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Shaun King lays out all the corruption in Ferguson.

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Malyse

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https://storify.com/laurahib/shaun-king

Basically, the governor, the prosecutor, and the head of the police union are all besties, the police chief is a fucking liar, and Darren Wilson will not get convicted (making the massive assumption that there is even a trial in the first place).


In 15 minutes, I'm going all in. Putting all of my chips on the table for Ferguson, St. Louis, Mike Brown, Justice. It's now or never.
11:39 AM - 17 Sep 2014

I put my name on everything I'm about to tweet. I will share every source document & stand by it all. The scandal is deep & ugly. Here goes
11:53 AM - 17 Sep 2014

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I fully believe that Mike Brown was murdered, illegally, in cold blood. Here's our timeline of what happened.
11:55 AM - 17 Sep 2014

This injustice, stands all by itself, as a crime, and must be dealt with. I'll circle back on that shortly. Now though, the scandal.
11:56 AM - 17 Sep 2014

From day 1, I mean that literally, people on the ground were baffled by the lack of action & overall insensitivity of @GovJayNixon
11:57 AM - 17 Sep 2014

It is clear to me now, in no uncertain terms that @GovJayNixon NEVER had any intention of truly advocating for justice for Mike Brown. None.
11:58 AM - 17 Sep 2014

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Last night, @GovJayNixon was the keynote speaker @ a fundraiser for the dirtiest man in Missouri politics @RoordaJ
11:59 AM - 17 Sep 2014

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I have to press this hard. @RoordaJ was behind the fundraisers for Darren Wilson. Here's the charity w/ his name.
12:00 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Before @RoordaJ became a surrogate for Darren Wilson, he was FIRED as a police officer for FALSIFYING REPORTS http://caselaw.findlaw.com/mo-court-of-appeals/1333908.html …
12:02 PM - 17 Sep 2014

After @RoordaJ was first cited for falsifying police reports, he did again & again until he was finally fired & lost an appeal.
12:02 PM - 17 Sep 2014

One would think that @RoordaJ, fired as an officer would have to be done with law enforcement, but he was then HIRED as a Police Chief.
12:03 PM - 17 Sep 2014

In essence, @RoordaJ, shamed for misconduct in one precinct, got a promotion in another, and became a police chief.
12:04 PM - 17 Sep 2014

After becoming Police Chief, in spite of his dubious record, @RoordaJ was then elected to the Missouri House & is on the Public Safety Board
12:04 PM - 17 Sep 2014

INCREDIBLY popular among officers, @RoordaJ became the head of the St. Louis Police Union (in spite of being fired for misconduct).
12:05 PM - 17 Sep 2014

While head of the very powerful St. Louis Police Union, @RoordaJ REGULARLY argued against the rights of black people left & right.

In a case that actually BLEW UP in St. Louis but didn't catch on nationally, this man was assaulted by officers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HUvXOvgkQ&feature=youtu.be …
12:06 PM - 17 Sep 2014

In this case, and in this video, @RoordaJ flat out LIES about what happened & saves the officers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HUvXOvgkQ&feature=youtu.be …
12:07 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Follow me. It's about to get damn ugly...
12:08 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Strap in kittens.

Just weeks before Darren Wilson murdered Mike Brown, @RoordaJ created a bill to protect officers who murder citizens http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...involved-shootings-kept-secret-272229131.html …
12:09 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Now, just this week, @RoordaJ, who has abandoned Twitter after we blasted him, is stopping police cameras. http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Tens...ficers-union-over-body-cameras-275346191.html …
12:10 PM - 17 Sep 2014

At EVERY SINGLE TURN any time anything that protects citizens from officers comes up, @RoordaJ is the DEPENDENT VARIABLE in Missouri. ALWAYS
12:11 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Now, all of this being public knowledge, @RoordaJ would seem to be a political pariah, but @GovJayNixon LOVES this man. They are besties.
12:12 PM - 17 Sep 2014

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Anytime @RoordaJ has asked @GovJayNixon to appear somewhere, like this fundraiser last night, he's there.
12:12 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Now, Black folk, who put @GovJayNixon in office TWICE, begged this man to appoint a special prosecutor in the Darren Wilson case. PLEADED.
12:13 PM - 17 Sep 2014

