When has she been embarrassed by her own nudity? When she decided to make her own clothes? People wear clothes, so she made her own. Also, one was when she was in the middle of a fight and the other wasn't.
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Samurai Jack Season 5 |OT| But Yeah, Im Thinking Im Back.
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When has she been embarrassed by her own nudity? When she decided to make her own clothes? People wear clothes, so she made her own. Also, one was when she was in the middle of a fight and the other wasn't.
Tal Shiar Agent
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If she spent the entire time with Jack it would be a more compelling argument. Instead she spent days or weeks roaming the world searching for him, learning about him from the outside and interacting with dozens of other people.
I honestly just wish they didn't sexualize Ashi as much as they have. That's my only complaint about the whole thing. That and the romance here is pretty bland in terms of writing.
The whole 70 year old non-aging immortal coupled with the traumatized 20 year old is an odd thing to complain about because it's not something that's ever gonna happen in real life. I also object to the idea that Ashi isn't an adult capable of making her own choices because of said trauma. Especially since it's not like this show is some realistic psychological study of how something like being ageless in a time not your own would TRULY affect one's mental state. I can understand how it might be creepy in some contexts where stuff like the psychological trauma these people experience is treated seriously, but the show hasn't really done that. If it did, the resolution to Ashi's shattered worldview wouldn't be as simple as "So, Aku is actually bad and I'm actually good. Got it? Good." and Jack's return to form wouldn't be him meditating for a few hours and deciding that he had enough of being a crazy hobo and wants to be balanced again, so he tells evil jack to fuck off and that just solves all his personal problems. It's pretty lighthearted and pulpy and this romance just follows through with that.
The whole thing just comes down to the idea that Samurai Jack didn't need a love interest. I don't object to having one on principle, but I'd have preferred them doing something more unconventional than what the did. As it is, it's just a typical "Start off enemies, but the unrealistic, unfailing kindness and infinite patience of one party eventually melts the icy exterior of the other, after which it's mostly just a matter of sexual tension." It's mostly stuff I've seen before.
The whole 70 year old non-aging immortal coupled with the traumatized 20 year old is an odd thing to complain about because it's not something that's ever gonna happen in real life. I also object to the idea that Ashi isn't an adult capable of making her own choices because of said trauma. Especially since it's not like this show is some realistic psychological study of how something like being ageless in a time not your own would TRULY affect one's mental state. I can understand how it might be creepy in some contexts where stuff like the psychological trauma these people experience is treated seriously, but the show hasn't really done that. If it did, the resolution to Ashi's shattered worldview wouldn't be as simple as "So, Aku is actually bad and I'm actually good. Got it? Good." and Jack's return to form wouldn't be him meditating for a few hours and deciding that he had enough of being a crazy hobo and wants to be balanced again, so he tells evil jack to fuck off and that just solves all his personal problems. It's pretty lighthearted and pulpy and this romance just follows through with that.
The whole thing just comes down to the idea that Samurai Jack didn't need a love interest. I don't object to having one on principle, but I'd have preferred them doing something more unconventional than what the did. As it is, it's just a typical "Start off enemies, but the unrealistic, unfailing kindness and infinite patience of one party eventually melts the icy exterior of the other, after which it's mostly just a matter of sexual tension." It's mostly stuff I've seen before.
Mister Wolf
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The whole she's underage or Jack is taking advantage of her angle some people are taking is fucking absurd.
It has some effort put into developing it, so yeah, sure.
Speedydonut
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Mr. Smiley
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It's pretty overblown to be honest. Too many folks are focusing so hard on a loud bunch when many others, even those who may not like direction, are still having lots of fun.
tumblr and 4chan are always gonna be fighting each other over the smallest shit so it's nothing get wrapped into.
Korrasami was so bad because it was just made to please tumblr in the last second.
But I can buy the way the creators explained it this was just them realizing there was something else to their friendship.
The actual relationship comes after that.
Really, Korrasami was just another example in a long line of it's writing problems regarding relationships. I never believed Korra and Mako had anything between them besides physical lust, I never believed in the Krew as a real team because they never really shared moments the way the Gaang did.
