I know we've discussed this alot but it should play just fine with a game genie as a pass through right? Or will it need a code?
Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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I know we've discussed this alot but it should play just fine with a game genie as a pass through right? Or will it need a code?
Wolfenstein 3D ported to the Genesis
I saw a proof of concept for this last year, but I never actually imagined this would go all the way to a feature complete game. Very impressive.
I saw a proof of concept for this last year, but I never actually imagined this would go all the way to a feature complete game. Very impressive.
MoGamesXNA
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Just played it. Damn that's impressive. It runs between 13 to 18fps but I didn't mind when playing, I found it reasonable. You can see the fps when activating the various graphic modes. These graphic modes could be helpful if the framerate was at 60 but with such low framerate it just makes a terribly ugly, jittering screen (you can't see it properly on youtube)
On the video, when he says the lines would blend together, they don't. Not in RGB anyway. You can also save your game at the end of a level, you have a dozen save slots, just like the original DOS version. You can't name them though. The game is vertically challenged because it's a direct port of the DOS version, which like everything DOS didn't run at 320×240 but instead at 320×200 (but still in 4:3 on VGA screens, with rectangle pixels)
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?25663-wolfenstein-3d-demo-for-sega-genesis
On the video, when he says the lines would blend together, they don't. Not in RGB anyway. You can also save your game at the end of a level, you have a dozen save slots, just like the original DOS version. You can't name them though. The game is vertically challenged because it's a direct port of the DOS version, which like everything DOS didn't run at 320×240 but instead at 320×200 (but still in 4:3 on VGA screens, with rectangle pixels)
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?25663-wolfenstein-3d-demo-for-sega-genesis
sixteen-bit
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It plays perfectly with my Megakey (cart adapter with switches for different regions and different systems).
Bar81
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I guess we're not talking about complete copies.
Crusader is 150$ cart only, complete copies are way beyond that price. Which is why PAL or NTSC-J versions are a better alternative (Ragnacenty is completely playable in Japanese, the game is prety easy).
Complete Japanese copies are less than 25$ shipped.
Wolf3D was already old at the time, when the 16bits were around everybody were talking how cool Doom and Duke Nukem 3D were. No one would have bought an ugly ancient computer game when there was much better in the genre, regardless of the technical achievement it would have been. In the end it was all about fun, and good old wolf3D wasn't anymore.
Err
Wolf3D came out 3 years after the Genesis was released and 2 years after the SNES was. There's also an SNES version of Wolfenstein 3D.
As for Doom, it came out at the end of the 16 bit generation, a little less than a year before the PSone and Saturn came out.
Yeah, I even read in Masters of Doom that Carmack himself programmed Doom for the SNES. So I can only guess that maybe Nintendo offered ID more money than Sega?
Shadow Hog
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I'm not sure why you expected it to work in RGB. The vertical line-blending trick was always intended for lesser video signals like composite or RF, where it actually works.
isnt' the mega everdrive the Superior one? I know Irish ordered one recently but not sure if he's gotten it yet, may want to see if he pipes in. Also you can order it directly from the guy who designed it.
http://shop.retrogate.com/
http://shop.retrogate.com/
I'm aware of that, I was just commenting on the video. Especially since he tried with the terribly ugly "TV mode" in Kega Fusion.
Yeh, I just can't grasp why it costs so much more (unlike with the SD2SNES where I understand about the enhancement chips and such). I thought someone here might know. I browsed Retrogate a bit, but they only do a cheapo $5 shipping option and that worries me.
Edit: Looks like the Mega Everdrive bare board is back on Stone Age Gamer.
IrishNinja
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there's good comparisons out, but the mega supports master system & 32X, as well as save states - it's a way bigger jump than super everdrive vs SD2SNES, for me.
i ordered the board only one on a group buy from khzz's shop that gun linked to back there, i wanna say it came to $115 shipped? way cheaper than what stoneage usually wants, and it should be here in the next week or so!
Links? I can't find anything out there that makes it clear, that's why I'm asking here. Even my clone cheapo Everdrive supports Master System and 32x, so I take it the genuine one doesn't? If so that's pretty lol.
I doubt I could find more than a couple of people for a group buy to New Zealand
Links? I can't find anything out there that makes it clear, that's why I'm asking here. Even my clone cheapo Everdrive supports Master System and 32x, so I take it the genuine one doesn't? If so that's pretty lol.
I doubt I could find more than a couple of people for a group buy to New Zealand
You can always try ebay. I bought mine there, got it for 75$ through best offer.
sixteen-bit
Member
Is it legit or a Chinese clone?