I say this with all sincerity, if I was Darren Wilson, I'd pay MILLIONS to have Bob McCulloch as the man to prosecute me. MILLIONS.
12:15 PM - 17 Sep 2014

In fact, St. Louis police REVERE Bob McCulloch. He is a legal HERO for police officers & this has ALWAYS been his primary campaign pitch.
12:16 PM - 17 Sep 2014

. @RoordaJ & Bob McCulloch have worked together FOR YEARS advocating for St. Louis police officers. Formally & informally. They are CLOSE.
12:17 PM - 17 Sep 2014

You have to read this article about the lengths Bob McCulloch will go to protect officers who kill unarmed black men. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_cdd4c104-6086-506e-9ee8-aa957a31fee5.html …
12:18 PM - 17 Sep 2014

In St. Louis, police killed 2 men, lied & said the men were going to run them over w/ their car (like Sean Bell). Feds found car never moved
12:19 PM - 17 Sep 2014

This is hard to fathom, but when asked about why he wasn't going to prosecute the officers, McColloch called the men they killed "bums".
12:21 PM - 17 Sep 2014

Yoo. Read that shit again.

The @washingtonpost & @Milbank said that the Prosecutors have DELIBERATELY set the Wilson case up to fail. "A Farce" http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...2226ca-3a82-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html …
12:23 PM - 17 Sep 2014

From the top (@GovJayNixon) to the middle (@RoordaJ) to the bottom (Ferguson Police) we are witnessing a HOUSE OF CARDS level scandal.
12:24 PM - 17 Sep 2014

When @GovJayNixon showed up with a BIG SMILE last night raising money for @RoordaJ that was him spitting in the face of Black people.
12:25 PM - 17 Sep 2014

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When I see @GovJayNixon smiling in front of that sign, I see man with his middle finger up to Black folk in St. Louis
12:26 PM - 17 Sep 2014

How could the Governor, in these conditions, in this time, show up to raise money for the man he knows stands against black folk daily.
12:27 PM - 17 Sep 2014

When we learned @roordaj was fired for police misconduct & was helping the Wilson fundraisers we said Nixon would NEVER distance himself
12:29 PM - 17 Sep 2014

But I'll be honest, I have a bit of egg on my face b/c even I didn't think that @GovJayNixon would show up to raise money for him yesterday.
12:30 PM - 17 Sep 2014

God bless Mike Brown and his family. This young man's murder has exposed corruption & evil & incompetence at every level in Missouri.
12:31 PM - 17 Sep 2014

If you love yourself, if you love truth/justice, if you love black people, NEVER trust @GovJayNixon again a day in your damn life. PERIOD.
12:32 PM - 17 Sep 2014

I'm past my time and now I'm fully riled up on my birthday, but I have at least 5 more things to say. I hope you share those tweets.
12:37 PM - 17 Sep 2014

On it.

We need the news like @jaketapper & @Lawrence & @JoyAnnReid & @chrislhayes to cover the connection between @RoordaJ & @GovJayNixon
12:38 PM - 17 Sep 2014

5 more things...
12:39 PM - 17 Sep 2014

The Ferguson Police Chief has been caught in a FULL OUT LIE about why he released the videos of Mike Brown. No FOI requests made him do that
12:41 PM - 17 Sep 2014

. @RoordaJ knows where Darren Wilson is. The charity Roorda manages has ALREADY received Wilson's money from @GoFundMe. May be giving funds.
12:43 PM - 17 Sep 2014

I am convinced that @GovJayNixon & @RoordaJ would let St. Louis burn ALL THE WAY DOWN before they let Wilson spend one night in jail.
12:44 PM - 17 Sep 2014

McColloch & advisers thought they were killing the momentum of protestors by pushing the jury back FIVE MONTHS, but he's DEAD WRONG.
12:46 PM - 17 Sep 2014

By pushing the Grand Jury back to January 7th, which is preposterous, McColloch not only delayed justice, but gave us time to organize.
12:47 PM - 17 Sep 2014

In case you forgot, Mike died on August 9th.

