Played this game for a while and loved it. Took a break to play Bravely Default when that came out, though, and found it really hard to get back into (mostly because of the map). The other day I bought Devil Survivor since it was on sale, and after playing a bit of that and seeing this thread and people talking about SMT4, I decided to try and go back to it. I'm getting into it pretty well now again. Such a good game.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |EU OT| Atlus Shrugged
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I heard that picking the first option on every choice brings you to neutral, if you keep yourself to mandatory choices, but I didn't test it. Alterning between good/bad choices doesn't necessarly work, as every choice doesn't bring necessarly the ame amount of alignment points.
To check your alignment: The "cynical man" in the bar in
Ikkebukero
I heard you can also simply check how your Icon spins on the world map: if it spins left you're law, right chaos, and if it spins back and forth, neutral. Small spoiler:
some "choices" aren't choices, you're force to take sometimes choices that brings you toward law, sometimes toward chaos. Don't rely on the indicators too much, it's possible that the last forced choice brings you out of neutral/law/chaos
tl;dr : save the neutral path for a NG+ with walkthrough.
If you want more details on the effect of each choice (spoiler of course), go here.
Every path has exclusive content (well, except maybe neutral, where there is only one quest that can only be completed when doing neutral).
Both Chaos and Law have also exclusive NG+ content, so technicaly, I think neutral would be best for a first run... but as I said above, I wouldn't recommend it, as it more or less requires you to follow a walkthrough.
That, and I seem to remember that neutral is the only path where you can find all Fiends, but I may be wrong.
Just answer like you want to. If you want to see the rest of the game, do a NG+ while keeping your level, that goes relatively fast.
That's right.
Red Rider is exclusive to Neutral and Trumpeter isn't available in Chaos path.
What? Goddamn, guess I'll have to do like 20 playthroughs.
Yeah it's the crazy amounts of dying, not knowing where you're going and possibly the setting and storytelling too. Dark Souls was inspired by western literature and stories and SMT does that as well in it's own way. I love it!
Reach the counter demon force base in Tokyo. You'll receive the equipment automaticly.
Oh, no mad searching then. Thank you for the heads up.
E_Darkness
Member
Just
and I'm just musing around now. Doing sidequests every now and again. I think I'm edging towards a chaos route currently.
The game is okay so far. I still prefer Strange Journey at this point. Playing SMTIV in a 3D environment makes me wish Strange Journey was on 3DS instead. The world would be lovely to see around you as you walked. But Strange Journey and this (and probably others) are annoying because the demon portraits are in inconsistent styles and quality.
Also I'm never
captured the Black Samurai
The game is okay so far. I still prefer Strange Journey at this point. Playing SMTIV in a 3D environment makes me wish Strange Journey was on 3DS instead. The world would be lovely to see around you as you walked. But Strange Journey and this (and probably others) are annoying because the demon portraits are in inconsistent styles and quality.
Also I'm never
taking the Black Demonica off. I DON'T CARE IF IT IS TOO WEAK, FUCKING MAKE ME SMTIV.
You can't miss them. They will always be there.
They will unlock as you go along the story. Since you're constantly talking to demons to recruit them you should always be up to date in that regard.
If handcuff lightning tells me that a challenge quest may be to hard (3 stars), should I refrain from trying it? I just beat the Medusa and ended up in
But she is still insisting that I'm too weak, even though I got those quests hours ago (the dragon of the lake?)
thanks. which ones are recommended?
Uedo
thanks. which ones are recommended?
speaking of buffs and debuffs: do they stack up? I remember that you could stack the same buff up to 5 times or something in soul hackers. but for some reason there is no indicator here if my characters even got buffs or not. Am I supposed to just remember whom I already buffed? also do they disappear after a set number of rounds?
Yeah they're really fucking weird lol
"hey let's go to some nice place to enjoy your day off"
"i've marked this quest"
what
I expect there's some shocking twist later on in the game where your friends die and it's dramatic as fuck and the hand thingie (Borough? can't remember) just goes "you're proceeding well on your quest!"
E_Darkness
Member
Press X in battle. It tells you.
Orniletter
Banned
I don´t know what was up with my 3DS, but the damn thing refused to download SMT IV in standby mode <.<
"Did you get all that?"
Yes yes yes!! :-(
In other news, I killed
Medusa
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah, I don't get this either. It's really weird.
I was just at the part where
The fight seemed tough at first, but I has a great idea to just hang around there and waiting for encounters. Managed to talk one of those leprechaun demons to my side and suddenly I had two fire users (Pele was the other), and one more level under my belt.
Breezed that fight just one next try, I've never felt this smart before lol.
some hooded guy summons two snakes against you when you reach Naraku's 3rd level.
The fight seemed tough at first, but I has a great idea to just hang around there and waiting for encounters. Managed to talk one of those leprechaun demons to my side and suddenly I had two fire users (Pele was the other), and one more level under my belt.
Breezed that fight just one next try, I've never felt this smart before lol.
Started it last night, only did the tutorial bit, but am already a fan of the game. Didn't think the start was all that difficult, or is it the bits that come now that will kill me?
If you don't already do it: Kill every demon except the one you want to talk to before doing so.
If you don't already do it: Kill every demon except the one you want to talk to before doing so.
