Sharpest drop in US driving ever recorded
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RevenantKioku
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Where I lived, if I wasn't driving I wasn't going anywhere. Just how it is.goodcow said:
akachan ningen
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Limedust said:
Good. Hopefully we see some more changes because of this. I wanna see fewer titanic SUVs and trucks on the road.
Tommie Hu$tle
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goodcow said:
This just means Americans are sitting at home and watching more TV and use more Air conditioning. May use less gas but fuel consumption is still probably about the same.
krypt0nian
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goodcow said:
If you live in an urban center you have a point. If not, bullshit.
worldrunover
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I feel like gasoline is a market where lower demand =/= lower prices...
But good anyway.
But good anyway.
Instigator
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Ghost said:
No, great!
Souldriver
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Good because...
- less fuel dependent
- more healthy lifestyle
- push for public transportation
- better environment
(and probably a gazillion other advantages)
- less fuel dependent
- more healthy lifestyle
- push for public transportation
- better environment
(and probably a gazillion other advantages)
SteveMeister
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The US is set up assuming everyone has a private vehicle. Outside of urban areas, very few people live where they work, or shop where they live. Americans have to drive everywhere. There's some mass transit, but not much as you get away from city centers, and none of it is inter-connected. It's the way the country is set up.
For many (probably for most), "driving less" simply isn't an option. Owning a car is a necessity more than it is a status symbol. And that's why there needs to be more of a focus on alternatively powered vehicles. Because setting up new infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells or battery exchange centers is far, far cheaper than building light rail everywhere, and much less of a cultural and logistical hurdle than setting up bus lines that cover everyone's needs.
For many (probably for most), "driving less" simply isn't an option. Owning a car is a necessity more than it is a status symbol. And that's why there needs to be more of a focus on alternatively powered vehicles. Because setting up new infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells or battery exchange centers is far, far cheaper than building light rail everywhere, and much less of a cultural and logistical hurdle than setting up bus lines that cover everyone's needs.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Basically.sp0rsk said:
Hey where are those European and tree hugging GAF knuckle heads. Get smaller cars/car pool/take public transportation/ride a bike... well, America is listening, why aren't the prices going down, oh wise ones?
This.Tommie Hu$tle said:
And this.krypt0nian said:
Actually this might be really bad because, nobody here is thinking about why people are driving?
Often to go shopping or to some entertainment venue where they'll still be spending money.
So, economically, this could be very, very bad.
John Dunbar
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And tomorrow gas prices soar to balance out decreased demand.
Witchfinder General
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Wellington said:
The fuck? Do you seriously expect prices to dramatically go down instantaneously? Once the world shifts away from fossil fuels to renewable resources then you'll see a surge downwards. This is simply the first step.
BobsRevenge
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Real Americans leave their air conditioning on all day.Tommie Hu$tle said:
John Dunbar said:
That's not how the law of supply and demand works, but to be fair, gas company collusion means that we don't get the benefits of competition either - which is why you never say, "I'm going to Shell because it's cheaper."
You ever think about that little gem? That there is literally no such thing as a cheaper brand? Because there is for everything else. Cars, jeans, pies, ice cream, soda, - but not gasoline.
Sure, there might be a local gas station that is typically cheaper - but that's because the owner or franchise pays less rent, or is more desperate.
Instigator
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Wellington said:
Because all those choices are not to drive prices down, but to make it cheaper for individual by making them consume less.
Souldriver
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Did we say prices would go down that way? I don't think so. We just gave you advice, namely: Get smaller cars/car pool/take public transportation/ride a bike.Wellington said:
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Kletian said:check/no one to carpool with/not an option/have a daughter so not an option
This is why the European and tree-hugging GAF knuckle-heads bug me so much.
You dug your own hole, buddy.
Dark Octave
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This on the news yesterday:
Reporter: "This has been the slowest memorial day weekend the freeways have ever seen."
Cop: "Yeah, we've been cracking down on drunk drivers somethin' awful, I tell you what! And people are startin' ta respect my atoritah!"
