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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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IrishNinja
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doesn't that have only composite? i forget, but yeah bubble be damned, that seems high
Those controllers were built to last. The rubber membrane is like a half inch thick, it just doesn't deteriorate like in controllers these days.
CDX supports the same RGB cable as the Genesis model 2, same output. I have a Sega CD with the Genesis Model 2 but I like the more compact and less unwieldy design of the CDX, more handy to keep out and store.
The few CDX units on eBay and Amazon marketplace are well over $200.
sixteen-bit
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I think the Laseractive with Genesis PAC and the Genesis 3 are the only hardware configurations that top out at composite. Even the OG Wondermega at least does S-Video.
SonicMegaDrive
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If it has the original AC Adapter, I say bite. If not, hunting one of those down might cost you a bit.
sixteen-bit
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I've never heard of that. Maybe it's a weird prototype or Brazillian release. I can't even find pics of one like that on the internet.
Has anyone here ever managed to get every chaos emerald in Sonic 1? I recently picked up a Megadrive again with a few games and I cannot for the life of me do it. I always fuck up in one way or another.
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
You don't really have an excuse for Sonic 3 or S3&K when you have save files.
My excuse is that I never owned them and only ever played them at friends houses! I do intend to buy them all though so that will be corrected.
Has anyone here ever managed to get every chaos emerald in Sonic 1? I recently picked up a Megadrive again with a few games and I cannot for the life of me do it. I always fuck up in one way or another.
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
I've done it at least once and I saw a friend do it earlier this year. The original Sonic is the hardest for sure, but I've done it for every Sonic game that I've played.
Has anyone here ever managed to get every chaos emerald in Sonic 1? I recently picked up a Megadrive again with a few games and I cannot for the life of me do it. I always fuck up in one way or another.
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
I just recently decided to finally beat the original sonic after always failing during labyrinth zone as a kid (always died cause I thought you had to kill robotnik not just survive the ascent!). Ended the game with 5 out of the 6 chaos emeralds you need for the good ending, out of the possible 8 you can get which was a little frustrating. Certainly never came close to getting all 8. The bonus stages in Sonic 1 are pretty terrible, though they do fill me with nostalgia. Mostly confusion though, especially when you actually pay attention to how weird the backgrounds are.
Other than that I've gotten all of them in Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, doing the latter before I owned Sonic 3 and thus no save slots, so I am fairly proud of it. First time doing so as a kid and realizing Super Sonic was a thing was awesome.
theSlacker
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Has anyone here ever managed to get every chaos emerald in Sonic 1? I recently picked up a Megadrive again with a few games and I cannot for the life of me do it. I always fuck up in one way or another.
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
Practice the bonus stage by using the stage select code and resetting after beating it every time. You will even retain your emeralds and move onto the next stage every time you complete one and reset I think.
Shadow Hog
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I've done it, but Sonic [1] is probably the hardest game to do it in, seeing as you've got significantly more finite chances to do it in (only in Act 1 and 2 of the first five Zones - I don't think the Bonus Rings show up in Scrap Brain Zone at all - for a total of ten tries at six special stages total), and the Special Stages themselves are some of the hardest in the series.Has anyone here ever managed to get every chaos emerald in Sonic 1? I recently picked up a Megadrive again with a few games and I cannot for the life of me do it. I always fuck up in one way or another.
In fact, I don't think I've ever managed to get every chaos emerald in any Sonic game
Sonic 2 still has a finite amount of chances, but given that every checkpoint is a new chance at whatever Special Stage is stymieing you (and that there are a lot more than ten checkpoints in the entire game) and that the Special Stages are a bit easier to cope with, it's a lot more forgiving all around. Not as forgiving as Sonic 3 & Knuckles, of course, what with its infinite attempts allowed thanks to New Game+, but still pretty lenient. (Sonic & Knuckles on its own, though, can get pretty tricky, since you have to do it one go, Flying Battery only has 4 well-hidden Bonus Rings in its entirety (and I've only ever found 2-3 of them!), and no Bonus Rings appear at all after Lava Reef.)
