Tizoc
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SEGA AM2 Collection Vol. 1 |OT| Now you can Model 2
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That or we could make a new thread.
Vert boil
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It's more than that. Cannae be arsed to turn on my 360 to check how they are doing the leaderboards but TA is currently tracking 598 people and the site only tracks people that register there.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
The leaderboards are only for 'battle points' or something. It must be multiplayer leaderboards only because I went through Arcade and wasn't on them.
Following up to Patrick's video with the intro from Virtua Fighter 2.1 recorded on my Pioneer Kuro (PS3 version). I love what the conversion team was able to do with this game. It looks absolutely stunning in 1080p.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0MGa8sjo8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0MGa8sjo8c
Yeah, Battle Points are for online RANKED games, and more people are likely to be playing Player Matches or not online at all.
I wonder what a Fighter's Megamix on Model 2 would look like.
Here's a perfect comparison to explain how Fighting Vipers 2 on DC was rushed and missing lots of geometry for stages.
DC
http://youtu.be/4vduiJzOT5A?t=5m2s
Arcade
http://youtu.be/722XVN4Q_uE?t=5m49s
Shameful. Dead or Alive 2 managed lots of geometry well.
Here's a perfect comparison to explain how Fighting Vipers 2 on DC was rushed and missing lots of geometry for stages.
DC
http://youtu.be/4vduiJzOT5A?t=5m2s
Arcade
http://youtu.be/722XVN4Q_uE?t=5m49s
Shameful. Dead or Alive 2 managed lots of geometry well.
Emperor Bohe
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I got a reply from Sega about adding 16:9 support. Everyone that wants it added should contact them as well =D
I got it on XBLA, a few people playing online
what platform are you on?
I got it on XBLA, a few people playing online
what platform are you on?
Seven Force
Banned
Well, they actually came through with the NiGHTS patch. It'd be great if this went through, too.
I had that one!
Thanks for posting these, good to have nice memories on my dashboard.
Diablohead
Member
So first time playing Sonic the Fighters, it plays better then it looks! also after all this time following sonic beta stuff it's really nice of sega to fix up Honey and make her a hidden character, hats off to you!
The VF2 port in Yakuza 5 is not the same as the XBLA/PSN release, in case you didn't already know.
Barkley's Justice
Member
re: patching in 16:9 in a future update, forget it. the sales of these games wont merit the extra work or the re-certification fees, sadly. *maybe* in future model 2/model 3 releases but i doubt that as well.
out of all 3 of these titles, i'd wager sonic fighters has the longest legs. what with its name recognition and all. i'm sure it will garner quite a few curious/impulse buys years to come from people casually browsing and/or looking for sonic stuff.
out of all 3 of these titles, i'd wager sonic fighters has the longest legs. what with its name recognition and all. i'm sure it will garner quite a few curious/impulse buys years to come from people casually browsing and/or looking for sonic stuff.
bodyboarder
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Barkley's Justice
Member
woah, interesting.
there was a moment on shun di's stage, however, where i swore i saw a bit of tearing (360). i have no idea what that means tho.
Damn, didn't think the FV2's port on the Dreacast could be so poor. That doesn't even seem the same arena.
Also, I know it will never happen, but I'd love a Model-2-Collection-level-of-quality edition of the original Dead or Alive.
Must have been Gems 2 then, because I only owned that one.
ResidentDante
Member
Fantastic! I love looking at old stuff like this, I remember the 90's early 3D days so well!
Well I'm glad it's not just me. I don't remember the Saturn version being this hard. Of course it could just be me being an old fart now.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
That comparison just seems to be looking out to sea on the same stage on the DC version? The buildings are there to the right, or am I missing something here? The arcade version also has a point in the fight where the geometry is pretty.. sparse in the background.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I wish I had scans of all my old Official UK Sega Saturn magazine.. their import coverage near the end of its life was righteous. The Saturn was such an incredible underdog in the final throes of its life.