I would have to take it apart to figure it out but it does everything the mega everdrive does (SMS, 32X, Savestates, SegaCD region converter, etc)
What the Mega Everdrive can do that the Everdrive MD can't:
Max ROM size of 10MB (instead of 7MB)
Micro SD card slot and SD card slot (Everdrive MD is SD only)
Instant loading
Audio playback
USB port for future features (lol) and homebrew dev
Ingame menu and save states
Game Genie and Action Replay codes (GG only on the Everdrive MD)
That's pretty much it. Also apparently because it's an FPGA on the Mega Everdrive, it allows for future improvements. I have no idea of which sort. People talk about Master System FM sound emulation, others about SVP emulation. Nothing has been confirmed and it's pretty much wishful thinking now.
Max ROM size of 10MB (instead of 7MB)
Micro SD card slot and SD card slot (Everdrive MD is SD only)
Instant loading
Audio playback
USB port for future features (lol) and homebrew dev
Ingame menu and save states
Game Genie and Action Replay codes (GG only on the Everdrive MD)
That's pretty much it. Also apparently because it's an FPGA on the Mega Everdrive, it allows for future improvements. I have no idea of which sort. People talk about Master System FM sound emulation, others about SVP emulation. Nothing has been confirmed and it's pretty much wishful thinking now.
The Mega is mostly for devs, the everdrive is for your everyday use.
Also you're better off getting VR for 6$ on ebay than pay 75$ more just for future SVP emulation.
Thanks for this. I'm not sure there's anything there that justifies double the price for me personally. Max ROM size could be interesting but I'm guessing it still wouldn't play something like Pier Solar? I really just want to play my games without taking carts in and out, so maybe the Everdrive MD is gonna be it for me. I mean, the clone I have works fine, but I want something that is genuine and will stand the test of time.
IrishNinja
Member
yeah, ive read mixed things bout Pier Solar but i hear it works now, i'd like to confirm soon for myself. apparently that one had some copy protection but i think it's cracked now.
save states were a big part for me; not just for ninja-dog mode, but preserving high scores is awesome.
save states were a big part for me; not just for ninja-dog mode, but preserving high scores is awesome.
IrishNinja
Member
actually this question came up on his forum (as some were bothered by having such a clause on their device) and i recall he denied it & said it was copy protection on the game/ROM's part
Benslammin
Neo Member
Just recently beat Beyond Oasis
what a great damn game. A short little adventure with some cool combat and simple but interesting dungeon puzzles.
Also dat sprite work is godlike.
what a great damn game. A short little adventure with some cool combat and simple but interesting dungeon puzzles.
Also dat sprite work is godlike.
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, BO was great. I need to play the Saturn sequel.
IrishNinja
Member
you ordered a reprint too, eh Khaz? that'll be here any day now, no doubt
IrishNinja
Member
shipping bundled with Project Y! TBA Q4 2017
Yeah, BO is amazing. The Saturn game is ok, but nowhere near as good. Worth playing, at least.
IrishNinja
Member
Missed out on Project N and Y
if you find someone who put in $ on an investor copy, they can still buy another copy! that's what i did, on Y at least
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The Mega ED can also function as a save cartridge for the Sega CD. Not sure if the lesser flash cartridges can.
theSlacker
Member
Jesus, and I thought I was waiting a long time with my order going in a year and a month ago.
I will try. Most people seem pretty unhelpful though. Maybe I'll just wait it out.
Well it's not quite two years. But it will be in December-ish...
I think I'm going to get the plain old Everdrive MD. Unless I can get in on a group buy with the Mega Everdrive. Then I can put the remainder toward getting an Everdrive 64. The dream is nearly complete!
IrishNinja
Member
i believe Nintendoage is looking at a possible group buy in october (i went with them on my mega ED), i'm saving up for a Super & N8 boards...if you want, i'll let you know when they're taking orders Peagles!
Ah fuck it I just joined. Been lurking there for too long lol.
At least I could join straight away. I lurked gaf for so many years and I didn't know about the sign up waiting time because my fiance has an account but he made it before activation even existed, so he didn't know either, lol.
baphomet
Member
My activation literally took a year. I lurked just as much through that year as I do now. Probably more even because I could browse at work back then.
It's a shame no one cared about it though. It's a great game that I used to play loads as a kid. I'd love to pick up another copy.
For gaf? Ouch.
Mine was 11 months though I think. Pretty much a year. Glad I stuck it out though!
sixteen-bit
Member
Kinda pissed we never got the Altered Beast and ESWAT Bosses in Gunstar Super Heroes
Even had a softer arrangement of that cool boss theme for ESWAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKC-1ZhrTE
more here:
http://tcrf.net/Gunstar_Super_Heroes
Even had a softer arrangement of that cool boss theme for ESWAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKC-1ZhrTE
more here:
http://tcrf.net/Gunstar_Super_Heroes