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Shinji Mikami's THE EVIL WITHIN |OT| Where's everyone going? Tango?
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NoirVisage
Banned
He's the father of survisurvival horror, if he says his new game is a return to survival horror that's what it is, this isn't opinion this is common sense, you name your children whatever the heck you want, call me out of my name and I'd get man suplex you.
I'm not sure if you're serious about any of that, but that game is a classic action game that played by its own rules, i can't help it if you got your behind rocked in the first encounter with an enemy and instead of conceding to your lack of skill at its mechanics feel your opinion invalidates those who have beaten and loved the game like myself.
I'm talking about Survival horror. Seriously.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm not actually against an occasional jump scare, they're just......easy. When I think back on a horror experience, whether that be a game or movie, and think "Was that good horror?", it's not the jump scares I go to, especially if they're overused. Like, a jump scare has to be GOAT status for me to not mentally dispose of it. A thick, oppressive, lasting atmosphere and tension is much more impressive and important to me.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
For me The Last of Us wasn't anything close to horror. The main "reason," as you say, is the environmental design didn't in any way convey a sense of dread, nor did any enemy outside of the clikers. It had (light) elements of horror, for sure. So does a game like Metroid. But not many people go around calling it a horror game of any sort. And they're right, just as those who say TLOU isn't horror are right.
Sanctuary
Member
Man, you really are hopeless. The genre didn't just manifsest in 1996 either, it just became majorly mainstream and refined. He's the father of modern Surival Horror, not the father of the genre itself.
I have only truly been scared by a one horror movie. The original Halloween. To a lesser extent Demons, but for much different reasons. Otherwise, it's all about the jump scares to get a reaction out of me. When I look back at a movie, it's more about a) did it have a captivating atmosphere and b) was the story/premise good and c) was the acting above B grade, Barbie Doll shit?
They're also best when done sparingly, like the ending of Dead Space or something out of nowhere like the Oven Man.
Dunno if you played Outlast but it was a good example of a game that pretty much constantly had GOTCHA moments with jump scares.
NoirVisage
Banned
The other fella with the game will have a review up sometime tomorrow:
"Finally! Just finished The Evil Within for the Playstation 4. The game took me 15 hours and 40 minutes (15:40:06) with 73 deaths (yes, you will die A LOT) to finish my first playthrough.
I'm now gonna sleep. My first draft review will be up either today night or tomorrow evening."
I WARNED YOU MANG!
"Finally! Just finished The Evil Within for the Playstation 4. The game took me 15 hours and 40 minutes (15:40:06) with 73 deaths (yes, you will die A LOT) to finish my first playthrough.
I'm now gonna sleep. My first draft review will be up either today night or tomorrow evening."
That ain't my name and you know it!
I WARNED YOU MANG!
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Don't listen just cause it's a review. There's a reason behind quality and it's not spoiling another person's experience.The other fella with the game will have a review up sometime tomorrow:
"Finally! Just finished The Evil Within for the Playstation 4. The game took me 15 hours and 40 minutes (15:40:06) with 73 deaths (yes, you will die A LOT) to finish my first playthrough.
I'm now gonna sleep. My first draft review will be up either today night or tomorrow evening."
That ain't my name and you know it!
I WARNED YOU MANG!
Sanctuary
Member
That ain't my name and you know it!
I WARNED YOU MANG!
Ok, that is pretty awesome.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Yup, been hearing from a few people chapter 6 is significantly longer than the previous chapters. At the same point, the other players time was 6:06:27.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Possibly. SoM did
Talk to some traders. See what's going on or get a friend to get it and pay them back
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Another player who got the game a few days ago (but been light on details, but definitely has it, posted some gameplay and unboxing and stuff) finishes the game (PS4 version for this one).
"Finally! Just finished The Evil Within for the Playstation 4. The game took me 15 hours and 40 minutes (15:40:06) with 73 deaths (yes, you will die A LOT) to finish my first playthrough.
I'm now gonna sleep. My first draft review will be up either today night or tomorrow evening."
"Finally! Just finished The Evil Within for the Playstation 4. The game took me 15 hours and 40 minutes (15:40:06) with 73 deaths (yes, you will die A LOT) to finish my first playthrough.
I'm now gonna sleep. My first draft review will be up either today night or tomorrow evening."
Net_Wrecker
Member
It's not that they don't get a reaction out of me, they can, but that's my problem. LOUD NOISE AND THING HAPPENING ON SCREEN is boring. You shut the light off and concentrate on anything long enough and you can be startled like that. But the key word is "startled." It's a fleeting feeling. A car horn going off unexpectedly as you walk by can accomplish the same thing.
Unease and/or tension, on the other hand, are impressive as hell. If something can immerse me to the point that I get uncomfortable with its methods, that's what I remember above all. And not uncomfortable in the sense that I'm disgusted (like eye horror uggggh), but just uncomfortable in the weird, twisted atmosphere. David Lynch's work, for example, is better at this than damn near all traditional horror media.
Constant jump scares just makes me numb. I start thinking too much about the experience and become detached. Like in a game I'll start thinking about how large the intervals between scares were, and how devs designed the environment to try and trick me, etc. If it starts feeling too artificial, my brain checks out like that Simpsons gif where Homer's mind floats away.
