Woopah
Member
Why are you pretending there are billions of first party sales?
Seems like most third-party developers will not support Switch 2
I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not saying third party doesn't want to sell on S2, that's what OP is claiming, I'm saying S2 would survive on first party sales alone, but of course extra money from 3rd party sales is always a plus.
Starbuck2907
Member
They'll probably make Switch games and release Switch 2 patches until the install base gets big.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
3rd parties are thanking Nintendo for game key cards, but keep it up with the mental gymnastics.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
I wouldn't dream of buying 3rd party games for this (outside of indies), so a non-issue for me. But also not going to get the system until they release at least a couple of exclusives that just MUST play. Come on Nintendo, make me want your system.
The Xbox ROG will sell as much as the Ally...which is not much.
Poppinfresh
Member
I bought my Switch 2 for 1st and 3rd Party exclusives, same as with my Switch 1.
The exceptions to that rule might be things like the upcoming FFT Remaster and other games where graphical fidelity will look the same on all platforms.
Lunarorbit
Member
Me too with the exception of 1 of the ninja turtles games.
awwr999999
Member
It's actually much bigger than that because Switch consoles are competing against Windows.
Most Switch games and Switch 2 games will run better on Windows via emulation than on native HW.
Emulation is a big selling point for Windows as the ultimate gaming platform and 100% of Nintendos games end up on PC.
Gamerfan81
Member
They will get plenty of support from Japanese 3rd party developers. Bandai, Konami, Capcom, etc.
3rd party support from the West? Probably some late ports and not as supported as Sony.
And that's alright for me. I almost never play western games anyways. Full of politics and social issues. I play games to have fun not be reminded of the real world.
3rd party support from the West? Probably some late ports and not as supported as Sony.
And that's alright for me. I almost never play western games anyways. Full of politics and social issues. I play games to have fun not be reminded of the real world.
awwr999999
Member
Unless you're Nintendo there's no logical reason to.
You can't make a game for Switch 2 without undercutting your Switch 1 sales.
Switch 1 games will work and sell to Switch 2s with no extra work.
Switch has almost the same number of consoles in the wild as the PS2 and they can all buy games online.
Nintendo made Switch 2 to prevent a hypothetical situation where Switch 1 users end up leaving for some other handheld with better specs.
The reality is that as long as a console keeps providing new 3rd party games for users they'll never stop buying games on old HW.
GigaBowser
Banned
/thread?? oohoohoohoo
www.gamespot.com
Call Of Duty Is Still Coming To Switch, Activision Confirms
"We're committed to getting the franchise on Switch."
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Woopah
Member
At the moment I'd say the Japanese support and Western support look pretty similar.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Switch 1 got strong third party support, it just didn't get most western AAA but even Sony and MS published on it lol
Kataploom
Gold Member
I'm mostly looking forward to online F2P games updates, I don't like playing competitive shooters with controller and having another set of M&K in the couch is annoying, so Switch 2 looks way more comfortable for thatI guess people here have very short memories...
Nintendo Reportedly Has 'Three-Phase' Launch Plan for the Switch 2
According to insider reports, Nintendo is planning a three-phase launch strategy for the Nintendo Switch 2 and its initial game lineup.gamerant.com
3rd party floodgates will open up later this year and Nintendo wants to be in control of doing the major announcements. Look forward to a June/July Direct and later a September/October direct. The system litterally just launched 5 days ago. Give the launch titles room to breathe (i.e. play/sell)
LordOcidax
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Kacho
Gold Member
At least until PS6, I definitely think third party support will be somewhat better than the Switch 1, as it's much more capable hardware with less strict storage limitations to work with.
The jump from Switch 1, which was barely above a PS3/360, to the Switch 2, which seems to really be about PS4 Pro level (plus more modern architecture and Nvidia CUDA), is pretty substantial. I'd argue it's a much bigger jump than PS4 to PS5, especially given it also has DLSS capabilities that are already showing it can upscale from pretty low resolutions with minimal problems.
I think more optimized stuff like CoD should have zero issues on S2, definitely toned down visually but I could see it being doable for sure, unlike S1 where even against Xbox One it was just incredibly behind (much less RAM too). I think if anything Nintendo agreeing to stuff like third party accounts and whatnot is going to be the bigger limiting factor for third parties.
The jump from Switch 1, which was barely above a PS3/360, to the Switch 2, which seems to really be about PS4 Pro level (plus more modern architecture and Nvidia CUDA), is pretty substantial. I'd argue it's a much bigger jump than PS4 to PS5, especially given it also has DLSS capabilities that are already showing it can upscale from pretty low resolutions with minimal problems.
I think more optimized stuff like CoD should have zero issues on S2, definitely toned down visually but I could see it being doable for sure, unlike S1 where even against Xbox One it was just incredibly behind (much less RAM too). I think if anything Nintendo agreeing to stuff like third party accounts and whatnot is going to be the bigger limiting factor for third parties.
