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Scalpers returning PS3s to stores
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nextgeneration
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speculawyer said:
Wow, interesting. I can't wait for December NPD. I'm hoping for a blowout month!
speculawyer
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sonarrat said:
If you want one, head on over there. Toys R Us in Redwood City. Give em' a call if you don't believe me.
BenjaminBirdie
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LJ11 said:
How could they cut the price two months after they launch in the EU? (Actually, did the Xbox do that?)
DreamMachine
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for the people that want a ps3 just look on eBay, there close to retail prices there.
nextgeneration
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BenjaminBirdie said:
I could actually see this happening, assuming PS3 sales slow to a crawl after Christmas. A $500/$600 price point is a very significant amount of money and I am very skeptical that PS3 will sell in large quantities after Christmas, but we'll see....
nextgeneration said:
Don't forget Sony is also selling the PS3 (20gb) for around 430 dollars in Japan. Their movie business had an excellent year, as did their CE division led by Bravia and SXRD lines. The battery and camera recalls hurt, but they are one time losses that can be carried forward and used as tax shields. Sony IMO is in a better position to offer a cut than they were in the past. And we all know MS is going to drop the price on 360 some time in late winter or early spring.
nextgeneration
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LJ11 said:
Yup, Microsoft most definitely will drop the price and when that happens, if 360 sales were to significantly outpace PS3, all the more likelihood that it will force Sony's hand. I'm very curious to see how this plays out next year.
Rhazer Fusion
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I love the way everyone in the world finds stacks and stacks of PS3's that no one wants, yet I haven't seen a single one in my area. Everywhere I go to a store, I hear the same story. As soon as they come in, they sell out almost instantaneously. Maybe they are in more demand in certain states than others?
nextgeneration
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Rhazer Fusion said:
Or maybe some areas are seeing more PS3 stock than others? When I went to Target yesterday, I did not see any PS3's either.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
bengraven said:
Dude. I ****ing *love* your avatar. Where be it from?
Been working at Gamestop this holiday season (in Illinois). We've had about four or five returned, but they're still selling at a good clip when we have them for sale, sold 3 yesterday before 1PM. I'd say the availability is more a credit to Sony restocking well, not returned units.
mashoutposse
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Want to talk about a scalper getting owned? Look at the auctions on this guy's feedback page:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...iid=230069009016&ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us
He bought several systems at $800-1000 expecting a Chirstmas bump and got ****ed. Here's how much one of them sold for:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEDW:IT&viewitem=&item=230069009016&rd=1&rd=1
Now that's some funny shit.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...iid=230069009016&ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us
He bought several systems at $800-1000 expecting a Chirstmas bump and got ****ed. Here's how much one of them sold for:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEDW:IT&viewitem=&item=230069009016&rd=1&rd=1
Now that's some funny shit.
BenjaminBirdie
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mashoutposse said:
DAAAMN. Below retail FTL.
We had someone return a PS3 to the store yesterday. Probably a scalper. Made the guy right behind him very happy though (he genuinely wanted the system). A 60 GB too.
As of yesterday, we were out of:
Wii
DS (they sent us Animal Crossing Blue DS Fat bundles that sold for $150 WTF)
DS Lite (we had at least 30 last week)
PS3
GBA SP (any version, including the FFT Advance bundles that sold for $90 and have been around since 2004 [we had about 20])
All that was left at the end of the night was a shitton of 360 systems, a shitton of PSPs, one PS2, and one Gamecube.
As of yesterday, we were out of:
Wii
DS (they sent us Animal Crossing Blue DS Fat bundles that sold for $150 WTF)
DS Lite (we had at least 30 last week)
PS3
GBA SP (any version, including the FFT Advance bundles that sold for $90 and have been around since 2004 [we had about 20])
All that was left at the end of the night was a shitton of 360 systems, a shitton of PSPs, one PS2, and one Gamecube.
Norse
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AniHawk said:
and when you opened that day you had:
Wii = 0
DS= 12
DS=0 (we had at least 30 last week)
PS3=3 tops
GBA SP=0
2 shittons of 360(must be best buy pyramids)
1 shitton of PSPs
20 PS2
and one Gamecube.
The trick to finding a ps3 is to hit the store within the first hour of opening. But most often they only will have a few. But it seems they get a few in 2 times per week or so right now.
HomerSimpson-Man
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I have yet to see these PS3's myself. So far only my father, mom, and sister have seen one, and it was standing behind a guy in Best Buy who had the last one a few weeks ago.
But just recently my friend saw two of these mythical PS3's a few days ago just sitting there at Circuit City, which nearby parents were contemplating on buying them while standing there just looking at them.