Sonic [1] only has six emeralds, not eight. I know the mobile port added a seventh to the mix (complete with its own unique stage and unlocking Super Sonic), but even then you have to do a cheat to even enable it.
No I meant how many chances you have to get the 6 emeralds when I said 8, as in you can fail the special stage (or not have the 50 rings for it) twice and still get all 6. Though I did miss-count and it is actually 10 chances to get the 6 emeralds as you said in your post.
It does have the original AC adapter. I ended up getting it when I used store credit to knock $90 off the price. $110 for a CDX is a damn good deal, AND I'll be able to use my Genesis 2 RGB cables with it. Snatcher in glorious RGB...
Aw yiss. Stopped by the flea market again and the guy I've been haggling with for the past few weeks is apparently closing up shop. He doesn't have a lot left but he gave me a 'high definition graphics' model 1 genesis for 15 bucks - he didn't know if it worked or not and it's pretty dirty. I wanted it for parts one way or the other, the sega CD expansion cover is missing on my other model 1 and it was driving me nuts. Guess what? Works great. It's actually in very good shape despite the dirt, which won't be hard to clean off with a toothbrush etc.
Now that I've got two of these I'm gonna start looking into RGB mods. Roommate is an electrician and actually has volunteered to do it if I can find a decent tutorial for him.
Now that I've got two of these I'm gonna start looking into RGB mods. Roommate is an electrician and actually has volunteered to do it if I can find a decent tutorial for him.
theSlacker
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That doesn't actually need to be modded for RGB. Just got to get the right cables and tv set to utilize it. Only mod type things for an early model like that would be fixing it if it has noticeable jail bars, and possibly moving stereo to the back, but that isn't even needed. Grats on the pick up.
Okay...after some research I need a SCART cable and then something that turns it into component to go to my TV? That beats soldering and dremel work.
Sadly it seems there's a problem with the audio on the genesis I just picked up - I opened it and it's a VA2. It was very noticeable on Ice Cap Zone of sonic 3, kind of a crackling/staticy problem with the music. Thunder Force 4 sounds fine though so I'm confused.
I'm guessing it's the capacitors? Replacing the caps sounds like...not fun, but at least it'd be a cool project. I've also heard that some systems have problems with the front audio jack, could that be the culprit?
For now I'll just use my other one, which sounds great. The TMSS notification at the start doesn't bug me much.
Wow, that looks way better than I thought it would.
The ONLY one I've done it in is Sonic 1... I guess I find the stages easy enough to always have 50-60 rings on hand at the end of a Zone.
Sonic 2 always seemed like the hardest, since after the first couple Zones, I find it hard to have enough rings for the checkpoint. Plus Tails screws up your mojo in the later bonus stages by getting hit all the time. I think I collected them all once, then didn't even beat the game.
Gunstarheroes
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Time Gal is fun, honestly. Though for having all the different time periods, the early BC ones are all basically jungles and dinos.
For me in Sonic 1 the problem isn't having the rings to unlock the Special Stage, it is actually beating the damn things. I just feel like I have such little control in those stages, and like 1/3 of the time I randomly plummet to the red area and lose. Even when playing them well, you can't always overcome the stages with skill, sometimes you are just in a position and the stage is rotating in a way such that you can't avoid losing.
Personally I (and I'm sure most people) find Sonic 3 and Knuckles special stages to be the easiest, as they don't require any number of rings to enter and winning the stage is purely based on your own skill and reflexes. It is rare these days for me to play Sonic 3 and not get all the emeralds.
This happens to me a lot as well although when I went through the special stages last night using the level select code I beat them all first time....
Piston Hyundai
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I was wondering when this was going to be moved to Community.
Prototype of a canceled Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures port has been sold on eBay
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Indiana-Jone...711?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf9410cff
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Indiana-Jone...711?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf9410cff
sixteen-bit
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I hope it went to someone cognizant of game preservation.
moltonasty
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So what's considered the best/cheapest way to get old Genesis games.. Ebay, craigslist, flea markets?
sixteen-bit
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Cheapest have probably got to be yard sales from folks who just want the junk out of their house. Gotta put in hella legwork tho.
