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[ElTopo]

The regular combo is too weak, forcing you to always use that special spin move and making the game kind of boring.

Aside from that, it's ok.

Unless you were monster rick. The regular combo served a purpose of quick and reliable crowd control. The bigger issue are enemies that randomly bust through your combo.

Cut scenes were so fucking good.

It's weird that this is probably the only game from this era that features pretty extensive cut scenes with photographs of actual people with a creative use of filters.

 

[Piston Hyundai]

It's weird that this is probably the only game from this era that features pretty extensive cut scenes with photographs of actual people with a creative use of filters.

Dark Seed had something similar, and I want to say that there are some pirate games out there that do some live-action stuff too, but I'm not sure what.

 

[mltplkxr]

I read on Sega-16 it was confirmed that there was a small run of HDG Gennys that are TMSS, and even the FCC ID isn't ironclad.

Sorry to interrupt the Splatterhouse convo but I have just confirmed that my Model 1 HG is a TMSS too. The case and FCC ID have all the markings of a non-TMSS model but upon turning it on, the TMSS message appears. Model number is MK-1601-22, for future reference. So that's that. I will proceed to mope for the rest of the day, and will resume my search for the best Genesis. You may resume the Splatterhouse conversation. Thank you.

 

[stewy]

Did anyone get in on the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis: Collected Works?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darrenwall/sega-mega-drive-genesis-collected-works/posts

The cover:

I was lucky enough to be asked to help out with some of the interviews for this book. It's going to be a fantastic resource for all things Mega Drive. I can't wait to see the final product.

 

[Friend of Sonic]

Sorry to interrupt the Splatterhouse convo but I have just confirmed that my Model 1 HG is a TMSS too. The case and FCC ID have all the markings of a non-TMSS model but upon turning it on, the TMSS message appears. Model number is MK-1601-22, for future reference. So that's that. I will proceed to mope for the rest of the day, and will resume my search for the best Genesis. You may resume the Splatterhouse conversation. Thank you.

Aww. Sorry man

 

[BTails]

Cut scenes were so fucking good.

It's weird that this is probably the only game from this era that features pretty extensive cut scenes with photographs of actual people with a creative use of filters.

I posted this exact cutscene on the last page: it really is phenomenal. Just the pictures are terrifying, but it's the music that puts it into nightmare territory.

 

[Slermy]

Did anyone get in on the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis: Collected Works?

Absolutely!

Are Konami Justifiers commonly broken? A while back I got the Lethal Enforcers Sega CD big box with it at Goodwill but it doesn't seem to work, even on a CRT.

I don't know how common it is for them to be broken, but for what it's worth, my one Justifier has terrible calibration.

 

[theSlacker]

Sorry to interrupt the Splatterhouse convo but I have just confirmed that my Model 1 HG is a TMSS too. The case and FCC ID have all the markings of a non-TMSS model but upon turning it on, the TMSS message appears. Model number is MK-1601-22, for future reference. So that's that. I will proceed to mope for the rest of the day, and will resume my search for the best Genesis. You may resume the Splatterhouse conversation. Thank you.

It's not that bad of a thing. If you have an HDG genesis with TMSS you shouldn't ever need to clip a leg to remove jailbars and you still have the best audio.

 

[sixteen-bit]

It's not that bad of a thing. If you have an HDG genesis with TMSS you shouldn't ever need to clip a leg to remove jailbars and you still have the best audio.

Yeah, I have the same model too.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Jailbars still exist on that model; they're just much less pronounced. I own one.

(Shout-outs to the rest of Genesis-GAF who picked up their console during Sonic 2 hype, I guess.)

 

[theSlacker]

Yeah, I have the same model too.

I really would consider it the "best" Genesis version because of the lack of, or less noticeable, visual flaws that the earlier non TMSS versions have.

 

[Fatnick]

Xenon 2 was well known in the Amiga scene back in the day. I didn't realise that it received a conversion for the Megadrive. I'll have to check it out.

Worth noting it was by the Bitmap Brothers, so it came from the same stable as Speedball, Gods & The Chaos Engine. Xenon II was ported to EVERYTHING back in the day - I've got the Master System version around here somewhere (complete with licensed soundtrack and tons of slowdown)

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Jailbars still exist on that model; they're just much less pronounced. I own one.

(Shout-outs to the rest of Genesis-GAF who picked up their console during Sonic 2 hype, I guess.)

I picked up a Genesis when Sonic 1 was a pack-in. Costs me my NES and Gameboy (won from a SMB3 hi-score contest) to get it.
Sold it for a SNES because of Link to the Past.
Sold the SNES due to Sonic 2 hype.

Thankfully my cousin got a SNES not long afterward so I was never tempted to dump the genny for Super Metroid, Secret of Mana, FF3, etc.

Sucked being broke.

Always had a model 1. Not the original "high-definition" model though.

 

[AmyS]

3 days until a month of 25th Birthday celebrations can officially begin!

