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Sharapova banned for 2 years (doping)
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Good thing WADA is super strict in determining the half lives of all the drugs it has banned and determining the exact timing that it takes to leave the body.
Oh wait: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-meldonium-idUSKCN0WN1FS
Oh wait: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-meldonium-idUSKCN0WN1FS
I believe they are actually making the decision if Russia is allowed to compete next week.
Edit: Yep, checked it and it's june 17th when the decision comes.
Post Office
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All that dope and she still couldn't beat Williams.
That's creepy AF.
No different here in the UK. Footballers rarely even get tested.
NVM, I'm wrong about this... I'll keep the link because it is still relevant in other cases.
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2016-04/wada-statement-on-meldonium-notice-issued-to-stakeholders
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2016-04/wada-statement-on-meldonium-notice-issued-to-stakeholders
foxdvd
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The judgment reveals she was taking extra pills before important matches (ie performance enhancing), she stopped working with the doctor in 2010 but continued taking it on her own with only her father (and the latter year her agent) knowing about it, she didn't report the use of meldonium on doping forms although all supplement use should be reported and they had plenty of opportunities to check the new wada list, but they all failed to do it. She got of lightly if you ask me.
Tennis is a young person's game. It's difficult for 30+ to stay in top form and contend. There's only a small window for a player to be prime so a 2 year ban is significant in tennis.
Get out with this nonsense. WADA's decision is fully justified
http://www.itftennis.com/media/231178/231178.pdf
Good Job Bob
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Peru, post if you are okay.
That report does not say anything that would make me change my min with respects to how WADA is still a bullshit association that should not be trusted in the slightest or how Sharapova should not be banned for this.
She has a panic room to hide in when the examiners come. I don't know if that's smart but it seems to work.
She has admitted to taking it on 5 occasions during the Australian Open. In 2016! Just read the verdict
……forgetit
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In completely unrelated news, Serena is now the world's highest paid female athlete.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ms-is-the-worlds-highest-paid-female-athlete/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ms-is-the-worlds-highest-paid-female-athlete/
Yeah, I know that... So?
PeskyToaster
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Honestly I find it hard to care about this kind of cheating in sports. I mean it sucks but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.
That is a fiction: http://m.bbc.com/sport/tennis/35750285
She was taking it all the way through. She never claimed she stopped taking it and that it was just "in her system."
Yeah, they have been very soft on her. It could have been much worse, she still gets to enjoy the millions of dollars she earned by cheating and she only has to wait 2 years before she can go back to flunking tournaments.
In the coming years I'm sure many more players will be exposed. Nadal and Williams have been incredibly lucky to have the careers they have had with such obvious use of PEDs.
If a player is either arrogant or ignorant enough to do that, they have to be punished severely. There are no excuses.
magnificent83
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But that's never been her argument...
and its Sharapova who announced it to the world, no one knew, or have you forgotten everyone thought she was going to retire when the press conference was initially announced.
Ok youre right, Im sorry for jumping to conclussions.
Although, she says she did not know she was taking Meldonium, but she knew she was taking mildronate. Imagine having to go pill by pill, making a list of all the ingredients in every single pill youve ever taking and then cross referencing those ingredients against the ever changing WADA list.
She could have been taking mildronate as part of a multiple vitamin/supplement pre-game routine... I have been following this whole WADA shit for a few years, and at this point I literally have less trust in them than in just about anyone else in sports
j0hnnix
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She takes some horse stuff.. cause shes a beast.. probably forgot to dose this time thats why she lost.
I mean, the report says that in eastern europe it was being administered as treatment for
I dont specially like Tennis or Sharapova, I have no vested interest in Russian vs Western medicine. Its just that this whole thing strikes a raw nerve with me, I feel the meldonoium catastrophe is being used as a way to punish eastern european athletes in an unfair way, I was wrong about Sharapova no taking Meldonoium in 2016, and I let my anger at Wada's bullshit cloud my thoughts on her specific case.
All your arguments are refuted in the verdict. Why don't you just read it? She has a big team of physios, nutritionists etc who's job is to make sure she only takes legal supplements, but she never told them she was taking mildronate and she revealed other supplements on the doping sheets, but never mildronate. As far as your "massive list of ingrediens"-argument:
If eastern european athletes didn't cheat, they wouldn't be caught. Instead they have state sponsored doping programs and massive corruption in their doping laboratories to allow them to cheat without risk.
This drug is designed to treat disease of the coronary arteries. A sportsperson like Sharapova does not need this drug, the only reason they would take such a drug is for the illicit improvements to their athletic performance.
Players like her have huge teams of doctors and other experts looking into every aspect of their lives. This was a concerted effort by her and her team to enhance her performance using dubious drugs, just like in the case if all the other Russians caught using it recently. She is not special.
The report also says this
So, you know, we have no scientific proof that it actually does anything but Russians think it helps them, so lets ban it.
Why would the Russians be giving a drug for coronary heart disease to their best athletes if it did not enhance their performance? For a laugh?
The paragraph you quoted refers to scientific evidence that meldonium enhances performance. It simply says the tribunal did not take a view on the science and simply treated it as a banned substance. The people on the tribunal are not scientists.
All athletes were warned not to take the drug, including russians. It was on the warning list a year in advance, so they knew it could be banned. It's impossible to have scientific studies to prove whether a drug is performance enhancing in any situation. If athletes are taking drugs they have no medical reasons for, only for a perceived advantage, it is enough to ban its use.
Maybe it prevents heartbreaks in the event the athlete does not win the competition.
Why do people take creatine, or vitamins or have a balanced diet? Why do people take ice baths, homeopathy, acupuncture, or any other bullshit therapy that does nothing?
There are millions of substances that are performance enhancing but the line that must be draw is what is appropriate and fair for competition. Part of this line is looking at scientific results that quantify the degree of performance enhancing and compare it against possible negative side effect or against the cost of using those supplements.
So, drugs like steroids are banned because they have awful effects on your body and at the same time have a very proven and drastic boost on performance. Meldonoium might be a performance booster, it might also be a drastic performance booster. At this point we don't know how strong its effects are, we only know athletes feel it helps them.
Quick question, how many athletes feel acupuncture helps them recover? Should we ban it even though it has no measurable effects because they feel it helps them?
None of that is relevant to the judgment, this tribunal was not tasked with investigating the drug itself. The tribunal was to determine whether Sharapova broke the rules regarding banned substances, which she did. Whether the drug deserves to be on that list is not relevant to her case, she and her team knew it was going to be banned and had plenty of time to stop using it.
sankt-Antonio
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Its just sport, for people to enjoy watching on tv. She's an entertainer. Who really cares, i mean REALLY CARES?
From what I've read, it's not that she didn't pay attention to the list. It's that the list had the generic drug name, her prescription had a brand name (or vice versa), and her prescription wasn't on the list.
She just didn't know that the prescription was a banned substance under a different name. Seems like an easy mistake to make.
Correct me if I'm wrong
entremet
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For first offense?
There is no way that Sharapova herself is the only person in her vast team who has the responsibility for checking the banned substances list. An oversight as blindingly obvious as a generic/brand name mixup is ludicrous. A pharmacology undergraduate wouldn't make a mistake like that, I find it hard to believe that her team of medical experts would.
The Faceless Master
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save that for a 2nd offense.
This is a first offense. Do you really want that?
What? This isn't prison where you get released early for good behavior. Doping suspensions don't work like that.
Angelus Errare
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darkinstinct
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It's not. The standard punishment for first time offenders is four years.
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