I kid you not, every damn day I wake up and Darren Wilson is still at home watching Price Is Right somewhere, I get angrier. We all do!
12:48 PM - 17 Sep 2014

I'm angry that the list of names of unarmed men and women killed by police is so long I'm having a hard time remembering them all.
12:50 PM - 17 Sep 2014

One every 28 hours

I have to go for now. You have until Friday to join this justice group, then we're going dark for two weeks. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1534353783445282/ …
12:51 PM - 17 Sep 2014

TL;DR. Fucking read it anyway.
 
I'm bumping this in the hopes that more people read it.

It's disgusting what's been allowed to transpire here, and Shawn King is doing God's work by exposing it.

Justice is a farce.
 

JDSN

Banned
I really hope someone that truly represents Ferguson joins the governor race, the community really needs to get involved in choosing their politicians since its obvious that Brown isnt getting justice.
 
if Shaun King can put all this together, why aren't the Feds stepping in if they have just as much ability to discover these issues? seems weird that after what happen the Ferguson officials are still running this show.
 

watershed

Banned
As I said in the Ferguson thread, not at all surprising. No one in the state and local government actually wants to deal with Mike Brown's killing or the overarching issues or race and policing. The governor wants this whole issue to go away as much as the police do.
 

Gorillaz

Member
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez that is some sort of breakdown. I remember hearing the police officer was indeed connected so it's good to hear that from someone there as well
 
I appreciate the work and what he's uncovered, but am I the only one who thinks it would be more accessible and beneficial to write an actual article and link to it on twitter instead of having everything broken up and formatted to fit the character limit. I'm not super into twitter though, so if that's his primary audience and arena, then it doesn't really matter.
 
I appreciate the work and what he's uncovered, but am I the only one who thinks it would be more accessible and beneficial to write an actual article and link to it on twitter instead of having everything broken up and formatted to fit the character limit. I'm not super into twitter though, so if that's his primary audience and arena, then it doesn't really matter.

He's a social media guy. This is what he does.

He's not a "journalist", however, the work he's done here has put a lot of actual journalists to shame.

Waiting to see if any of the big 3 pick this up, and to see how long it takes.
 
I appreciate the work and what he's uncovered, but am I the only one who thinks it would be more accessible and beneficial to write an actual article and link to it on twitter instead of having everything broken up and formatted to fit the character limit. I'm not super into twitter though, so if that's his primary audience and arena, then it doesn't really matter.

If you look through it all you see he's addressing specific people throughout multiple times. It was done that way to call attention to them and to get attention in general. In all likelihood there will be a summarized follow-up.
 

Velcro Fly

Member
Not much of this surprises me, honestly. I pretty much figured corruption was taking over and here we have it spelled out plainly.
 
wasnt holder considering pursuing a federal case? seems it would be harder for corrupt locals to influence the outcome.

on the subject of cameras, i believe there are a couple of important implementation concerns but i am wary of any police or departments that oppose them.
 
This is the most open and shut case, yet the Federal DOJ is dicking around for reasons unknown.

THE EVIDENCE IS RIGHT THERE YOU IDIOTS.

Grow some balls and nuke the fucking place from orbit.
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
While I can understand a lot of people being disappointed in how things are going, this story made national news and is also being investigated by the Feds. It won't just go away. It'll go to trial despite the fucking idiot of a governor and crook of a state's attorney. Holder won't let this go.
 
America. Where state's rights mean stopping the federal government from screwing over the little guy, because you want to screw them over harder.

Not sure what can be done given the complete homogeny of thought in Missouri (or as I like to say, Misery) politics, but something has to change.
 
This is way too complicated for most people to give a fuck about, much less read and understand.

This isn't going to get picked up by major journalists or news sites. Not ever. When things get this complex it's all the easier to blame things on conspiracy theories or dumb double speak. The move of the grand jury to Januray is just waiting it out for the general public to forget about the incident so they can then kill it quietly. Jeff Roorda isn't going to answer to any of the shit he's been pulling for years. Why would he? He has no accountability and has to answer to no one.

Darren Wilson isn't ever serving any time for his crime. There won't be justice for Brown's murder. Mark my words, Wilson will walk free.
 

Dude Abides

Banned
Roorda is a scumbag but one Democrat stumping for another doesn't seem particularly scandalous.