With Daytona USA and the recent AM2 releases it looks like Sega has really nailed Model 2 emulation / conversion on current gen systems. But what's the current state of Model 3 emulation? Videos I've seen on Youtube indicate there is still some work to be done. Are current gen systems powerful enough and is it simply a matter of working out issues with the current Model 3 emulators.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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What I'd really love to see now in terms of Model 2 stuff is a Widescreen arcade perfect Sega Rally port.... Then when/if we ever do get onto Model 3... Virtua Fighter 3, Daytona 2, Sega Rally 2 and Scud Race... It has to be done Sega!!
Yeah, if they give Sega Rally Championship the Daytona USA treatment, I'd be willing to pay 50 bucks for it (not realistic for Sega so the Daytona pricing would be fine too).
Just thinking about it... oh god yes.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Yeah exactly. It's so awesome to see them finally breaking out of this '16bit rom compilation' crap and bringing out the big boys..!
SkylineRKR
Member
Probably won't happen like that. We got Daytona at its god like status because there was already Sega Racing Classic in the Arcades which was Daytona USA on RingWide hardware, boasting native 720p and widescreen. Sega ported this version over.
If SR gets ported, I reckon its the model 2 game and at the same quality as these 3. Which is not bad at all mind you.
If SR gets ported, I reckon its the model 2 game and at the same quality as these 3. Which is not bad at all mind you.
I had forgotten about Sega Rally. Before Daytona USA hit the 360 and PS3 there was the arcade update called Sega Racing Classic. I'm assuming a lot of the emulation / development use there was used in bringing Daytona USA to current gen home consoles (i.e. widescreen was already implemented in the arcade update). Sega Rally hasn't received a similar treatment, but given the number of Model 2 games available it shouldn't be difficult to bring the rest of the library to 360 / PS3 with proper widescreen support.
ResidentDante
Member
Yeah I'd love this too, they could make a few. Collection of racers, fighters and platformers.
SkylineRKR
Member
Sure, I'd probably buy them all. Even Sega Touring Car for its ridiculous sense of speed.
I wonder what games Sega is going to port over next. These are the Model 2 games:
I think you can rule out the third party games (Zero Gunner in particular, Tecmo might be possible seeing VF in DoA5) and Top Skater (TH Ride compatible lol). Seeing as 360 has no lightgun stuff I guess we won't get VC and HotD1 either unless Sega pulls a HotD4 and goes PSN only for those.
So there aren't that many left I think. Hopefully Desert Tank, Last Bronx, Manx, SR and STCC. And then Model 3.
I wonder what games Sega is going to port over next. These are the Model 2 games:
I think you can rule out the third party games (Zero Gunner in particular, Tecmo might be possible seeing VF in DoA5) and Top Skater (TH Ride compatible lol). Seeing as 360 has no lightgun stuff I guess we won't get VC and HotD1 either unless Sega pulls a HotD4 and goes PSN only for those.
So there aren't that many left I think. Hopefully Desert Tank, Last Bronx, Manx, SR and STCC. And then Model 3.
sixteen-bit
Member
Dynamite Cop is probably out too. In the off-chance they do, they'd probably use the DC version.
Gunblade NY was ported to Wii.
SkylineRKR
Member
I think the DC version was identical to the arcade version, with the exception of those butt ugly FMV.
I hated Dynamite Cop, yet I loved Die Hard Arcade.
I hated Dynamite Cop, yet I loved Die Hard Arcade.
U n i o n 0015
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I've gotta have some Model 3. The home ports didn't quite do it justice. I want that arcade perfect VF3!
And Scud Race...drool. Though I doubt we'll get that given the Ferrari license on 360 is in Microsoft's hands. Who knows if Sega wants to spend the money to sublicense it.
SkylineRKR
Member
HotD1 is criminally overlooked. 2 and 3 are whored to death and although 4 was a nice shock release (its one of my most played games of this year I think.. Move still sucks but its better than nothing), its rather weird that the first game has never been released again.
The last time I played HotD1 must've been the arcade game somewhere in 1998 before it was being replaced by the second game. I ignored the Saturn version and PC versions I never cared about.