They eventually bought them.
Blows me away how parents can just plunk it down like that on the spot.
But just recently my friend saw two of these mythical PS3's a few days ago just sitting there at Circuit City, which nearby parents were contemplating on buying them while standing there just looking at them.
They eventually bought them.
Blows me away how parents can just plunk it down like that on the spot.
Someone asked the obvious questions of "Why" would Sony want demand to outstrip supply... How about because they shipped with dramatically lower numbers than they had originally intended (which they thought would fly off the shelves) yet there is still enough to meet demand even with the lower shipped number. There is no logical reason that they would be thrilled with this.
Except pretty much all the units you're seeing in stores now are restocked systems from Sony.Sean*O said:
Sony screwed the pooch on launch shipments, but they've done a great job consistently getting units to stores each week to make up for it. Thats more than I can say for Nintendo, at my store we get maybe half the amount of Wiis in a week compared to PS3s.
This is truth...bobbyconover said:I'm guessing most of the people returning their PS3s now aren't the ones who waited in line at launch, but people who bought PS3s more recently in hopes of doing a quick flip. I know a couple of guys who've bought PS3s within the last couple of weeks simply because they happened to be in stores when they had them in stock, not realizing the scalping craze had already died down quite a bit.
Those of us who waited in line sold off that shit on day one, and made a mint.
The only scalpers I have seen recently are people that bought them after launch.
ManaByte
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I saw this happening today at Fry's. I went in to get Superman II on BRD and some other stuff and they were TURNING AWAY PS3 returns. Apparently so many scalpers were trying to return systems that more were coming back today than they sold on day 1 of launch. So many came back today (the day after Christmas) as unwanted "gifts" that the store simply couldn't take that many systems back in as the store would have a massive negative for sales and the manager was telling the scalper thugs to come back another day.
Kusagari said:
says what? I've seen a good number of xbox 360s on the store floor on the 24th. Thatmust say something too.
ManaByte said:
Norse said:
that must have been an awful lot of scalpers returning their system. Let me guess, 20? 50? 100 people returning the PS3. And why would a store turn away an (am assuming unopened) ps3 when they can sell it to the next guy?
neojubei said:
360 isn't in short supply and it's been out for a while now.
If sony has suddenly started shipping massive numbers, then that's a different story... if they are still shipping paltry numbers but they aren't selling very fast, that's pretty bad.
stressboy said:
:lol anihawk works at EB/gamestop.
or you probably knew that.. maybe you were joking too.
sarcasm is a difficult mistress.
Krowley said:
How is that BAD!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh crap here comes GAF logic. No ps3 on shelves, sony isnt shipping enough, sony is DOOM!!!!
Oh noes, there are a few PS3s on shelves for people to buy, sony is shipping a good amount each week. Sony is DOOM!!!!!
In the end, sony is doom, am i right?
ManaByte
Gold Member
neojubei said:
Well there were about 10 or so while I was there. I asked the manager about it (as he was pissed off at scalpers at the Wii launch) and he explained to me that they have had about 20 or so people by noon coming back and he recognized most of them from launch. He said he was turning them away and telling them to come back over the next few days. They could easily resell them (Fry's = Forever Returning Your Stuff), but with all of the post-Christmas returns it was too much for today.
neojubei said:
No... you are thinking it simple terms or you're missing my point.
Is sony actually shipping more? or are people just hesitant to buy a ps3? It could be either one.
If they are meeting demand without increasing shipments... that's pretty bad. It means that even during christmas it is easy to keep up with ps3 demand in it's first few months. From what we know, shipments so far have been very small.
If sony has actualy increased shipping in a big way then that's not something to worry about. If they've put out close to a million ps3's in NA, that could explain everything, but if it's still only a few 100k... There is no way to spin that.
sonycowboy
Member
ManaByte said:
Given that at Fry's you have to have a receipt and give them your Driver's license, how many PS3's did your Fry's get?
20 people returning PS3's in one day, from launch day no less vs how many bought one? Maybe 25? (assuming they got more than absolutely every store I've been to except the district's largest Best Buy).
Sorry, but from where I'm standing you're story is likely full of exaggerated BS. I could be wrong and I don't mean to disparage, but those numbers are ludicrous.
Krowley said:
so if a store gets 10-15 ps3s and about 9-10 are sold in one day but the rest took maybe a week to sell, is that a bad thing? I doubt Ps3 are on the shelf for a few weeks, that too much for a leap even for GAF. My friend has been looking for a ps3 and i have been helping him and i couldn't find one.
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