And the January date for the grand jury is the deadline for when they have to decide whether to return an indictment or not. It's the deadline for the end of the process, not the beginning. They've already started hearing evidence. I'm surprised GAF has multiple experts on grand jury proceedings who can can have such confidence that a January decision date is so wildly inappropriate.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Roorda is a scumbag but one Democrat stumping for another doesn't seem particularly scandalous.

And the January date for the grand jury is the deadline for when they have to decide whether to return an indictment or not. It's the deadline for the end of the process, not the beginning. They've already started hearing evidence. I'm surprised GAF has multiple experts on grand jury proceedings who can can have such confidence that a January decision date is so wildly inappropriate.
We understand how grand juries work just fine. The problem many of us have, is the DA, who by the way should have recused himself for several reasons, originally said well its going to be October, now its freaking January? How come we've heard from like 10 eye witnesses but not Darren Wilson? How come there is no incidents report? How come the authorities have fought tooth and nail the whole way? What it looks like is they are letting all the evidence come in so the defense can craft their story around the existing evidence and witness testimony.

This also isn't happening in a vacuum. When you throw this in with all the other stuff that has gone on, you start to get skeptical of everything.

From the outside, this case doesn't seem that complicated to get an indictment. He either acted within the law, or he didn't.
 

Malyse

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What happened in Ferguson, Mo., last month was a tragedy. What’s on course to happen there next month will be a farce.

October is when a grand jury is expected to decide whether to indict the white police officer, Darren Wilson, who killed an unarmed black teenager by firing at least six bullets into him. It’s a good bet the grand jurors won’t charge him, because all signs indicate that the St. Louis County prosecutor, Robert McCulloch, doesn’t want them to.

The latest evidence that the fix is in came this week from The Post’s Kimberly Kindy and Carol Leonnig, who discovered that McCulloch’s office has declined so far to recommend any charges to the grand jury. Instead, McCulloch’s prosecutors handling the case are taking the highly unusual course of dumping all evidence on the jurors and leaving them to make sense of it.

McCulloch’s office claims that this is a way to give more authority to the grand jurors, but it looks more like a way to avoid charging Wilson at all — and to use the grand jury as cover for the outrage that will ensue. It is often said that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it to. But the opposite is also true. A grand jury is less likely to deliver an indictment — even a much deserved one — if a prosecutor doesn’t ask for it.

One might give McCulloch the benefit of the doubt, if not for his background. His father was a police officer killed in a shootout with a black suspect, and several of his family members are, or were, police officers. His 23-year record on the job reveals scant interest in prosecuting such cases. During his tenure, there have been at least a dozen fatal shootings by police in his jurisdiction (the roughly 90 municipalities in the county other than St. Louis itself), and probably many more than that, but McCulloch’s office has not prosecuted a single police shooting in all those years. At least four times he presented evidence to a grand jury but — wouldn’t you know it? — didn’t get an indictment.

One of the four: A 2000 case in which a grand jury declined to indict two police officers who had shot two unarmed black men 21 times while they sat in their car behind a Jack in the Box fast-food restaurant. It was a botched drug arrest, and one of the two men killed hadn’t even been a suspect. McCulloch at the time said he agreed with the grand jury’s decision, dismissing complaints of the handling of the case by saying the dead men “were bums.” He refused to release surveillance tapes of the shooting. When those tapes were later released as part of a federal probe, it was discovered that, contrary to what police alleged, the car had not moved before the police began shooting.

McCulloch apparently hasn’t learned from that. His spokesman, asked by The Post’s Wesley Lowery about those remarks, said the slain men “should have been described as ‘convicted felons’ rather than ‘bums.’ ”

Lowery gained national attention last month when he was unjustly detained by Ferguson’s out-of-control police while covering the demonstrations. He has since asked McCulloch’s office for a list of cases in which prosecutors pursued charges against a law enforcement official. McCulloch’s office ultimately came up with only one case over 23 years that The Post could verify of the prosecution of a white officer for using inappropriate force against a black victim, and it wasn’t a shooting.

But if McCulloch lacks credibility, he apparently has political clout. This could explain why Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon — like McCulloch, a Democrat — is refusing to appoint a special prosecutor. This could also explain Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill’s statement in support of McCulloch.