A VF3 release would be cool anyway, if only for the fact the load times during team battle would be history. It was the sole reason I never played Team Battle mode on DC. Being able to switch between vanilla and TB versions would be nice.
But top of my list are Daytona 2, was addicted to it, and SR2 because that game deserves a good port for once. Mothafucka was huge in Europe!
The last time I played HotD1 must've been the arcade game somewhere in 1998 before it was being replaced by the second game. I ignored the Saturn version and PC versions I never cared about.
A VF3 release would be cool anyway, if only for the fact the load times during team battle would be history. It was the sole reason I never played Team Battle mode on DC. Being able to switch between vanilla and TB versions would be nice.
But top of my list are Daytona 2, was addicted to it, and SR2 because that game deserves a good port for once. Mothafucka was huge in Europe!
Barkley's Justice
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shun di's washing the carpet enota
TheSpoiler
Member
Black screen when I boot up Fighting Vipers. Fuck.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
These, plus SEGA Touring Car Championship. I'm not sure how possible it is to get the rights back for the game's soundtrack, but it deserves a better port than the flawed Saturn version.
xemumanic
Member
Don't discount the possibility because of that. First patch is free if I'm not mistaken, so it could happen. Better to amass a list of bugs/fixes that are needed anyway, maybe they can do them all one time.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Also they patched NiGHTS and I just cant imagine that game sold gamebusters (especially given its already heavily discounted). The best we can do is contact them at the previously listed info in this thread to let them know its something we'd like.
I finally see Sega's devious scheme...why make your own console when you can assimilate the PS3/360 using their network platforms? Looking at my PSN game list you'd be forgiven for wondering why the console doesn't have a big Sega logo plonked on the front.
Am hyped for VF2 and hope we get to see Sega Rally, Touring Cars, Manx TT and Last Bronx at some point. Model 3 needs to happen too, I wonder if they'd ever try and get the rights to re-release the Jurassic Park light gun game; loved it back in the day.
Am hyped for VF2 and hope we get to see Sega Rally, Touring Cars, Manx TT and Last Bronx at some point. Model 3 needs to happen too, I wonder if they'd ever try and get the rights to re-release the Jurassic Park light gun game; loved it back in the day.
Shadow Hog
Member
There is no such thing as "Gems 2". It's just Gems Collection.
You're probably confusing it with Sonic Mega Collection, which came out really early on in the Gamecube's life and only had Genesis games, compared to Gems, which was late into it and had a (rather bad) port of Sonic CD, a (rather good) port of Sonic the Fighters, and a(n actually really good) port of Sonic R. Also had the entire Streets of Rage trilogy and Bonanza Bros. in Japan for some reason, but that got cut in the Western releases, disappointingly (Vectorman and its sequel, meanwhile, remained).
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Let's not even start on the number of System 32 games not yet ported. Rad Mobile, for starters, could use a definitive port: Gale Racer on the Saturn has issues. Then there's stuff like OutRunners, Jurassic Park, and Dark Edge. Same can be said for earlier catalogues from the System 16 era.
I, for one, desperately want to play Cool Riders at home for the first time ever. That game's got no hope, though, because of its unique PCB.
I, for one, desperately want to play Cool Riders at home for the first time ever. That game's got no hope, though, because of its unique PCB.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Some Sega releases are not probable.
Scud Race has licensed cars.
Die Hard Arcade is Die Hard - no go, Dynamite Cop (and PS2 remake) had no license but is Japanese only.
Fighters Megamix is original Saturn release and it's not scalable to HD, it would look like shit
with those assets no matter what. Would take a full remake and we know Sega won't waste money on it to sell 300 copies.
Scud Race has licensed cars.
Die Hard Arcade is Die Hard - no go, Dynamite Cop (and PS2 remake) had no license but is Japanese only.
Fighters Megamix is original Saturn release and it's not scalable to HD, it would look like shit
with those assets no matter what. Would take a full remake and we know Sega won't waste money on it to sell 300 copies.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
lol, Dynamite Cop got localized and shipped to US arcades.
sixteen-bit
Member
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Both Dynamite Deka games came to the States. No biggie, but the names can get confusing.