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Still time for that state of play announcement but my money is still on the future games show.
Of course Kojima is going to give it to his best buddy Geoff. Karakman-San already mentioned wanting to be part of it
Still time for that state of play announcement but my money is still on the future games show.
and not at E3Sony not at gamescom?
*Ron Howard Voice*and not at E3
this had better be BIG !
im giving it until gamescom before writing all this silent hills stuff off as nonsense. if that is indeed the case, than one has to wonder what the hell is going on at sony? the communication has been awful. its like they've all taken a holiday and left the brand to run itself. i thought sony had a plan and were just waiting until the right time but im not so sure anymore. still no sign of any kind of showcase. where's god of war? how come they havent announced the delay of horizon forbidden west? it seems like sony aint trying anymore and are getting the late PS2 era attitude of being too big to fail.
Trade shows take up alot of dev time to make vertical slices and trailers. Remember when sony skipped e3 of 2019 and came back in 2020 with at least 7 first party in 2020? As long as ps5 is selling out and sony is making moves behind the scenes, i think theyre fine for the time being.im giving it until gamescom before writing all this silent hills stuff off as nonsense. if that is indeed the case, than one has to wonder what the hell is going on at sony? the communication has been awful. its like they've all taken a holiday and left the brand to run itself. i thought sony had a plan and were just waiting until the right time but im not so sure anymore. still no sign of any kind of showcase. where's god of war? how come they havent announced the delay of horizon forbidden west? it seems like sony aint trying anymore and are getting the late PS2 era attitude of being too big to fail.
They are the king quite easily of their market sector; every tweet gets insane amount of engagement, every event they do put on gets insane engagement, etc.
Throwing big shows adds cost, and distracts teams.
I think they just know their place and are cost optimizing IMO. Probably weren't seeing a return on their investment of going to events, which is why they scaled that back even before COVID.
Trade shows take up alot of dev time to make vertical slices and trailers. Remember when sony skipped e3 of 2019 and came back in 2020 with at least 7 first party in 2020? As long as ps5 is selling out and sony is making moves behind the scenes, i think theyre fine for the time being.
It definitely distracts teams; any sort of deadline does, and an event w/ a date pre-determined is a deadline. Those events are a clusterfuck, are expensive, are not entirely in your control, etc. (and part of your team usually has to go, just the nature of such an event)Does it though? Does it REALLY distract teams? They are literally making record profits now, due to what they did during the PS4 generation where they invested into the PlayStation ecosystem. I HATE that more people can't seem to understand this.
They are the king quite easily of their market sector; every tweet gets insane amount of engagement, every event they do put on gets insane engagement, etc.
Throwing big shows adds cost, and distracts teams.
I think they just know their place and are cost optimizing IMO. Probably weren't seeing a return on their investment of going to events, which is why they scaled that back even before COVID.
Trade shows take up alot of dev time to make vertical slices and trailers. Remember when sony skipped e3 of 2019 and came back in 2020 with at least 7 first party in 2020? As long as ps5 is selling out and sony is making moves behind the scenes, i think theyre fine for the time being.
i get the costs and stress it puts on the teams but who says they need to do E3? just one show at a time they feel is right would be fine. nothing but state of plays scattered through the year is lame in comparison.
Well they did a big video presentation last year... who says one isn't coming this year?
My overriding point is that Sony has everyone's attention and can put out their own pre-recorded video and destroy the numbers for anyone else's E3 presentation, or their outreach from going to Gamescon, etc.
But that doesn't mean they won't go to or hold any events.. they've scaled back, and I'm just suggesting why I think that is.
I've felt for a long time (since Jim took over) Sony moving as close as they can to the Nintendo model of being a faceless company with minimal spending and fan engagement with just periodic SoPs just like Nintendo Directs.
I get it from a business/making money POV especially given their sales position right now, but for hardcore Sony fans particularly it is hard to swallow.
It definitely distracts teams; any sort of deadline does, and an event w/ a date pre-determined is a deadline. Those events are a clusterfuck, are expensive, are not entirely in your control, etc. (and part of your team usually has to go, just the nature of such an event)
Making video presentations and being able to set your own time, not have to host an interactive demo of an unfinished product, etc. gets just as many or more eyes on your product as something like E3 for far less cost and you have far more control.
Sony's success hasn't decreased since they stopped attending E3 in any way.. so not like they don't have the numbers here.
They are powerful enough that it honestly sort of deflates the events for everyone else too.. PAX was NOT the same w/o them in 2018, the entire event lost some of it's mojo.. you'd think not having Sony there would give other's more time/eyes but what it did was cause less people to go/stick around/be excited/etc. PAX 2019 was probably the worst I'd ever been to, the second one they skipped pre-COVID.