Proving a case of excessive force against a police officer is difficult, and I’m not in any position to determine Wilson’s guilt. But that doesn’t justify declining to prosecute such cases. There’s no dispute that Brown ran away after Wilson shot him in a scuffle and that Wilson shot Brown several more times after that. Several witnesses — including those in a newly discovered video showing the immediate aftermath of the shooting — claim that Brown had his hands up in surrender. The alternative account offered by Wilson — Brown charged at him — requires us to believe that the unarmed and wounded man ran away, reconsidered and ran back toward the man pointing a gun at him.

And McCulloch won’t have his prosecutors recommend even involuntary manslaughter? If he persists and if the governor won’t intervene, their behavior will confirm suspicions that justice is rigged.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...2226ca-3a82-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html

ST. LOUIS (KMOV.com) – Tensions are bubbling up between St. Louis Police and the officers’ union over the possibility of officers wearing body cameras.
St. Louis Police said it would cost around $1.2 million to outfit all 1300 officers with body cameras. The police union said it must agree to any policy covering body cameras before a policy is adopted.

“They can’t employ this equipment without violating the union contract they signed,” said Jeff Roorda with the St. Louis Police Officers Association.

Union representatives told News 4 police and the union must forge an agreement on what the recordings will be used for before any decision is made on whether to use body cameras.

“This gotcha discipline that we have with the dash board cameras is what we’d be afraid of,” Roorda said.

Public Safety Director Richard Gray said an individual camera would cost $300-$700 but may round out to $1200 once accessory and data and storage costs are added. Other local police departments have told News 4 their cameras will cost around $400 a piece.
“What they have is an incomplete process. The cameras would cost that, but they also need to store the information, charge the product, the camera itself,” Gray said.

After initial start-up costs, Gray said the department would have to increase its annual budget by $800,000-$900,000 to maintain the cameras and their data. Gray said no decisions have been made about how such an effort would be funded.

“I think it’s a good tool and whatever it costs probably is a fraction of the cost to our greater community to have that broken trust,” said 21st Ward Alderman Antonio French.

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Tens...ficers-union-over-body-cameras-275346191.html

KMOV.com) – State Representative Jeff Roorda-D Barnhart introduced a bill in the Missouri Legislature to keep the name of police officers who shoot someone in the line of duty a secret.

Roorda said he introduced the bill in 2009 out of safety concerns for police officers.
“Releasing a name could put someone in grave jeopardy,” Roorda said.

Roorda is also the business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers’ Association. The bill would have prevented the public from obtaining any records and documents involving police shootings if those documents contained the name of the officer who pulled the trigger.

Roorda said he was concerned about retaliation.

“That someone would retaliate, think they did something wrong and try to hurt them or their family,” Roorda said.

The bill never became law. The Police Officer’s Association eventually reached a compromise with the St. Louis Police Department. The department agreed to not release the name of the officer if it felt the officer could face a threat. After the compromise, Roorda decided not to pursue the legislation.

Roorda said he is concerned about the safety of Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Michael Brown, Jr, but Roorda is not commenting on the decision to release Wilson’s name.

“I’m not going to second guess Chief Jackson for releasing it, just like I’m not going to second guess him if he had not released it,” Roorda said.
Roorda said he has no plans to re-introduce the legislation. He said state law says the decision to release the name of an officer involved in a shooting must be done on a case by case basis.

http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...involved-shootings-kept-secret-272229131.html

ST. LOUIS • Robert McCulloch isn’t known to back down.

For decades, the St. Louis County prosecutor has been in the spotlight for everything ranging from his prosecution of Guns N’ Roses frontman Axl Rose to questions about his deep police roots. And for decades county voters have kept him in office.

On Friday, McCulloch faced calls from political foes to step aside in the investigation of the fatal shooting death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown at the hand of a white police officer. State Sen. Jamilah Nasheed wrote a letter to McCulloch saying prior prosecutorial decisions and his heavy support of Steve Stenger in his defeat of St. Louis County Executive Charlie Dooley in this month’s Democratic primary scarred the black community.

And U.S. Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-St. Louis, assailed McCulloch on Friday night on a visit to Ferguson: “We don’t have any confidence in the St. Louis County prosecuting attorney’s office.” He went on to accuse McCulloch of attempting to influence a potential jury by the release this morning of the robbery video at the same time the officer’s name was released.