August 14th: NYC, L.A. -- September 15th: entire USA

Full-length launch commercial, and you'll need some headphones or some way to amplify the sound.

 

[womp]

^ Man, that is a blast from the past! I had that issue.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Happy anniversary Genesis

 

[IrishNinja]

Aw man, we gotta do something for the anniversary! Maybe twitter bomb Kohler with YT links from the current Genesis sound thread with #RobotFarts

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Oh baby! Just noticed two of my games showed up! I wonder which ones they are! :O

 

[Teknoman]

Bahaha I finally got Arcus Odyssey and for like 14 bucks. Soundtrack is nice, and it seems like it would be some co-op fun.

EDIT: What are some good Sega CD homebrew / prototype stuff to check out?

I saw Sonic Megamix, but it doesnt seem like they have the version with the original music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CS9AyAdSjs

Unless I dont know where to get the latest version.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Bahaha I finally got Arcus Odyssey and for like 14 bucks. Soundtrack is nice, and it seems like it would be some co-op fun.

EDIT: What are some good Sega CD homebrew / prototype stuff to check out?

I saw Sonic Megamix, but it doesnt seem like they have the version with the original music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CS9AyAdSjs

Unless I dont know where to get the latest version.

To be fair, it's got the Freedom Planet composer working on it. Which is pretty good, because that game's soundtrack is ace.

On the subject of music, though, man that Genesis music thread was depressing.

"Man, I love Genesis music! Let's celebrate it!"
"Um, actually, robot farts, sound chip is bad, SNES's is way better, truthfact"

 

[Peagles]

"Um, actually, robot farts, sound chip is bad, SNES's is way better, truthfact"

What tracks are people even listening to hear something that sounds like robot farts?

shakes head sadly

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Aww, two of the games I bought don't work. :[
Maybe try alcohol on the contacts?

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

What tracks are people even listening to hear something that sounds like robot farts?

I don't know.

Granted I've been a Genesis-head since forever ago, but it's hard for me to pick out Genesis music that truly sounds awful (or at least like Robot farts).

 

[Piston Hyundai]

I don't know.

Granted I've been a Genesis-head since forever ago, but it's hard for me to pick out Genesis music that truly sounds awful (or at least like Robot farts).

Doom 32X is pretty much the go-to "fart sound" soundtrack. It's like the developers just ported the music raw through GEMS and called it a day.

 

[Shadow Hog]

The Turrican and Universal Soldier soundtracks are tinny as hell, too, and don't have a lick on the Amiga originals. (Mega Turrican, on the other hand, was done by Huelsbeck himself and is one of the best soundtracks on the console.)

 

[IrishNinja]

Polioliolioliolio used this ecco level as an example of robot fart-y but as with most YT stuff i never really know if that's a later sound chip/emulator/etc

 

[ResidentDante]

Happy anniversary Genesis

Reading Console Wars: Sega, Nintendo and the Battle that Defined a Generation now, it's fun to see how Kalinske made the Genesis so popular in the US.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Doom 32X is pretty much the go-to "fart sound" soundtrack. It's like the developers just ported the music raw through GEMS and called it a day.

Oh right. I remember hearing that on the AVGN 32X video.
(Never owned a 32X...or a Sega CD for that matter)

 

[BocoDragon]

I used to be one of the "SNES is objectively better sound" people years ago, but I saw the light about ~5 years ago.

May Yuzo Koshiro guide all lost souls to the light. Amen.

 

[IrishNinja]

oh yeah, thankfully most of my internet talk from the early to mid aughts is basically gone, i was pretty down on sega after the DC collapsed & things went to poop, started buying into the revisionist thing myself too. it wasn't till years later i'd rediscover my childhood favorites & start digging in the crates for more hidden gems, been at it ever since.

 

[televator]

Yeah, the farting thing eludes me too. I'm convinced it's just trendy Nintendo snobery at play. I mean there's a real caveat to Genesis' sound in that it doesn't seem to do voices very well. As far as music though, all that really can be said is that it's different.

 

[Teknoman]

To be fair, it's got the Freedom Planet composer working on it. Which is pretty good, because that game's soundtrack is ace.

Yeah thats why I want that version. The Starry Night Zone track in that video I posted is better than some of the Sonic stuff in modern games.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Aww, two of the games I bought don't work. :[
Maybe try alcohol on the contacts?

I always do that regardless, but sometimes games can die. I've got a couple nes games that refuse to work in multiple systems.

 

[ZealousD]

SNES vs Genesis threads are so stupid. I've resisted the temptation to create a thread asking everybody to STFU about these ancient bit wars.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I always do that regardless, but sometimes game can die. I've got a couple nes games that refuse to work in a multiple systems.

Yeah I'm not so confident it would do much of anything.. the contacts look seriously deteriorated. Huge bummer, had 4 games show up and only 2 of them worked!

Skitchin and Bimini run are duds, but rocket knight adventure and cyberball worked great.

 

[Teknoman]

SNES vs Genesis threads are so stupid. I've resisted the temptation to create a thread asking everybody to STFU about these ancient bit wars.