I did some further testing and the audio problem in my VA2 is VERY noticeable in contra hard corps' first level theme. Extremely scratchy and awful. Also, if I turn down the volume I still hear the scratching - my other Genesis doesn't have that issue.
I ordered a capacitor kit - this Genesis is 26 years old so replacing them probably wouldn't hurt. Would really suck if I went through all that and the audio was still messed up. Not too worried about doing the work as my roommate is an electrician, so if I chicken out I can get him to help.
In my experience ebay and flea markets are tough because those people actually look up what things are worth. I've had some success at flea markets but it took a lot of haggling and one of the places I go to was closing down. I will admit I have a lot of fun trying to get deals out of those guys.
Kijiji/craigslist is what got me most of my current Genesis games. Have had very little luck with yard sales.
I ordered a capacitor kit - this Genesis is 26 years old so replacing them probably wouldn't hurt. Would really suck if I went through all that and the audio was still messed up. Not too worried about doing the work as my roommate is an electrician, so if I chicken out I can get him to help.
In my experience ebay and flea markets are tough because those people actually look up what things are worth. I've had some success at flea markets but it took a lot of haggling and one of the places I go to was closing down. I will admit I have a lot of fun trying to get deals out of those guys.
Kijiji/craigslist is what got me most of my current Genesis games. Have had very little luck with yard sales.
You can play as Sonic only(or Tails only) which makes that special stage problem a none issue. Also the ring count you need to progress is less if you don't have Tails with you. I think having both in that stage is designed for two player really.
Sonic CD I find the hardest as I just cant judge the jumps into the UFOs with that sprite scaling or whatever its doing. Reminds me of the Sonic Advance special stages which also have issues with depth perception.
This belongs in a museum!!!!..... After it gets dumped and released online.
Yeah, this is how I did it once upon a blue moon. I remember it was extremely UNFUN playing the game as just Sonic and moving at a snail's pace through the stages to have enough rings for each checkpoint as the Special Stages get very hard later on, to the point where you basically need to memorize them.
Shadow Hog
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Well, I mean, to a degree, getting good at any game comes down to memorization...
Still, as far as Sonic 2 goes, I'm not usually getting hit often enough that holding onto 50 rings is an issue. (Except Metropolis, because screw Metropolis.)
Still, as far as Sonic 2 goes, I'm not usually getting hit often enough that holding onto 50 rings is an issue. (Except Metropolis, because screw Metropolis.)
It's less of second per second memorization and more of a familiarity with the environment. Like the way you're not going to bump into stuff running through your own living room (unless someone moved some shit!)
This isn't about BTails at all, but on a tangent this is the thing that pisses me off the most about Sonic detractors (Pre Rec, Leigh Alexander, etc.) They all say the same dumb crap about speed and how they couldn't react fast enough and isn't it funny that they had to be slow to be successful. Well, no shit. Guess what, the first time I played any of these stages I did so slowly while exploring. The speed in Sonic is a reward for knowing the levels. Hell, you barely even have to know the levels. I'm sorry that video games as a hobby demand a minimum bar of effort and ability, but it's true.
These games weren't meant to be played through once and shelved forever. You're supposed to enjoy playing them, discovering secrets, and watch yourself improve at playing the damn game. That's where most of the real fun comes from. It's not a one-time experience like a goddamn movie. So you got hit by an enemy once. Big fucking deal, you didn't die. That's what rings are for. Don't get hit by the same enemy next time and now you're better than you were before.
Makes me mad.
This isn't about BTails at all, but on a tangent this is the thing that pisses me off the most about Sonic detractors (Pre Rec, Leigh Alexander, etc.) They all say the same dumb crap about speed and how they couldn't react fast enough and isn't it funny that they had to be slow to be successful. Well, no shit. Guess what, the first time I played any of these stages I did so slowly while exploring. The speed in Sonic is a reward for knowing the levels. Hell, you barely even have to know the levels. I'm sorry that video games as a hobby demand a minimum bar of effort and ability, but it's true.
