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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe

Awakened

Member
You're not. GSH is definitely the better of the two games.
I like GSH, but it has one big downgrade for me. They replaced the throw with a knife attack. In GH, grabbing bombs out of the air and hitting mid air enemies with them feels so good. There's those guys riding floating platforms in level 5 that you can throw to one hit kill, which is also great. The knife in GSH isn't nearly as good.
 

v1perz53

Member
I watched a video the other day that showed how to open up a genesis and controller and deep clean it, and it made it seem fairly simple so I gave it a shot. Ended up being way easier than I expected and I've never seen my genesis look this good. There are so many parts of the genesis that are like a very thin inset in the plastic where dirt can get caught, and it was nice to clean those. Same with the controller, though nothing I do can get some of the dirt out of the letters on the buttons. Years of dead finger skin I guess. Kind of wish I had before/after pictures because the difference is staggering.

Also on an unrelated note, is there a good complete list of games anywhere that makes use of the extra buttons on the 6 button controller? I've found a few but most are missing games I know made use of the buttons (like primal rage). Thinking of getting a 6 button controller, and was curious if it would actually have an effect on my games. Also, do people generally prefer the 1653 or 1470 6 button? I remember people mentioning a better D-pad on one but I can't remember.
 
I like the MK-1470. I don't worry about what games use the extra buttons because it's the only one I use exclusively. Off the top of my head, Street Fighter CE, Comix Zone, Pier Solar, Ranger X& Mega Turrican 6 button is a must.
 
Halfway through a new run through the Sega version of Shadowrun...

Still one of the best non-linear RPGs to date, as far as I'm concerned. Especially for a 1994 game. I've barely even fired a bullet the entire game so far -- pure hacking run. The couple events that had a fight, I just paid some hired guns for a few minutes.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Also on an unrelated note, is there a good complete list of games anywhere that makes use of the extra buttons on the 6 button controller? I've found a few but most are missing games I know made use of the buttons (like primal rage).
I dunno, but here's a partial list:

36 Great Holes
Aerobiz Supersonic
After Burner Complete
Art of Fighting
Batman Forever
Battle Mania 2
Beyond Oasis
Contra Hard Corps
Cyber Brawl
Davis Cup
DOOM
Dragon Ball Z Buyuu Retsuden
Dyna Brothers 2
Eternal Champions
Fatal Fury 2
Fatal Fury Special
Greatest Heavyweights
Maximum Carnage
MIG-29
Might and Magic III
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II
NFL Quarterback Club '95
Nightmare Circus
Power Instinct
Ranger-X
Samurai Spirits
Shadow Squadron
Shin Megami Tensei
Star Wars Arcade
Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition
Streets of Rage 3
Super Street Fighter II
TechnoClash
The Lost Vikings
True Lies
Virtua Racing
Virtua Racing Deluxe
Wing Commander
WWF Mania Tour
Yu Yu Hakusho Makyo Toitsusen
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Also on an unrelated note, is there a good complete list of games anywhere that makes use of the extra buttons on the 6 button controller?

http://www.mobygames.com/attribute/sheet/attributeId,191/p,16/

Also, do people generally prefer the 1653 or 1470 6 button? I remember people mentioning a better D-pad on one but I can't remember.

The 1653 is better. The D-pad on it is nearly the same as the D-pad on the Model 2 Sega Saturn controller (aka the Japanese Saturn controller). So it's in the running for the best d-pad of all time, especially for fighting games.
 

Khaz

Member
Figured. I feel like I've searched before and found several for like $35-$50. I guess there just aren't any listed at the moment.

Depends on what you want them for, but manufactured new ones with added FM sound can be had for like $60, or cheaper without FM if you want the original western experience.

Directly from the author, or on resellers like stoneagegamer.com or retrogame.co.uk
 

Slermy

Member
While I'm in the US, I've always wanted to play a Probotector version of Contra. Does anyone know if the Mega Drive one will play nicely in a US Genny?
 

CptSlow

Neo Member
While I'm in the US, I've always wanted to play a Probotector version of Contra. Does anyone know if the Mega Drive one will play nicely in a US Genny?

Afraid not. It seems to be region locked to Pal only. When I put my modded Megadrive in US mode it just gives me a frozen Konami splash screen.
 
Eurogamer posted an article on the excellent (and expensive!) MD version of Slap Fight, and it includes an interview with the developer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-12-death-from-above-the-making-of-slap-fight-md

I love these more obscure games getting attention and hearing the history of how they came to be, much like the Surgical Strike CD32X article from a few pages back.

Also, i did a new video on Sega CD Sports games because i am a crazy man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLm_ivz0fq4
 

v1perz53

Member
I'm having a weird video issue with my Genesis (model 2 NTSC) and I was wondering if anyone knew what was going on. I normally play my retro consoles on a Trinitron CRT, but as I think I've mentioned, I had to put it in storage for now until I get a bigger place. Anyway, been playing my Genesis on my 50" HD TV in the meanwhile, and for most games I get this strange colored border around the game, and the game is always off center, with more of the border visible on the right. You can see what I mean in this picture (sorry for the shit quality):

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As you see, there is a light blue border which is wider on the right. This happens both with the RF adapter and a composite cable, don't have any better way of hooking up to this TV right now.

