can push a lot (9 months of invasion and killing innocents should be enough of a clue)

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And what makes it better than all the other systems out there, that all have a tolerance for misfires and accidental off trajectory strikes? Where was it positioned? What exactly did the Ukrainians do wrong?

After all, if you didn't know the exact circumstances of how they mis-managed the system, then you'd sound like a right cunt for assuming fault... and I'm sure that's not the case, so what are the details of what happened, please?

Also, sounds like you're comparing a woman getting raped to... Russia firing missiles at Ukrainian civilians? As a defence of Russia? I'm sure that's not the case, as that would make you sound like an even bigger cunt, so could you clarify what you meant by that comparison?

I am sure Ukraine didn't do it on purpose - then someone in Ukraine will be charged with involuntary manslaughter for the death of two Poles, correct? Because that is a clear definition of what happened.

I am comparing a woman being raped to your crazy justification for why it happened with "well if Russia didn't invade Ukraine they wouldn't have fired air-defense missiles DUH". That line of thinking is crazy. Russia invading Ukraine is one thing, Ukrainians firing a missile that malfunctioned and killed Polish civilians is another thing. Russia is responsible for the first part, Ukraine for the second.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

We are past all the talking it’s time to disarm Russia before he can spin up his complete war machine. Producing war products .

You do that and watch China rolling over central Asia.

 

[Doczu]

Congrats to the new dad

Possibly just a false flag as she's on good contraceptives. Still makes me somewhat nervous every time it happens. Got two little stinkers, no need for more

But that's a hard off-top.
On topic:

Still no official word from the government. Some claim it could have been an Ukrainian defensive missile launched to stop the Russian bombardment, but it got way off course