“Bob McCulloch tried to taint the jury pool by the stunt he pulled today. I have no faith in him, but I do trust the FBI and the justice department.”

McCulloch, who as a teenager lost a leg to cancer, made it his career ambition to become a prosecutor.

“I couldn’t become a policeman, so being county prosecutor is the next best thing,” McCulloch once told the Post-Dispatch.

McCulloch took office in 1991. His first big test came a few months later with the infamous Riverport Riot when a Guns N’ Roses concert ended with injuries to 40 concertgoers and 25 police officers.

McCulloch charged Axl Rose, the rock band’s front man, with misdemeanor assault and property damage alleging that Rose hit a security guard, hurt three concertgoers and trashed a dressing room. He then pursued Rose across the country seeking to enforce an arrest warrant on the charges, saying Rose “is easy to find …”Wherever he goes, we’ll be waiting for him. If he wants to cancel his whole schedule, fine. If he leaves the country, we’ll notify Customs to get him when he comes back.

Rose ended up surrendering after a public uproar and entered a plea agreement.

In 2001, two undercover drug officers from Dellwood shot and killed two men on the parking lot of a Jack in the Box in north St. Louis County. The officers said the suspects, who had prior felony convictions for drug and assault offenses, tried to escape arrest and then drove toward the officers.

A subsequent federal investigation showed that the men were unarmed and that their car had not moved forward when the officers fired 21 shots and killed the suspects, Earl Murray and Ronald Beasley. The probe, however, also concluded that because the officers feared for their safety, the shootings were justified.

McCulloch didn’t prosecute the officers. He specifically drew the ire of defense lawyers and protesters, who had been holding demonstrations and threatened to block Highway 40,when he said of Murray and Beasley, “These guys were bums.”

After being criticized, McCulloch refused to back down, saying, “The print media and self-anointed activists have been portraying the two gentlemen as folk heroes and have been vilifying the police. I think it is important for the public to know that these two and others like them for years have spread destruction in the community dealing crack cocaine and heroin.”

Nasheed pointed to the Jack in the Box case in her letter: “Critically important, you must consider the potential consequences if you choose to not seek a special prosecutor. If you should decide to not indict this police officer, the rioting we witnessed this past week will seem like a picnic compared to the havoc that will likely occur, because the black community will never accept that there was an impartial investigation from your office.”

McCulloch’s opponents also point to his familial ties to law enforcement. McCulloch’s father, brother, nephew and cousin all served with St. Louis police; his mother was a clerk there.

McCulloch was 12 when his father, St. Louis police officer Paul McCulloch, was shot and killed July 2, 1964, in a gun battle with a kidnapper in the 2100 block of Dickson Street at the former Pruitt-Igoe public-housing complex. Witnesses said Paul McCulloch had just rounded the corner responding to the call when he was shot in the head by a fleeing kidnapper, Eddie Glenn.

An hour before, Glenn had kidnapped a woman, 20, in her car in front of her parents’ store, in the 800 block of North Leffingwell Avenue, and forced her to drive around. A witness reported the kidnapping. Another officer saw the car and stopped it near 20th and O’Fallon streets. Glenn fired at the other officer and fled into the housing complex, quickly encountering McCulloch. The woman was unharmed.

Glenn was found guilty one year later in St. Louis Circuit Court and sentenced to die in the state gas chamber, but the Missouri Supreme Court reduced the sentence to life in prison. Paul McCulloch, 37, had joined the city police department in 1949 and was a canine officer when he was killed.

His father’s death was a major theme for McCulloch’s campaign ads that first propelled him to office. He is running unopposed for reelection in November.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_cdd4c104-6086-506e-9ee8-aa957a31fee5.html

So viewed, the record reveals that in July 1997, Roorda attempted to try to “cover” for another police officer by filing a report that contained false statements as to what happened during a suspect's apprehension and arrest.   As a result of this false report, all charges against the defendant involved were dropped, and Roorda received a written reprimand from B.J. Nelson (the City's Chief of Police at the time) for violating the City Police Department's General Order 74.4 (“False Reporting”).4  The written reprimand issued to Roorda stated, in relevant part:  “If it is ever determined again that you have lied in a police report, you will receive a more severe punishment, up to and including termination.”

