TheGodfather07
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S______L for PS5 to be revealed soon (The dedicated blueballs/Kojima 'conspiracy' thread)
IlGialloMondadori
Member
So what time are we looking at for the great big Hasan reveal? Anytime between now and the heat death of the universe?
CityHunter1981
Member
8BiTw0LF
Banned
It is true. Exactly how I searched through both Kojimas Twitter profiles.
Jesus Christ all the P.T retweets Kojima is making right now!
I've searched through all his tweets/retweets from 2015-2020 (August 12th) and he has never tweeted/retweeted anything P.T related in those years, from both his profiles.
Now, if Team Fake thinks this is just another coincidence....
Retweets as of now:
TheGodfather07
Member
Just wait. When its proven to be true, you shall address me as Godfather moving forward. You will show respect to your Don.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Leave the game, take the cannoli.
GHG
Gold Member
He also has absolutely no online presence to speak of.
We have one picture if him (my avatar) and all of the videos he's done are on plain backgrounds.
Plenty of reason to remain sceptical.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
He for sure is a real person, but it's unreal no one has any info on him. The trail stops with Blue Box Games. Now let's be real - if anyone of us, used our real name here on Gaf - it would take us 2 minutes to find out where we are surfing the net - who our friends are and what we've been doing for the past 20 years.
Hasan Kahraman is like a ghost.
OrionNebula
Member
GHG
Gold Member
Has anyone seen a video of Hasan longer than 20-30 seconds ?
Let’s also not rule out we never saw Hasan and Batman at the same place and time
If we lived in Gotham City we'd have more information on batman than we do on this guy and his "studio".
CityHunter1981
Member
Yes, I think he is real but probably has another real name. Whoever he is is another question, could be an aspiring actor or model but could be even an employee within Sony or Kojima productions.
Fushitsusha
Banned
I forget, but how far back does the name Hasan Kahraman go when it comes to Bluebox?
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MastaKiiLA
Member
It's really really strange that there's no trace of another soul that works at the same company. I mean, am I wrong? Did I miss some announcement?
I mean, it could be the work of one man, Hasan, similar to how FYQD is a one-man studio making Bright Memory. However, while the creator of that game always refers to things in the singular (me/I), Hasan always refers to things in plural. As if there's an actual team. Yet, there's neither hide nor hair of anyone else.
Too much weird shit about the whole situation for me to just write it off as a scam. Sony would be well aware of the buzz around this game and app by now, that any scam or false advertising would've been curtailed by now. Instead, he's been allowed to continue and in some cases, double-down. I'm convinced this is a Kojima stunt, just not sure in what capacity.
OrionNebula
Member
SCB3
Member
He claimed to have have over 50 devs or Employees at Blue Box
CityHunter1981
Member
I think either Kojima was all along behind the company building a fake company with a history for a future ruse, or the story which Hasan said that Sony took attention of them and contacted them are actually true only their intention was different (they saw this untalented developer) and wanted to take over the company.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Interesting. Average coder makes 43k euros per year. Even if we take just the average Dutch salary of 36.5k per year, that's $1.8M euros per year in salary alone, not counting infrastructure. Where would he get that kind of money? That was one hell of a successful Kickstarter, if he raised so little, but got venture capital of that amount. Yeah...this feels like a front for something bigger.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
He said the same thing back in 2015 or whatever, that he's got a huge staff. He keeps saying things, and he keeps promising a playable trailer, and then he has technical problems, and it disappears never to be released.
He does not have a huge staff.
K2D
Banned
Nothing better to do just in this moment so I searched for an english translations of the lyrics. Enjoy! 