Pleasing tumblr fans is not hte problem. The entire point of entertainment is to please it's fans. It just didn't do a good job of manifesting it. Legend of Korra was just a massive flub on every writing level.
Admiral Woofington
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Korrasami was the worst. It was pleasing Tumblr audiences to a fault. Absolutely nothing before that could be read as romantic, but then they opt to please this part of the fanbase and the excuse is that anything that was read as a blossoming friendship was actually romance, and if you disliked it you were immediately questioned for being sexist and a homophobe. I just stopped arguing.
I thought this episode was incredibly cute. As someone who was really unsure about the idea of Jack x Ashi being a thing, this episode made me enjoy the idea, and to be honest I'm not sure what other kind of love interest you could conjure for him in his position -
which as previously mentioned, really boils the entire issue down to whether or not you think he needs one in the first place.
which as previously mentioned, really boils the entire issue down to whether or not you think he needs one in the first place.
I feel Korrasami wasn't about pleasing tumblr so much as it was about having the show leave some sort mark. I mean the writing was on the wall, it was going to go down as one of the more disappointing sequels ever. Korrasami at least made the show offer something, the first western show for young audiences where the main protagonist was in a same sex relationship.
I give Korrasami a pass because it wasn't a romantic relationship happening throughout a season, but friendship that eventually turns into a potential relationship somewhere down the road. They didn't even kiss in the finale or anything, they just sorta held hands and went off from there.
I understand the complaints, but I think the rage around it is a tad overblown. Especially in comparison to Kataang which was actually poorly handled for the most part.
I understand the complaints, but I think the rage around it is a tad overblown. Especially in comparison to Kataang which was actually poorly handled for the most part.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Entirely subjective. Book 3 alone was just as good as anything ATLA ever produced.
I mean it can happen, but it was handled laughably. I meant that at least that was never supposed to be the "I love you" moment, that would've been so much worse.
This is how you do a lesbian couple:
By the way we're so gonna need "Samurai Jack Season 5 |OT2| Not a Romance Series."
I agree. Korra had problems but it's still a whole other level of quality compared to most TV shows
Mr. Smiley
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so this was your plan
I thought Korrasami was handled quite well, though my caveat is that it was a crack ship of mine at the time. The evidence was mostly built up over Korra's absence while she was recovering from her mercury poisoning, namely that she kept writing to Asami while only wrote to Mako and Bolin once or twice, despite the bros being closer friends of hers through the preceding adventures than Asami was, as she was out of focus in Season 2 entirely and only around a bit in Season 3.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Bleh.
It got some of it's shit together. It still had pacing problems by focusing on stupid and useless characters like Kai (an aladdin character so bland you didn't remember who he was until you read "aladdin character") while not really going in too deeply why the philosophical conflict matters when Korra doesn't really have much of an opinion on it beyond "hey, stop killing people you jackass".
It didn't shit the bed as thoroughly as other seasons, but I'd take any season of TLA over it.
Infinite Justice
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The execution of that whole thing in Korra was piss poor and lacking so when it happened it felt really sudden (and if your cynical a easy way to get people talking).
At least the upcoming comic seems to be expanding on that so hopefully it makes it better.
Also entirely subjective
well if it is then its failing spectacularly right now lol
As for Jack/Ashi while this is seen as a nuisance to some or whatever it already has interesting implications for the final episodes.
At least the upcoming comic seems to be expanding on that so hopefully it makes it better.
Also entirely subjective
well if it is then its failing spectacularly right now lol
As for Jack/Ashi while this is seen as a nuisance to some or whatever it already has interesting implications for the final episodes.
So, wait, as someone who never saw the original seasons, why was tumblr so sure Jack was gay? There was mentions on that before? ...or just cause he was a lonely wanderer = gay?
Vulcano's assistant
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Visually they look like team Rocket, that aside; probably the Kzinti . Every cat race from space in modern media is a homage to Kzin, whether they are aware of it or not imo. And if the name starts with a K, then you are sure it is the case.