On March 15, 2001, Roorda wrote a memorandum to Dale Fredeking (“Chief Fredeking”), who was then the City's Chief of Police,5 informing Chief Fredeking of Roorda's intention to utilize twelve weeks of leave under the Family Medical Leave Act (“FMLA”) to attend to the upcoming birth of his child and asking permission to take such leave from May 22 through August 14, 2001.   Roorda further asked to have this time classified as paid sick leave.   On March 19, 2001, Chief Fredeking responded to Roorda by memorandum, informing him that, while he could take FMLA leave for the birth of his child, the leave would be unpaid and the City could require him to use all of his paid vacation time before receiving unpaid FMLA leave.   Chief Fredeking further advised Roorda that the pertinent Departmental General Order did not allow the use of paid sick leave to attend to the birth of a child.

On May 1, 2001, Roorda met with Chief Fredeking in Fredeking's office to discuss his refusal to grant Roorda's request to receive full sick pay while on FMLA leave.   Roorda closed the door to Chief Fredeking's office a couple of minutes after the meeting commenced.   On May 21, 2001, Roorda filed an Allegation of Employee Misconduct Report (“Misconduct Report”), in which he stated that Chief Fredeking had verbally abused and attempted to intimidate him during the May 1, 2001 meeting, which began in the Chief's office around 11:15 a.m. that morning.   In particular, Roorda alleged that “Chief Fredeking yelled and cursed at me and slammed his fist on his desk in what appeared to be an attempt to intimidate me away from my legitimate request to use sick time.   The Chief's door was open at the time and the administrative staff was on hand.”   The next day, Roorda filed an Internal Affairs Statement of Complaint (“IA Complaint”) setting forth exactly the same complaints and allegations contained in the Misconduct Report he had filed the day before.   Within the body of the IA Complaint, Roorda affirmed that the facts and information contained therein were true as follows:  “I, Sgt. Jeff Roorda, do hereby affirm that the foregoing statement was given freely and without duress, and that all facts and information contained therein are true to the best of my knowledge.”

On May 22, 2001, the Commander of the Department's Division of Internal Affairs, Detective Sergeant Richard Shular, was assigned to investigate the Misconduct Report and IA Complaint filed by Roorda.   During the course of his investigation, Sgt. Shular interviewed Roorda, who, upon being asked if he had any other evidence that might support his allegations, “whether it be of a paper nature or any tape recordings or anything,” replied that he needed to confer with his attorney.   After doing so, Roorda acknowledged having tape-recorded his May 1, 2001 conversation with Chief Fredeking and later provided the cassette audio tape, which had been in the possession of his attorney, to Sgt. Shular.   Roorda subsequently admitted that, on the same day (May 1, 2001), he had also tape-recorded conversations between himself and other Department personnel, including a secretary (Carol Shaw) and Chief Fredeking's administrative assistant (Lieutenant Terry Schweitzer), without informing them that he was doing so.   After interviewing all other persons involved in the incident complained of by Roorda in the Misconduct Report and IA Complaint and reviewing all of the evidence available to him relating to the incident, Sgt. Shular, in a report dated June 4, 2001, stated that there was no evidence of any kind to support the allegations made by Roorda against Chief Fredeking in either the Misconduct Report or the IA Complaint.   In particular, Sgt. Shular concluded that the tape recording of the May 1, 2001 meeting demonstrated that Chief Fredeking did not slam his fist on his desk, did not yell at Roorda, and in no way attempted to intimidate Roorda.   The audio tape also revealed that while Chief Fredeking did at one point use some coarse language (“bullshit” and “crap”) to describe his overall impression of Roorda's unauthorized request to receive full sick pay while on FMLA leave,6 he did not yell and curse at Roorda as alleged by Roorda in the Misconduct Report and IA Complaint.   Most of this was further corroborated by Ms. Shaw, who was working at her desk located immediately outside Chief Fredeking's office before, during, and after the May 1 meeting.   Due to his past disciplinary record, the seriousness of the false reports filed by Roorda, and the other Departmental General Order violations he had committed, Sgt. Shular recommended that Roorda be terminated.