"It's been a while", you laugh
Silly girl, in such a hurry
Even sweating a little
I don't know why but today, I've got to have you
It's like meeting a different girl
Shedding a veil of shadow off your body
And on your lips, a hint of color
Spreading the invisible wings
You sure have changed
As you walk, as you dance
Fooling around, teasing me
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
The mind doesn't know
Enough to call them "Days of love"
I was always so hungry for an embrace
Even forgetting to stop and just gaze at you
Now I'll just chase the wind, laughing
And go wherever you're taking me
When a deceiving man gets deceived
Only then, he comes to understand a woman
Spreading those invisible wings
Silently, you've changed
As you run, as you laugh
Dreaming, making love
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
As you walk, as you dance
Fooling around, teasing me
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
You're More Beautiful Than A Rose
Out of breath, a hand pressed against your chest"It's been a while", you laugh
Silly girl, in such a hurry
Even sweating a little
I don't know why but today, I've got to have you
It's like meeting a different girl
Shedding a veil of shadow off your body
And on your lips, a hint of color
Spreading the invisible wings
You sure have changed
As you walk, as you dance
Fooling around, teasing me
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
The mind doesn't know
Enough to call them "Days of love"
I was always so hungry for an embrace
Even forgetting to stop and just gaze at you
Now I'll just chase the wind, laughing
And go wherever you're taking me
When a deceiving man gets deceived
Only then, he comes to understand a woman
Spreading those invisible wings
Silently, you've changed
As you run, as you laugh
Dreaming, making love
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
As you walk, as you dance
Fooling around, teasing me
More beautiful than a rose
Ah, you have changed!
MastaKiiLA
Member
You might never have had to troubleshoot an issue. Technical problems happen to teams big and small. It's part of software coding. We don't know how the app works, so the issue it has run into might well be one that wasn't not forseen in any of the documentation available. MS and Google employ thousands of people, but both have released products with bugs that don't get fixed for months, if ever. It's hardly evidence of anything.
To me, the amount of time it's taking to fix is very well supported by what we know. They published the app. Over a long enough timeline, even a single person can thoroughly QA an app. So it stands to reason that whatever bug they're currently fixing now,didn't manifest itself when they were testing it locally. That means that by nature, it will be more difficult to fix than something that was easy to replicate on local machines. My guess is it might be network-related, as the app will be seeing timed releases. Just a random guess though.
I should note that when I say running locally, I'm also referring to any development servers that might exist. Sony should have dev servers to test networking apps, but anyone with experience knows that dev and prod environments don't always translate 1:1.
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IlGialloMondadori
Member
I’ve been a dev for over 20 years and am a lead.
If you cannot even release a single working product, including a trailer, in like 6 years, you’re not good at your job.
You cannot seriously be comparing MSs development products with Hasan Kahraman’s turds…
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8BiTw0LF
Banned
This year. He never used Hasan Kahraman for anything on the web since this year.
(Google search 'name' 'company' 'before:year')
He's a ghost.
Fushitsusha
Banned
Thanks babe.
By the way, can you check the credits of Until Dawn: Rush of Blood and see if you find something suspicious?
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Setsuna Mudou
Member
No, no, no, no, no....
Do NOT go and actually harass this guy. That's a recipe for disaster.
Let's leave it as fun and games online, which is what this thing really is. Once it starts bleeding in to real life that's a real problem.
I guess you kind of said it as a joke, but someone might take it seriously.
GuinGuin
Banned
They have but Kojima is far to clever to use something so obvious. It will be related to the clues he gave. We have to get creative if we are going to crack the code in the app.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Yes, their cleverness knows no bounds with deep riddles like “S_____ _____L” and a guy with an eyepatch that looks like snake.
we need to think at the level of a 4 year old to figure this out.
Spank_Magnet
The Male Lewinsky
Already been done. Nothing of note leaps out afaik.
MastaKiiLA
Member
If you've been a dev for 20 years, and particularly a lead, then you should know that there is no certainty in a product release. This is not supposed to be a video app, but rather in-engine demos ala 3DMark. The innards of the app neither one of us knows, so you're clearly off base by making assumptions about the complexity. We developed a service for our flagship app, that was supposed to connect to the API of a billion-dollar partner. A partner that if I mentioned their names, everyone in this thread would instantly know. On the day of release (just a month ago), all hell broke loose. We were in our virtual war room for half the day. I was on call until 3am, working with the team back stateside. At the end of the day, we ended up rolling back the deployment.
What was the cause? The billion-dollar partner discovered a critical bug in the API that had not been notice by anyone in the almost 2 years of development it had undergone. It took them over a week to remedy the situation, and when they did, and we reconnected the service, another bug cropped up on their end. Shit happens. It's software.
You and I both know that patches exist for a reason. Software breaks. That's the long and the short of it. Almost any code that has to run more than Hello World has bugs in it. Most bugs are not critical, so can continue to exist while the product team works on a fix, or just ignores it forever. If you're really a developer, then you're just being disingenuous in making such an absurd claim. The app doesn't seem to crash (I don't have a PS5, so can't confirm). What I understand is that it just doesn't do what it's intended. So the app is working, just not in full capacity.
