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"Scary Fast" Mac event announced for October 30th

LordOfChaos

Member
Me: I hope Apple moves to 192 bit busses in M3

Apple: We here you, here's 192 bit in M3....Pro....

Me: Nooooo!

M3 Pro got a few cuts. I wonder if the binned chip is even faster than the full core count bin of M2 Pro. Also only 1 (!) more P core than the M3 in the weird 11 core model. But once you upgrade the base M3 model to 16GB, the M3 Pro model is sitting right there anyways.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
Proof that they last and are worth every penny.

The thing now is they're starting to retire an Intel year every OS year even with no technical barrier, to accelerate that Intel binary drop date. It used to be that there was usually some technical barrier you could find if they dropped something, like lack of a 64 bit GPU kext or something like that, but now they're just accelerating that end date on machines that should be perfectly good to run the latest OS.

Wild to me that some T1 systems and the first Touchbar Macbook Pros are already getting retired.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable

So the actual reason for making these couple of chip bumps that could have be dealt with a press release was to show off iPhone 15 Pro Mad camera.

On that, I wonder if the camera is really any better than what we've had in the last 5 phones we've all had, but they've just run out of ways to show it.

Not to take anything away from the achievement, but it's still professionally lit, edited and graded. It doesn't mean that you can just lift your phone up in a bar and it'll look like Spielberg shot a movie on your night out.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Me: I hope Apple moves to 192 bit busses in M3

Apple: We here you, here's 192 bit in M3....Pro....

Me: Nooooo!

M3 Pro got a few cuts. I wonder if the binned chip is even faster than the full core count bin of M2 Pro. Also only 1 (!) more P core than the M3 in the weird 11 core model. But once you upgrade the base M3 model to 16GB, the M3 Pro model is sitting right there anyways.

The new m3 pro is weird - I wonder if there is any performance uplift over the m2 pro. It feels like they decided the pro was too much of a good deal. As a result you go from 4 P cores to 6 to 10 to 12. The hole between 6 and 10 seems very purposeful.

Also, you can now buy a MacBook Pro that does not have a pro tier chip.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
The new m3 pro is weird - I wonder if there is any performance uplift over the m2 pro. It feels like they decided the pro was too much of a good deal. As a result you go from 4 P cores to 6 to 10 to 12. The hole between 6 and 10 seems very purposeful.

Also, you can now buy a MacBook Pro that does not have a pro tier chip.

And the bottom bin of the M3 Pro only has 1 more performance core than base M3.

I would guess we'll find that the binned M3 Pro lands conspicuously close to full chip M2 Pro performance. Not worse, but not a lot better, except in RT and mesh shading. The full bin M3 Pro will be a bit better than that, and Max is where the real differences show up.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
And the bottom bin of the M3 Pro only has 1 more performance core than base M3.

I would guess we'll find that the binned M3 Pro lands conspicuously close to full chip M2 Pro performance. Not worse, but not a lot better, except in RT and mesh shading. The full bin M3 Pro will be a bit better than that, and Max is where the real differences show up.

Either tsmc yields are abysmal or tim apple got too trigger happy designing the price ladder.

The only purchases that make sense are either the base m3 or the max... if you need a m3 pro i'd buy a m2 pro for cheaper. By the way, the base m3 on the leaked geekbench scores aprox 2,2x over my 4 year old i7-9750h :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

LordOfChaos

Member
Looking like the full bin M3 Pro is the smallest upgrade by far in the lineup, and they went if you really want performance get the Max. That would also mean the binned M3 Pro is likely only trading blows with the full chip M2 Pro.





 
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