It'll never die. At some point it'll be the other disc system wars.


Jtwo, use a small bit of brasso and then eraser on the contacts afterward. Fixed my Batman and Robin.

 

[Timu]

In the future I want to get Valis because I heard this song.

 

[AmyS]

I have Console Wars but haven't had time to read it yet. Does it document how Sega absolutely decimated NEC's TurboGrafx-16 in the U.S. ?

TurboGrafx-16 was the early favorite because of NEC's success with the PC Engine in Japan, Sega failure with the Master System, the lack of MegaDrive software in the first half of 1989, the wealth of PCE games in Japan that could brought over to the U.S., etc.?

Sega's full launch in Sept '89 for $10 less than TG-16, with a recognizable arcade hit Altered Beast and the influx of new software only first seen at Summer CES in Chicago in June, coupled with EGM's positive Genesis coverage in issue #3, #4 and especially #8 (TG-16 vs Genesis) all must have helped along with heavier television coverage.

Edit:

I think NEC's only failed attempt to take a swipe at Sega happened in 1990, either at Winter CES, Summer CES, or both. I remember reading in magazines that NEC had been passing out cards to people trying to explain that even though TG-16's CPU was 8-Bit, it had a higher MIPS (millions of instructions per second) rating than the 68000 in Genesis. And also that TG-16 could display more colors on-screen at once.

 

[IrishNinja]

Having recently finished it, I can tell you Console Wars is a good book but the Turbo is sadly a footnote in it, and barely addressed.

 

[AmyS]

Having recently finished it, I can tell you Console Wars is a good book but the Turbo is sadly a footnote in it, and barely addressed.

Ahh, darn.

 

[noquarter]

I had saved up for 6 months (was 10 at the time, so had to use birthday money, along with allowance etc) to get the money for a TG-16. When I finally had the money saved up, talked my dad into going to Toys R Us to get it, he asked how I was going to get any games for it. He called up Phar-Mor (pharmacy that had movie and game rentals) to see if they rented any TG-16 games and was told they didn't, but the did Genesis games. That was why I ended up with a Genesis instead of a TG-16.

Honestly wasn't upset at all, and he was probably right to talk me into the Genesis. Really enjoyed the Genesis back in the day and glad to have the space to set up all my stuff again. Was really good times. But, to this day I still have never seen a TG-16 outside of the box in person.

 

[IrishNinja]

He called up Phar-Mor (pharmacy that had movie and game rentals

Woof, this took me back

 

[sixteen-bit]

Yep, total throwback

 

[ZealousD]

It'll never die. At some point it'll be the other disc system wars.

The 16-bit war is lasting so much longer though. Like you don't see monthly PS1 vs N64 threads where people are spouting crap at each other.

"N64 games look like everything is in a poop fog!"
"Yeah well on PS1 every texture is having an epileptic seizure!"
"Hey guyz let's compare the soundtrack of Resident Evil 2 on PS1 vs N64!"

 

[sixteen-bit]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...get-real-with-new-transformers-figures/.77413

.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Jtwo, use a small bit of brasso and then eraser on the contacts afterward. Fixed my Batman and Robin.

Is Brasso a solvent? I have Gamsol on hand and ready to go right now.

I bought from retrobirdstore FYI. I mean, the whole order was 16$ and they showed up in like 36 hours so I'm not exactly pissed.. but 2 of the 3 games they sent me didn't work on arrival. And its just plain not worth the ~11$ to go through correspondence and return shipping or whatevs so I can't really leave him negative feedback because I'm too lazy to allow him to service my situation.. so I guess I'm just not gonna leave any feedback?

 

[Teknoman]

Is Brasso a solvent? I have Gamsol on hand and ready to go right now.

I bought from retrobirdstore FYI. I mean, the whole order was 16$ and they showed up in like 36 hours so I'm not exactly pissed.. but 2 of the 3 games they sent me didn't work on arrival. And its just plain not worth the ~11$ to go through correspondence and return shipping or whatevs so I can't really leave him negative feedback because I'm too lazy to allow him to service my situation.. so I guess I'm just not gonna leave any feedback?

It is. I think you can use any mild metal polish and you'll be good, but I only know of results from brasso. Even then its a very, very small amount.

http://retrorgb.com/cleangames.html

 

[galvatron]

Mega(drive)tron pics

I'm tempted to get this one...not really feeling the optimus prime.

You'd think they'd have gone with Soundwave for the Genesis with a transforming Altered Beast cart in his chest...

 

[Deleted member 22576]

It is. I think you can use any mild metal polish and you'll be good, but I only know of results from brasso. Even then its a very, very small amount.

http://retrorgb.com/cleangames.html

I'm pretty excited I get to buy a new screw driver thingy to open sega games with.

 

[IrishNinja]

Yep, total throwback

haha i bet we went to the same one as kids, on US-1 i think it was? i'd have to ask my mom next time i'm in perrine