These games weren't meant to be played through once and shelved forever. You're supposed to enjoy playing them, discovering secrets, and watch yourself improve at playing the damn game. That's where most of the real fun comes from. It's not a one-time experience like a goddamn movie. So you got hit by an enemy once. Big fucking deal, you didn't die. That's what rings are for. Don't get hit by the same enemy next time and now you're better than you were before.
Makes me mad.
moltonasty
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I guess I'll keep my eyes open for some good craigslist deals in that case.
Are there any good Genesis modders here or recomendations on GAF? Looking to get some work done on my Genesis 3. Probably not a difiicult job, but certainly above my skill set.
Are there any good Genesis modders here or recomendations on GAF? Looking to get some work done on my Genesis 3. Probably not a difiicult job, but certainly above my skill set.
Ouch, you're killing me Mzo! I definitely would not consider me a Sonic detractor, and I agree with you 100%. Heck, I beat Battletoads on the NES, and if that isn't a game of memorization, I don't know what is!
My issue comes with memorization of the Special Stages specifically in Sonic 2. The later ones have some patterns that, even if you don't get hit by bombs, you're not going to have enough rings until you play them 2-3 times. The fact that you have to: A) Have to beat earlier stages in order to get to those later ones, and B) Have to have enough rings in later, harder stages, to play those special stages, makes it hard to "git gud".
That being said, I love the Special Stages in Sonic 2... They're probably my favourite, and I loved when they made their return in 3D Blast on Saturn (arguably even more fun in that game, though much easier).
Damn good pick ups!!!
sixteen-bit
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Yesterday I decided to put Hard Corps in for funsies and had a blast. Based Nobuya Nakazato.
Gunstarheroes
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Prototype of a canceled Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures port has been sold on eBay
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Indiana-Jone...711?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf9410cff
We know who has it, this game actually caused a big thing over at NintendoAge between the buyers (The Nolan Brothers, decently know Repro makers) and Piko (Who has a bunch of unreleased Genesis IP rights). Nolan Brothers already said it won't be dumped by them
sixteen-bit
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I'm probably not the best person to ask since I don't particularly like Sonic games, but I'd put Sonic 1 in 2nd place behind only S3K. It's a real interesting game to play due to the absence of the spin-dash, and the homie Masato Nakamura knocked it the fuck outta the park w/that soundtrack.
blast processed
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Mine is
Sonic 2
Sonic 1
Sonic 3/Knuckles
Sonic CD <----Hated this game
I like Sonic 2 a lot & don't mind Tails even though everyone else does. I always laugh when he's left behind and dies. He doesn't bother me on special stages because I could care less about the chaos emeralds.
Sonic 2
Sonic 1
Sonic 3/Knuckles
Sonic CD <----Hated this game
I like Sonic 2 a lot & don't mind Tails even though everyone else does. I always laugh when he's left behind and dies. He doesn't bother me on special stages because I could care less about the chaos emeralds.
Insane? No. At those prices, for MIB, it's just common sense.
Not really a fan of Y's, Traysia, Truxton, or Robo Aleste, but I can't deny that they're still nice gets!
I still want to 1CC that game someday!!!
Bolded statement a million times over. It boggles my mind how many people do not understand this. Maybe today with how things are you play through a game once and then never again, but back then games were designed to be re-played over and over, and Sonic was perfect for that since as you got better it felt like you were playing a different game because you could go so much faster, really satisfying.
And even ignoring now vs then, the point still stands. The levels aren't bad if you go slow, people just have a preconceived notion that Sonic has to be fast at all times or it isn't fun. But the levels are still fun platforming when going slower too, they are just even better when you know them a bit and can speed through them.
Sonic 2
Sonic 1
Everything else (I never got too into any of the others)
Sonic 2 is one of my favourite platformers of all time. It's the type of game I boot up and run through from time to time just to unwind.
IrishNinja
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Mzoes puttin on a clinc for Sonic games
yeah ive done part 1 several times, found it easier than 2 (the only one ive yet to get them all in to this day)
oh man that took some getting used to, yeah
i mean, to each their own, but that attitude is kinda trash to me
yeah ive done part 1 several times, found it easier than 2 (the only one ive yet to get them all in to this day)
oh man that took some getting used to, yeah
i mean, to each their own, but that attitude is kinda trash to me