The City terminated Roorda on June 20, 2001, and he then appealed to the Board.   The Board found that in willfully and secretly tape-recording his May 1, 2001 conversations with Chief Fredeking, Ms. Shaw, and Lt. Schweitzer without proper prior authorization to do so, Roorda violated the Department's General Order 14.3.12 (“Unbecoming Conduct”), for which dismissal is an authorized penalty.7  The Board also found that in knowingly making false statements and allegations in both the Misconduct Report and the IA Complaint, Roorda violated General Order 14.2.4 (“Truthfulness”), an offense that is also punishable by termination of employment.8  The Board further specifically found that Roorda's testimony during its hearing was “not credible and was not worthy of belief,” while finding the exact opposite regarding the City's two primary witnesses against him, Sgt. Shular and Ms. Shaw. The Board ultimately concluded that Roorda “was disciplined and terminated based upon sufficient and credible evidence, and the entire record supports termination for just cause as set forth in the Arnold Police Department's Policy and Procedure Manual.”   The Board thus sustained the City's action in terminating Roorda.   Other facts will be discussed later as necessary to decide this appeal.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/mo-court-of-appeals/1333908.html
 

Malyse

Member
Roorda is a scumbag but one Democrat stumping for another doesn't seem particularly scandalous.

And the January date for the grand jury is the deadline for when they have to decide whether to return an indictment or not. It's the deadline for the end of the process, not the beginning. They've already started hearing evidence. I'm surprised GAF has multiple experts on grand jury proceedings who can can have such confidence that a January decision date is so wildly inappropriate.

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I don't think I can respond to this without being banned.

Schattenjäger;130538864 said:
I thought the Feds would be investigating .. This sucks

Feds are only doing a civil rights investigation. IIRC it's a softer touch than the criminal one.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
That's pretty damning, but unfortunately, none of the big news stations will run with this. It's not sexy and the riots are no longer happening. It'll be touched upon next year when Time/AP produce their photos that defined the year with a small blurb with the non-outcome.
 
We understand how grand juries work just fine. The problem many of us have, is the DA, who by the way should have recused himself for several reasons, originally said well its going to be October, now its freaking January? How come we've heard from like 10 eye witnesses but not Darren Wilson? How come there is no incidents report? How come the authorities have fought tooth and nail the whole way? What it looks like is they are letting all the evidence come in so the defense can craft their story around the existing evidence and witness testimony.

This also isn't happening in a vacuum. When you throw this in with all the other stuff that has gone on, you start to get skeptical of everything.

From the outside, this case doesn't seem that complicated to get an indictment. He either acted within the law, or he didn't.

Wilson finally have his story to the grand jury yesterday or the day before. Which is unusual because it gives the prosecution the strategy for the defense. The article I posted in the other thread also said that some of the eyewitnesses have yet to be subpoenaed.
 
Wilson finally have his story to the grand jury yesterday or the day before. Which is unusual because it gives the prosecution the strategy for the defense. The article I posted in the other thread also said that some of the eyewitnesses have yet to be subpoenaed.

Which is why Defense Attorneys usually decline unless they believe the prosecution will not push for indictment.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Reading through all those short-arse tweets was almost as painful as this whole debacle.

Really? Reading though some tweets was as painful as watching all levels of state and local government cover up the murder of an unarmed man? As watching militarized police pointing sniper rifles at protesters and tear gassing neighborhoods, while scumbags use the situation as cover for looting?
 

Dude Abides

Banned
We understand how grand juries work just fine. The problem many of us have, is the DA, who by the way should have recused himself for several reasons, originally said well its going to be October, now its freaking January? How come we've heard from like 10 eye witnesses but not Darren Wilson? How come there is no incidents report? How come the authorities have fought tooth and nail the whole way? What it looks like is they are letting all the evidence come in so the defense can craft their story around the existing evidence and witness testimony.

This post indicates that you don't in fact know how grand juries work, and are not all that familiar with this one in particular, since you're apparently unaware that Wilson has testified.

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I don't think I can respond to this without being banned.

Well don't do that! The forum would certainly be poorer without hyperbolic reposting of other people's work and repeated use of the phrase gat damn.
 

watershed

Banned
Which is why Defense Attorneys usually decline unless the believe the prosecution will not push for indictment.

Yep, this is not looking good at all. It suggests that right now the DA is spelling out the reasons why he thinks the grand jury shouldn't indict Wilson.
 
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