None of you people appreciated the character like I did.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Literally just because of a bumper during the original run where Jack is doing laundry in a laundromat and Johnny Bravo is doing his laundry there too.
Infinite Justice
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Still the best part about is being a "fuck you" to Mako (the Korra character, not the actor) since he was crap.
Wait, you mean, they took that seriously? I remember that ad, but... that's all? like that's all? Wasn't that like joke about Jack not having more clothes? Wow .__.
Don't really get it considering he was clearly attracted to Aku's female form and that one woman in the train robbery episode.
Infinite Justice
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I think that's what it is. The only thing lacking on them was that they should have had more word jokes while they were getting pummeled by Jack and Ashi.
"OUCH"
"SMASH"
"HELP!"
etc.
Finally finished catching up. Gotta say that this last episode was pretty weak because of the sudden romantic sub-plot. Before that, I saw the two as teacher/mentor or something along those lines. Really feel like the romance was unnecessary. However, if they wanted to go this route, it could've been handled a lot better. Having all these really awkward interactions and then end with them kissing is just odd.
lmao stop.
lmao stop.
Book 3 was good in a vacuum, but it was still not as strong as the original and doesn't prop up the rest of the series.
LoK is so frustrating for me. I mean the team was given a much bigger budget, more freedom, and more adult character, and a great setting. It actually started strong, but then it collapsed. kinda like with season five of Jack!
If this relationship hadn't happened, I was gonna say he goes back and leave Ashii in the present to act as its protector. Now, I think he's gonna stay. He's not gonna leave her, but I also don't think she's gonna go back with him
Tal Shiar Agent
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I don't agree that either show has collapsed. And Korra was screwed by the network relentlessly from the start.
PatThePassive
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Will the revelation be that Jack going back and defeating Aku will cause Ashii to not be born due to the Daughters of Aku not being made
They could do the separate timelines don't erase each other thing with the characters changing the futures path and not erasing the previous future allowing Ashii to leave with jack, but I always hate when shows do that.
They could do the separate timelines don't erase each other thing with the characters changing the futures path and not erasing the previous future allowing Ashii to leave with jack, but I always hate when shows do that.
That's what I'm guessing due to it being the most conflicting path.
Folk are mad as hell about this episode, huh.
I thought it was in the same level as the rest of the episodes after three: pretty average, kinda boring.
Like the first three episodes were rad as hell, but then it just sorta dropped in quality. For me at least. I thought episode four was the worst of the lot. This episode was around that.
Were's the Scotsman anywhoo?
I thought it was in the same level as the rest of the episodes after three: pretty average, kinda boring.
Like the first three episodes were rad as hell, but then it just sorta dropped in quality. For me at least. I thought episode four was the worst of the lot. This episode was around that.
Were's the Scotsman anywhoo?
Admiral Woofington
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We're derailing the thread too much guys, we already had our thread to complain about the show.
Azure Dream
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Uh, it's really hard to miss the Scotsman, unless you mean "out looking for Jack".
LumpOfCole
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I don't really have anything against Jack and Ashi being a couple, and Season 5 has been very clear in introducing Ashi as an equal partner to Jack (in terms of ability) instead of being a disciple or daughter figure.
There is even balance in how they have helped one another, as Jack saves Ashi from hatred while Ashi saved Jack from despair. They tangibly make each other better and that's really the main quality I look for in a proper romance.
I never, ever saw the daughter aspect at all, even with the age difference. When it comes to relationships, both are mentally brand new, so I don't see a creep factor. Maybe that's a naive point of view but I stand by it in this specific case, as Jack's innocence in these areas override any creepiness that might be there.
There is even balance in how they have helped one another, as Jack saves Ashi from hatred while Ashi saved Jack from despair. They tangibly make each other better and that's really the main quality I look for in a proper romance.
I never, ever saw the daughter aspect at all, even with the age difference. When it comes to relationships, both are mentally brand new, so I don't see a creep factor. Maybe that's a naive point of view but I stand by it in this specific case, as Jack's innocence in these areas override any creepiness that might be there.
Dash_Riprock
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Wow, so pedophilia includes a 70-year-old dating a 20-year-old legal adult.
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