The Cynical Man appears in every Hunter Association bar once he starts showing up. However, the bar in
Ikebukuro will be inactive, as it'll be completely trashed along with the rest of that area's underground by the time you get there
It's possible to get Neutral on a first playthrough, even without a walkthrough for the point values. I did at least, but it would likely be better to play through the game without fretting over whether you'll succeed in getting it (again, like I did). I wouldn't recommend going Chaos the first time unless you intend to replay it on the same alignment, as it's the only locked path with content exclusive to NG+.
Other than ones that just focus on upping damage, I found the paralysis rounds useful. You should keep an eye out for handguns that fire more than once as well (bazookas would likely be more useful against bosses, given their nature of targeting all enemies for multiple hits randomly).
Yeah, getting Neutral can be a bit of a crapshoot depending on your choices.
There's also a few choices you get presented with that don't seem terribly important, but can easily tilt the scales one way or another.
I'd say it would be fairly difficult to just "luck" into the Neutral path.
It's possible, but you're bound to either hit Chaos or Law.
There's also a few choices you get presented with that don't seem terribly important, but can easily tilt the scales one way or another.
I'd say it would be fairly difficult to just "luck" into the Neutral path.
It's possible, but you're bound to either hit Chaos or Law.
Absolutely. A notable one related to the already mentioned
Ikebukuro
an optional conversation with the woman in the freezer, who will ask if you're a human or a demon: it's worth TEN points toward either Law or Chaos respectively
Barrylocke
Member
Maybe it's because I did a High Luck/Agi build, but Instant Death rounds are ridiculously good for me. I've never touched the elemental ones since my MC uses two elements and I have the others spread out nicely among my demons.
I'm gonna say no. Swords only affect auto attacks and physical skills.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
If you want to procure ALL demons, you have to go Neutral. One of the fiends is locked behind a Neutral only door.
But there's no percentage completion in compendium so meh. This is such a bollocks thing. Why no % completion in compendium? Completely eradicate the I-gotta-catch-em-all drive from the game :/
Also, guns guy. Go guns! Guns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything in this game. It's so stupidly overpowered if you know how to set your guns and guns-related-skills.
Yep. By large, Swords are rather useless. Which makes STR also useless since even skills don't use it as a modifier. Garbage stat, avoid--unless you want to get the "best sword in the game" (which is meh)
You'll find it a bit later on, the first one you find is story related so it's impossible to miss.
I just reached Kiccigiorgi and I feel like I've got a decent handle on the game so far. When I found out they were using the in-world enemies and first hit system like Persona 4 I was worried. I enjoyed the coloured warning system with random battles in SMT3 and I wasn't a fan of how physical enemies worked in P4 where you would have to wait almost a minute at times to ensure you would get the first strike. But here it's just so much faster and more enjoyable. Once you've learned the speed of the various different enemy groups it's easy to anticipate them with your strike. I'm enjoying the characters and style so far too, the mix of Medieval and Japanese styles is an interesting one. The new art for the demons is hit and miss though, there isn't much consistency with styles and it's incredibly jarring when some demons like Pixie are still using their original art.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Just pay him one time and you can skip the long ass sequences afterwards.
I just look at the yellow dot above their head. as soon as it turns red, hit X.
That too but I think it's easy enough even without it.
That's what I did.
Of course I haven't died again since doing so...
E_Darkness
Member
Just the
domain. Did I mention I have a massive hard-on for the
Demonee-Ho
Demonica?
D
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The real SMT starts here.
NeonZ
Member
Physical skills do use STR as a modifier, the issue is that it's considered a secondary attribute compared to DEX.
Indeed.
IIRC, 3 points in Str have the same effect as 1 point in Dex for physical/gun skills.
E_Darkness
Member
Dex makes more sense to be better than strength. You're a samurai, I mean all those curved swords and shit are always dex weapons. I dunno...
But hey you're a mainline human who can use magic
, who needs swords?
But hey you're a mainline human who can use magic
that isn't a demon
Tizoc
Member
I clench my buttocks whenever a Demon smirks.
Seems my Hero is weak to fire, how do I get around that?
Also I did my first demon fusion and...I got this!
Sucker 1 hit KOs most of the enemies XD.
Did someone post a link to a site that shows the best answers to Demon questions to increae the chances of them joining you? Sick of always failing Scouts with some of these fuckers...
Seems my Hero is weak to fire, how do I get around that?
Also I did my first demon fusion and...I got this!
Sucker 1 hit KOs most of the enemies XD.
Did someone post a link to a site that shows the best answers to Demon questions to increae the chances of them joining you? Sick of always failing Scouts with some of these fuckers...
Orniletter
Banned
That was one tough tutorial dungeon <.<
I clench my buttocks whenever a Demon smirks.
Seems my Hero is weak to fire, how do I get around that?
Also I did my first demon fusion and...I got this!
Sucker 1 hit KOs most of the enemies XD.
Did someone post a link to a site that shows the best answers to Demon questions to increae the chances of them joining you? Sick of always failing Scouts with some of these fuckers...
Your MC changes resistances/weaknesses depending on the armour he is wearing (so far, upper body armour) . Buy and equip different sets that you think will help.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
When do bosses start to get challenging?