I don't get why people think Sony doesn't understand all of this, have the numbers.. done the ROI analysis, etc.
I mean look at Nintendo.. they couldn't be more successful than they are, and they also scaled back events, switching to dropping videos online.
How many people even got to play a Sony game at a conference every year beforehand?
It's basically 2-3 days of endless lines and only a fraction of attendees of any event get to play the hottest games (or are willing to wait in the lines.) They are really cool for what they are, but it's gotta be in the 10s of thousands of people who ever really got to do the in-person thing and really experience what you've got.. I do think there's value in the "so what if the ROI isn't that great, it's a cool ass thing" attitude.. but from an actual business standpoint, it's probably kinda pointless. Everyone thinks XBox/Phil Spencer are the kewlest right now and their outreach is good but it's not translating into $$$ lol.. games do.
I'm just talking about Sony's strategy; clearly THEY dont think these events are that important.. as they stopped going to E3 in 2019 and majorly scaled back events in general even before COVID.I'm not sure you understand how important those events are in the greater scheme of things. How does Sony think they are going to sell PSVR2 next year "WITHOUT" showing up to events to allow people to play it? PSVR2 will be DOOMED if they decide to show up to no events and also not have their own in 2022.
I'm not sure you understand how important those events are in the greater scheme of things. How does Sony think they are going to sell PSVR2 next year "WITHOUT" showing up to events to allow people to play it? PSVR2 will be DOOMED if they decide to show up to no events and also not have their own in 2022.
I doubt .1 percent did.That's not how any of this works. I doubt 1% of PSVR buyers used one at a trade show before purchasing it. I know I didn't. It will sell based on the games they show and there is no incentive for them to show games for it until it's near launch.
Your avatar is a blue box and we are onto you.The most popular color in the world..
And the shape of every single album cover ever..
YOU GOT US!
The most popular color in the world..
And the shape of every single album cover ever..
YOU GOT US!
A box that has Blue on it.
Hey everyone it's Hasan/Hideo.
Is the next teaser of
a) a butthole and
b) if so, how will the dualsense work with it?
Major Tom...Ground Control to Major Tom
Ground Control to Major Tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
Ground Control to Major Tom (ten, nine, eight, seven, six)
Commencing countdown, engines on (five, four, three)
Check ignition and may God's love be with you (two, one, liftoff)
This is Ground Control to Major Tom
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare
"This is Major Tom to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today
For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do
I've felt for a long time (since Jim took over) Sony moving as close as they can to the Nintendo model of being a faceless company with minimal spending and fan engagement with just periodic SoPs just like Nintendo Directs.
I get it from a business/making money POV especially given their sales position right now, but for hardcore Sony fans particularly it is hard to swallow.
Notice he ALWAYS makes sure the Sony logo is in the frame regardless of what Walkman he is using.
I honestly can't tell if you're on a wind up with the majority of your posts. Bravo.Notice he ALWAYS makes sure the Sony logo is in the frame regardless of what Walkman he is using.
Sony Kojima acquisition this SOP/experience event.Notice he ALWAYS makes sure the Sony logo is in the frame regardless of what Walkman he is using.
Another BLUE BOX
Team fake can pack up their trash and go home. It's over.
Countdown ends on the 19th.I take that the countdown has been moved from the hour the photo has been taken to the time the song has been playing?
If that's so, what happens if nothing gets announced today that the countdown has reached 0, when he keeps posting songs after today or when he releases a DSC trailer?
I take that the countdown has been moved from the hour the photo has been taken to the time the song has been playing?
If that's so, what happens if nothing gets announced today that the countdown has reached 0, when he keeps posting songs after today or when he releases a DSC trailer?
Countdown ends on the 19th.
So ya'll failed to mention that hIdeo also posted that black/white image to Twitter, explicitly called out it as a Death Stranding trailer, and then posted a black and white photo of his controller.. so show it was the camera in black and white mode and not necessarily the trailer? lol
Countdown is bullshit,future games show is where we're gonna see something.Countdown ends on the 19th.
Also he said he had made the shortest trailer ever before the Abandoned teaser arrived. It’s unlikely DS will be shorter than that, or even short at all.
Hate to break it to you, but you're not seeing anything Abandoned at FGS either.Countdown is bullshit,future games show is where we're gonna see something.
Someone better tell James Jarvis then.Hate to break it to you, but you're not seeing anything Abandoned at FGS either.
The fuckwit who's wrong about everything?Someone better tell James Jarvis then.
Yesterday, was the 2 day mark.Nah that would be tomorrow the 18th.