And you guys think that would worth for 10 days countdown? Really? They may troll but they are not stupids
SEGA teases Bayonetta + Steam, countdown to April 11
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GhostTrick
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If this was an out-of-the-blue countdown, absolutely. But burying some Bayonetta non-news for a countdown that ends over a week from now in a Steam achievement is a bridge too far even for Sega. People would be pissed, rightfully, and I'm sure Sega Europe gets enough port requests in their lives from sweaty Platinum nerds to know what kind of ire that would draw.
I think it may be the other way around, they're stupid but not trolls. xd
On the contrary, I'd like to think Sega Europe has a sense of humour, especially considering this on April fools. I hope they look at this thread and troll further before actually announcing Bayo for Steam officially.
SmokedMeat
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They buried the Bayonetta countdown link on a Steam achievement from a Steam based Bayonetta game to reveal a Nintendo toy?
That makes sense to you?
GhostTrick
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The way PSO2 was handled in the west and following up Valkyria Chronicles with Sonic Lost World, SEGA in general does alot of stupid things, but I haven't seen them doing mean spirited troll announcements.
That's what I mean by them being stupid but not trolls.
EDIT: Well, stupid is a poor choice of word though, I guess a bit dumb would be better.
ArtHands
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But the former thread title worded it as if the fire is already spotted. We only saw the smoke
Why not? Its not weird for a company to release something to promote something else on another platform.
Not saying it not happening at all, but to hold back some of the hype until thing is official
Majukun
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again,the situation regarding those 2 games is not the same at all.
that's what i said,they don't own the trademark of bayonetta,so they can't,say, sell the license to do a bayonetta anime, but they own bayo 2 and the rights to do what they want with that game, sega just licensed the franchise.
I don't think the releases are related at all. I think Lost World came to Steam simply because they could and wanted to recoup some money. It seems probable that the work was started on that prior to Valkyria on Steam anyway.
What's the difference? Nintendo published both games, funded both games, held publishing rights to both games. Difference is that WBIE decided to buy back rights to the game code and publishing, whereas Sega didn't for Bayonetta 2. Starting point was the same.
The user I quoted claimed that Nintendo co-owns the Bayonetta 2 trademark, which isn't true. You replied to that.
Well, together with Lost World they announced that more consoles to PC ports would happen, after almost 1 year and half looks like we'll finally see something, so at the very least teasing future ports with nothing to show for this long was dumb, I guess?
Majukun
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bayo 2 is under trademark of nintendo and sega
lego city ispublished by tt games under license by the lego group with nintendo's assets used under permission
it is indeed true,bayonetta 2 trademark cites both nintendo and sega,contrary to lego city where nintendo is cited only for the uses of assets
Nintendo owns Bayonetta 2 whereas it never owned LCU. Nintendo published the game, yes, but WB retained ownership of the product, which is why it now has publishing rights (they default to the copyright holder after a period of time).
ArtHands
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Thats not totally impossible
I mean, strictly speaking, you're correct, but it's about as likely as cutting a steak in half with a spoon.
I mean it's all cool people want Bayonetta 2 on PC but what I'm rather hoping is that Bayonetta PC port does so well Sega West seriously considers bringing Platinum back for a third game.
Company has recovered from their bomba period, localising everything under the sun and trying their hardest with critically acclaimed titles. Yeah yeah let me dream
Company has recovered from their bomba period, localising everything under the sun and trying their hardest with critically acclaimed titles. Yeah yeah let me dream
SmokedMeat
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CadetMahoney
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Bayo 3 PC exclusive plox.
PdotMichael
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I mean it's all cool people want Bayonetta 2 on PC but what I'm rather hoping is that Bayonetta PC port does so well Sega West seriously considers bringing Platinum back for a third game.
Company has recovered from their bomba period, localising everything under the sun and trying their hardest with critically acclaimed titles. Yeah yeah let me dream
I don't think the PC market is close of justifying a third title.
Based on the recent WW sales Steam thread we are still talking about a reasonable market, which should make it hard for companies like SEGA to ignore it, but nothing more.
People have made a big deal about a Bayonetta PC port for years. It's worth a countdown; don't get your hopes up too high.
Considering that Platinum lives off of contracts with big publishers like Nintendo and SE, this is never happening.
The OG Bayonetta sold 1+ million copies IIRC so it wasn't a "complete bomba". It wasn't a supermassive success but it was enough for SEGA to at least START the development of 2. They eventually bailed out though that might have had at least partly to do with their financial situation around then not being all that good, from what I remember, so they weren't willing to fund something as big scale as Bayonetta 2 that was unlikely to be a huge success.
Jawbreaker
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I highly, highly doubt this is an elaborate troll. I understand people being skeptical, but it all makes too much sense to be anything else.
GhostTrick
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Alone, certainly not. But it could justify a multiplatform existence with PS4 and maybe Switch (although that's more doubtful in this case).
SmokedMeat
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I don't see it happening. I think Sega's smart enough to understand the community wouldn't be laughing if this turned out to be anything other then the real deal.
rrvv
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OVA basically Direct-to-video
Hmm, well if you guys both jumped on me for saying then maybe there is something here. Whether it is Bayonetta 3, Bayonetta 1+2 Remaster coming to all consoles, or Bayonetta 1 coming to PC it's all a win in my book.
I only have the Wii U version,l available to play right now, which I'd actually put below the 360 version in terms of performance (anything with alpha effects absolutely tanks the framerate). It would be absolutely glorious to play Bayonetta at a locked 60 at a decent resolution. I'd also love to rebind Bayo 1's controls to put lock on on L like you could for Bayo 2. Never understood why that wasn't an option in the first game tbh.
RecRoulette
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Yeah, but it's Sega.
Making money?
Probably the same point as MGSV, a game that sold 1.2 million copies on PC
Arthimura
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Right, but then it's pretty clear SEGA don't care about PC users and their experiences, since PC gamers won't be able to finish the series.
It will be pretty bad for PC gamers to play the first Bayonetta and then never play Bayonetta 2 because it's never ever coming to PC.
Did they, though? Unlike Bayonetta 2, there's nothing in the copyright information for LCU that suggests that Nintendo could lay claim to anything in the game other than the actual Nintendo content. I'm sure LCU was a little trickier to parse than most exclusives once the time finally came that WB could bring it to other platforms, but WB had power over the game from day 1, even with Nintendo's support being present.
What I don't understand is that we've had the highest ranking Platinum employees clarify the exclusivity situation for Bayonetta 2 repeatedly. How is that not good enough for you guys?
Eolz
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