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This has never been an issue on the Switch
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kaizenkko
Member
Considering that most major third-party games haven't been announced for Switch 2, I feel like I was right.
Unless that changes tomorrow.
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sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
OP hanging on tight
Kacho
Gold Member
Get in here
LordOcidax
we're getting annihilated
LordOcidax
we're getting annihilated
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
We got P3 Reload, Cronos the new dawn, Star Wars Outlaws, new Octopath, Monster Hunter Stories 3, Yakuza and even EA with their sports franchises. Then we got FF7 Remake and Rebirth on the horizon as well as Elden Ring and a brand new third party exclusive in Duskblood. New third party games will come eventually. What's your problem really?
kaizenkko
Member
I have absolutely no problem. When I made this thread, I was simply pointing out a fact: many third-party games announced at events like the Summer Game Fest and June's State of Play didn't have a Switch 2 version revealed — and that clearly indicates the obvious: when it comes to major third-party titles, support will be just like it was for the original Switch.
Games like Resident Evil 9, Monster Hunter Wilds, Beast of Reincarnation, Crimson Desert, Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2, Clair Obscur, and many other current titles (that aren't coming to PS4) simply haven't announced any Switch 2 versions.
But I got absolutely trashed by dozens of delusional fans who believed every third-party game would come to Switch 2, saying nonsense like "devs haven't received devkits yet" or "just wait for the third-party-focused Direct." Well... here we are.
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Mr Hyde
Gold Member
You definitely have a problem. You're butthurt about Switch for whatever reason and now you're cherry picking games so it can fit your little agenda you got going here. S2 is like two months old, not everything can be announced right away. Do you really think that Nintendo and their partners will announce every fucking third party game under the sun right away?
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TheMule1983
Member
Social media and all these fake insiders have ruined expectations for most of these always online people.
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
What a sad fucking loser you are.
Kikorin
Member
You have to be mad if you think RE games will not come to Switch 2, they even come to Switch in cloud lol
Same for KC: D and so one. If Switch 2 can run it, they'll port it, is pretty simple and was the same for Switch 1. Is not like devs wanted to skip 150 millions install base for wathever reason, but some games were simply impossible to port.
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kaizenkko
Member
Go ahead, keep with the ad hominem. But just to remind everyone: I'm the one who's actually butthurt.
kaizenkko
Member
It's a bit tiring to keep repeating this over and over, but I simply pointed out a fact: at the moment, many big third-party games haven't been announced for the Switch 2. That's a fact, not even up for discussion.
And of course, people can use the most absurd arguments possible, but the truth is clear to anyone with a minimum of common sense.
Zacfoldor
Member
I hope you realize this is a long gen and you will eventually be wrong.
Can you not imagine a day in 2 or 3 years when this is bumped and you are shown to be wrong? That day is coming.
Judging by the level of 3rd party support of the Switch 1, you have virtually no chance of being right.
You claim victory after one partner direct under 2 months after launch based on the confirmation bias you proudly gleaned from the partner direct today and hope to get us to eat crow over it before the generation has played out?
LordOcidax
Member
It was obvious a bad show…Get in here
kaizenkko
Member
When that day comes, I will be happy to admit that I was wrong. Until then, I am happy to observe that I was right.I hope you realize this is a long gen and you will eventually be wrong.
Can you not imagine a day in 2 or 3 years when this is bumped and you are shown to be wrong? That day is coming.
Judging by the level of 3rd party support of the Switch 1, you have virtually no chance of being right.
You claim victory after one partner direct under 2 months after launch based on the confirmation bias you proudly gleaned from the partner direct today and hope to get us to eat crow over it before the generation has played out?
Minari
Member
This is nowhere near strong.
EA has 3-4 games for it in this showcase? Fits my definition of strong.
Never was going to get the big PS5/XSX games as a rule of thumb.
BlackTron
Member
You did point out the facts, the events of those game shows.
But it was your take that this fact made the headline of the thread "obvious". Now you are backpedaling using phrases like "at the time..." at the time, smarter people did not think that made lack of support obvious.
kaizenkko
Member
I'm not backing down. I stand by my initial impression and I believe games like Monster Hunter Wilds, Resident Evil 9, GTA VI and many others won't be coming to the Switch 2.
Now, ports of older PS4 games? Definitely.
BlackTron
Member
But your initial impression was not certain cherry-picked games "and others" won't come to Switch 2. Your description of Switch 2 sounds a lot like Switch 1, which we tend to say had third party support in a general sense, despite skipping games out of its league.
Edit: Dragonball Sparking! Zero was just announced for Switch 2. It's a PS5 game. There is no PS4 cross-gen version.
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Danjin44
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I bought Switch 2 for it 1st and 3rd party exclusives, for other 3rd party games like MHWilds and RE9 is the only reason why I still keep my PS5 around (since this gen I lost interest in most Sony's first party games)
Radical_3d
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Giga Bowser was right all along, rest in pieces o7
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