Fushitsusha
Banned
When did Hermen Hulst get promoted? I feel that guy is overlooked and "Hasan" is potentially someone that joined Guerilla after Bluebox failures. Real name different of course.
Many might ask why would Guerilla would hire someone with that kind of portfolio but that's not the point.
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8BiTw0LF
Banned
Nothing?
Until Dawn: Rush of Blood credits (PlayStation 4, 2016) - MobyGames
The official game credits for Until Dawn: Rush of Blood released on PlayStation 4 in 2016. The credits include 479 people.
www.mobygames.com
SCB3
Member
Can confirm, like 70% of my job is fixing bugs
bitbydeath
Gold Member
There was no patch.
That short video seems to be all they were intending.
That short video seems to be all they were intending.
SilentUser
Member
I must say... Kojima retweeting PT stuff for the first time in years is very, very interesting.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
There was no patch.
That short video seems to be all they were intending.
And Shu doesn't know anything about it!
Am I doing it right, #TeamFake?
OrionNebula
Member
I definitely said that as a joke
IlGialloMondadori
Member
1) why even make a dumb app to host in-engine demos? What engine? Why not just post, you know, a demo? It's just a really dumb idea.
2) Hasan has said he's making an in-engine demo a couple of times now, and then never delivered. There's a long history of this.
I do know that patches exist, bugs happen, etc.
I also know that Hasan has a history of lavish claims and technical disasters, and has never delivered on his claims.
Reficul
Member
Just want to say that I'm still all in with TeamReal.
They say that where there's smoke, there's fire. Well in this case there is a goddamn forest fire.
- Ever since I heard that Kahraman equals Hideo I was all in.
- Both has the same initials.
- What indie developer would use time and money to create an app for PSN instead of commiting to developing the actual game?
- The S____ ___L message was an attempt to make it too obvious.
- Blue Box is Bluepoint and the creator of someone who is famous for hiding in boxes.
- Bluepoint has teased that they are working on abandoned Konami IPs.
- The MGS eye patch image points towards Kojima (and Bluepoint by extension).
- Reedus/Kojima twitter hints.
- All the other hints I haven't mentioned.
To sum up, I believe we will end up with either MGS or Silent Hill projects or both.
The Bluepoint aquisition by Sony will also be confirmed.
That's my take on this. If I'm wrong I will continue my life as normal. No harm in having a little hope and fun.
They say that where there's smoke, there's fire. Well in this case there is a goddamn forest fire.
- Ever since I heard that Kahraman equals Hideo I was all in.
- Both has the same initials.
- What indie developer would use time and money to create an app for PSN instead of commiting to developing the actual game?
- The S____ ___L message was an attempt to make it too obvious.
- Blue Box is Bluepoint and the creator of someone who is famous for hiding in boxes.
- Bluepoint has teased that they are working on abandoned Konami IPs.
- The MGS eye patch image points towards Kojima (and Bluepoint by extension).
- Reedus/Kojima twitter hints.
- All the other hints I haven't mentioned.
To sum up, I believe we will end up with either MGS or Silent Hill projects or both.
The Bluepoint aquisition by Sony will also be confirmed.
That's my take on this. If I'm wrong I will continue my life as normal. No harm in having a little hope and fun.
MastaKiiLA
Member
1. Why try anything that's never been done before? Whether or not it's dumb hasn't been determined. So far, there is interest. That's one piece of the puzzle in place.
2. A couple of times does not a long history make. I think you're exaggerating.
Hasan has a minimal history. That's part of the mystery. All will be revealed in due time.
ParaSeoul
Member
IDK if I'm gonna regret posting it here but he follows a lady on twitter with the same last name who is also from the Netherlands.
Crimson_Fate
Member
OrionNebula
Member
It’s separated in team real and team fake over there as well
CityHunter1981
Member
I remember he even said in an interview that he has to post a photo or video of his team as soon as possible.
Then he said later due to current circumstances it’s not a good idea to make a photo with the other members… So I don’t buy it, either it’s really Kojima behind or he is a fraud that works alone, although I don’t know where the money for Nuare is coming from….
Then he said later due to current circumstances it’s not a good idea to make a photo with the other members… So I don’t buy it, either it’s really Kojima behind or he is a fraud that works alone, although I don’t know where the money for Nuare is coming from….
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
After all these coincidences, and i am expecting even more, i expect it to ammount to fucking nothing.