Truth: We all know the truth.
Reporter: "This has been the slowest memorial day weekend the beaches have ever seen."
Cop: Yeah, gas prices are kicking everyone's asses. Not as many people are traveling her from out of state.
True, but even more true: A ban on alcohol at all beaches in the area.
Reporter: "This has been the slowest memorial day weekend the freeways have ever seen."
Cop: "Yeah, we've been cracking down on drunk drivers somethin' awful, I tell you what! And people are startin' ta respect my atoritah!"
Truth: We all know the truth.
Reporter: "This has been the slowest memorial day weekend the beaches have ever seen."
Cop: Yeah, gas prices are kicking everyone's asses. Not as many people are traveling her from out of state.
True, but even more true: A ban on alcohol at all beaches in the area.
You do as much as you can. That's cool. It's really the SUV/Gigantor Truck crowd that us tree huggers really go ape over.Kletian said:check/no one to carpool with/not an option/have a daughter so not an option
This is why the European and tree-hugging GAF knuckle-heads bug me so much.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Witchfinder General said:
They told me this was the solution to the problem, but the problem is still there.
Edit: I'm just trollin'. You guys are quick to anger though, good thing you don't say anything to piss other people off.
Baraka in the White House
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Witchfinder General said:
Eh, why not? They went up that way...
dammitmattt
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Azih said:
You'd be surprised at how many people (in the South, anyway) actually take advantage of their gigantic trucks and/or need them for work.
SteveMeister
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Wellington said:They told me this was the solution to the problem, but the problem is still there.
Yep, and it will be regardless of what we do here in America, because the high fuel prices in the US are not due to demand in the US.
Dark Octave
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:lolSir Fragula said:
Souldriver
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I really do understand how some of you have no option but to drive cars. It's a way of life the "American society" has developed throughout the decades, so the only thing people/the government really has invested in is cars/roads. :/ But having a small car instead of an SUV/truck is already a great thing.Kletian said:check/no one to carpool with/not an option/have a daughter so not an option
This is why the European and tree-hugging GAF knuckle-heads bug me so much.
Just a question: because you have daughter doesn't mean you can't drive a bike. You can both drive a bike, and if she's too young, just install a childrens seat on your bike.
Enless off course you live in the middle of nowhere, so biking is not an option at all.
VictimOfGrief
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They've stopped driving because food costs more and the drop off in driving is probably ending stupid errand trips that people used to go buy shit they didn't need with money they didn't have.
This is the system balancing itself. It will take time and the more people curtail their spastic driving to the mall for those latest shoes, the better.
This is the system balancing itself. It will take time and the more people curtail their spastic driving to the mall for those latest shoes, the better.
chaostrophy
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dammitmattt said:
From what I've seen (when living in southern Indiana, I dunno whether that's considered the South or not), very few people who drive those things needed them for work. The parking lot where I worked was filled with massive vehicles and it was an IT office. Not a datacenter filled with heavy servers and stuff, just an office for remote support work.
By contrast, in Chicago where I live now, most of the big trucks I see have a business name and number on them.
BobsRevenge
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:lol :lol :lolSir Fragula said:
Perfect response to that.
Souldriver said:I really do understand how some of you have no option but to drive cars. It's a way of life the "American society" has developed throughout the decades, so the only thing people/the government really has invested in is cars/roads. :/ But having a small car instead of an SUV/truck is already a great thing.
Just a question: because you have daughter doesn't mean you can't drive a bike. You can both drive a bike, and if she's too young, just install a childrens seat on your bike.
Enless off course you live in the middle of nowhere, so biking is not an option at all.
I need a car because there is no other way to go 20 miles to go shopping or walking the 9 miles to my friends house in a reasonable amount of time...
SteveMeister
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Odysseus said:
Right, and that's why driving less isn't going to cause prices to drop. All it'll do is save people some money. And that's all any of us can do about it right now.
dammitmattt
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Azih said:
That's right. Everyone should own two cars. That's MUCH better for the world.
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