It doesn't happen with every game (or some use a black border and I don't notice it), is this something normal or does anyone know what is going on? It doesn't bother me too much, but I do wish it was an even border on the right and left, that can get distracting. I don't recall ever noticing this on my CRT but who knows, its been a while.
 
I'm having a weird video issue with my Genesis (model 2 NTSC) and I was wondering if anyone knew what was going on. I normally play my retro consoles on a Trinitron CRT, but as I think I've mentioned, I had to put it in storage for now until I get a bigger place. Anyway, been playing my Genesis on my 50" HD TV in the meanwhile, and for most games I get this strange colored border around the game, and the game is always off center, with more of the border visible on the right. You can see what I mean in this picture (sorry for the shit quality):



As you see, there is a light blue border which is wider on the right. This happens both with the RF adapter and a composite cable, don't have any better way of hooking up to this TV right now.

It doesn't happen with every game (or some use a black border and I don't notice it), is this something normal or does anyone know what is going on? It doesn't bother me too much, but I do wish it was an even border on the right and left, that can get distracting. I don't recall ever noticing this on my CRT but who knows, its been a while.

That's overscan. Old CRTs would normally be adjusted so that it is cut off, but it is part of the image that was always there.
 

v1perz53

Member
That's overscan. Old CRTs would normally be adjusted so that it is cut off, but it is part of the image that was always there.

Ah, that is what my GoogleFu was telling me. I was just confused why it doesn't happen with my NES, SNES, or N64 connected via composite, though I guess it could just be disguised differently and I don't notice it.
 

BTails

Member
How much better is the Japanese 6-Button Megadrive controller over the North American 6-Button Genesis pad? My 6-button recently broke, and I'm looking to get it replaced, wondering if Japanese is the way to go. I heard it has a different D-Pad, which intrigues me as I'm not a huge fan of the standard Genesis d-pad
 

Mzo

Member
Ah, that is what my GoogleFu was telling me. I was just confused why it doesn't happen with my NES, SNES, or N64 connected via composite, though I guess it could just be disguised differently and I don't notice it.

Different systems have different resolutions. Even if you stretch and shrink and perfectly fit one console's output to your CRT, another one will be too far left or too small or too big.
 
Different systems have different resolutions. Even if you stretch and shrink and perfectly fit one console's output to your CRT, another one will be too far left or too small or too big.

More then that, even different games will be set up differently. Like Squaresoft games on the PS1 may have just a big black gap at the bottom of the screen on a properly configured CRT. It is maddening.
 

Slermy

Member
Afraid not. It seems to be region locked to Pal only. When I put my modded Megadrive in US mode it just gives me a frozen Konami splash screen.

Thanks for the response.

I do have a Game Genie and Mega/Magic key, so hopefully I could still try it.
 
The colour border was more annoying in PAL land because it would fill the extra lines of a pal signal that colour along the top and bottom, so everything was letterboxed.

Probably why I adjusted to widescreen so easily :p

At least some games made that border black instead of bright blue/green/red or what ever was used by other developers in their games.
 

Khaz

Member
Eh, there is almost no ratio difference between widescreen and crunched non-optimised games. I remember using the zoom function of my widescreen TV to play PAL Virtual console games on the Wii and losing almost no picture.
 

v1perz53

Member
For me the thing that really sells Streets of Rage for me is the music. I cannot imagine a more perfect and amazing soundtrack to absolutely define hours of two player co-op with my brother as kids. With some "god damn it let go of my head! Ugh you're hitting me! No you take right I take left!" mixed in.
 

Timu

Member
For me the thing that really sells Streets of Rage for me is the music. I cannot imagine a more perfect and amazing soundtrack to absolutely define hours of two player co-op with my brother as kids. With some "god damn it let go of my head! Ugh you're hitting me! No you take right I take left!" mixed in.
That too, hell I liked the music in all 3 games, yes, Streets of Rage 3 even.
 
Does anyone have a nice cover that I could use on my single DVD case holding both translated copies of Game no Kanzume Vol1&2? thecoverproject and google image failed me.
The actual Japanese versions come in round metal cans, each in a clear plastic box. So yeah, I have no idea what cover art would look like... ("Kanzume" means "Can". Games Can, and they come in a metal can! Heh.)

I actually have both of the Japanese versions. They're pretty neat looking. One is a blue can, and the other red. The fronts are clear, showing the front of the can with the name written on the can itself, while the backs have a picture and some text for each game on the disc on a paper insert that only covers the back and end label.
 

Mercutio

Member
Oh man, have people played Trouble Shooter? I just got a copy on the cheap with the box, and I'm totally into this. I love shooters with this sort of quirky sense of humor, and the option-side-swap shooting mechanics are so good. It reminds me a lot of Magical Chase in some ways, which is my all-time-favorite shooter. This isn't as colorful or as well designed, but it's a hell of a good time.

Shame about the box art though.

Troubleshooter_md_us_cover.jpg


What was Vic Tokai ever thinking?
 
Oh man, have people played Trouble Shooter? I just got a copy on the cheap with the box, and I'm totally into this. I love shooters with this sort of quirky sense of humor, and the option-side-swap shooting mechanics are so good. It reminds me a lot of Magical Chase in some ways, which is my all-time-favorite shooter. This isn't as colorful or as well designed, but it's a hell of a good time.

Shame about the box art though.

Troubleshooter_md_us_cover.jpg


What was Vic Tokai ever thinking?

Anime was just too taboo at the time.
 
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