Sanctuary
Member
I can't think of the last time over the last decade where this wasn't an issue for me. Prior to Demon's Souls that is. Praising that game (and to a lesser extent Dark) for anything anymore has almost become cliche, but it really was so absolutely amazing with its atmosphere and sense of "oh fuck, what's around the corner?" gameplay. And hell, a good portion of the time after you saw what was around the corner, it was like "okay, now what do I do?".
Not since the original King's Field did I get so caught up in a game.
The Xtortionist
Member
Preach breh. Jump scares can fuck off.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Ugh, there are several streams online right now and i'm so tempted to watch ( .__.)
NoirVisage
Banned
Searching nao!
Sanctuary
Member
Just go watch: Breaking Bad, Supernatural, Orange Is the New Black, House of Cards, Lost, Fringe, Arrow, Mad Men or Sons of Anarchy on Netflix if you haven't seen them yet.
Watching the 360 one. Looks like so much fun. The image quality is meh though but I suppose that (apart from it being last gen) is due to the stream (menus look blurry etc.).
Good to see it runs well. It's just like RE4. Very nice.
Lucent
Member
Resist the urge! lol. I'm just gonna keep playing my PS+ games until this is out. Dust and Pix the Cat are helping out.
Sanctuary
Member
Death Metalist
Member
Finally got it. Now the long wait for the 7.5GB update till it finishes. Feel free to PM whatever you want to know about the game and i'll answer all of your questions in the spoiler thread with pictures (if you asked for them) and the like.
-MD-
Member
Siiiiiigh.
Unfuckingbelievable.
What happens if you set your console to english and then start the game?
Intheflorsh
Banned
Man, I wonder if this is how they're going to fight cross region sellers from now on.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Everybody is playing already
GAAAAAAAAAAAABE
;_;
See above: sets it to French.
So the usual with 4 languages German, French, Spanish and Italian seems to be the case as with most other Bethesda releases in mainland Europe.
Annoying certainly but from the streams I could gather that the dub is not that bad. It also seems to be a game that I might double dib so I might get the UK or US version sometime along the way.
Streams: there are by the way 24 up and running over at Twitch at the moment. I think they just don't care about closing them anymore. So everyone on the fence, just go and have a look.
Sanctuary
Member
Just look at it this way: you'll be able to experience the game for the first time on Tuesday and people playing it now won't.
It's a good time to do the housework you've been putting off too.
that's really bad, I probably would have skipped the game if I had no access to the english version via US PSN.
I thought about that as well. But the chance of getting it early made the decision a bit easier. That and also the added reasons above. Getting it another time on a sale seems to be a given.
Edit: Languages can be changed in the option menu but the choices are the same (German, French, Spanish, Italian).
rottingcore
Banned
Man, everybody streaming gets stuck at the same part - and it's one of the most boring action sequences i have ever seen in a video game. I am just hoping that these streams aren't indicative of the game as whole.
Also, why does this game look so bad visually? Isn't it running on the RAGE engine?
Also, why does this game look so bad visually? Isn't it running on the RAGE engine?
The Xtortionist
Member
Broke down and watched a bit of a stream. Think they were in chapter 6.
Looks fucking amazing. Also, dat nearby save room music and dose skippable (what I presume are) real time cutscenes. ugggghhhhh I WANT IT NOW
I saw him face off with a chainsaw enemy after getting locked in an area (this encounter setup is so RE4 it hurts 
...and dat huge green gel pickup on his corpse DDDDD) and navigate a broken bridge.
...and dat huge green gel pickup on his corpse DDDDD) and navigate a broken bridge.so there wont be any possibility to play with englisch voices and german subtitles?_?
Nope. Just those 4 languages are there to choose from.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
Member
I think "Bad" is the wrong adjective. "Uneven" may be more accurate. The character models look great and some of the lightning looks simply fantastic, but then they will pass by a doorframe that has a really oddly poor texture on it or something to that effect. ID Tech 5 was an odd engine when released and time has not been too kind to it, but it is still a far cry from "bad."
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's here
Now I have the game but where's my console??? Ahh come on, MS!!!
Now I have the game but where's my console??? Ahh come on, MS!!!
Well mine came from Gamestop (UK) now:
Can't play until release anyway, yay Steam! But with all the worrying PC-port info that's turned up in the last few days, I'll probably just wait for some solid info on the stability of 60fps first, and find out whether my graphics card will be able to scrape by on 1080p.
Fingers crossed we get some good news on it, else it'll be returned, and picked up for £5 in a sale at some point
Can't play until release anyway, yay Steam! But with all the worrying PC-port info that's turned up in the last few days, I'll probably just wait for some solid info on the stability of 60fps first, and find out whether my graphics card will be able to scrape by on 1080p.
Fingers crossed we get some good news on it, else it'll be returned, and picked up for £5 in a sale at some point
Jimmyfenix
Member
Resident evil 1.5 would have been better than resident evil 2.
Magic Mushroom
Member
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
If you guys nag Bethesda on their forums or Twitter I can see them adding English voices and subtitles as free DLC for European copies.
The Xtortionist
Member
Yeah. For me, jump scares are super lame but tension and oppressive atmosphere are both welcome.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
This should start pre-loading on PSN early tomorrow. My bods def Reggie.
Sanctuary
Member
Don't be crazy.