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SHOOTEMBER Wrasslin' 2016 |OT2| Sometimes You Just Need to Shoot for a Double
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Sandow's promos post-Mizdow were fucking terrible.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
Is it just me or is the wet hair and goatee look just the absolute most blandest look out there in all of pro wrestling today? Rollins and Reigns just seem interchangable to me at this point after looking at them in succesion.
Rusev too.
It's like these fuckers believe in the whole Samson and Delilah story. Styles and Bryan circa Summer 13' is the best look if you want the long hair + facial hair combo and it ain't even close.
Rusev too.
It's like these fuckers believe in the whole Samson and Delilah story. Styles and Bryan circa Summer 13' is the best look if you want the long hair + facial hair combo and it ain't even close.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
Fuck it! FAVE FIVE TIME
1.) TJ Perkins
2.) Gran Metalik
3.) Chris Jericho
4.) Rich Swann
5.) The Miz
AJ's kinda coasting right now but that's fine he can rest. He should rest a bit. I have nothing to like about Raw other than Owens and Jericho heeling it up week after week but that shit isn't worth my three hours.
Gran Metalik's theme upgrade from dope to doper has just been a treat to listen to.
And what the fuck else can I say about Rich Swann's theme?
1.) TJ Perkins
2.) Gran Metalik
3.) Chris Jericho
4.) Rich Swann
5.) The Miz
CWC ruled
AJ's kinda coasting right now but that's fine he can rest. He should rest a bit. I have nothing to like about Raw other than Owens and Jericho heeling it up week after week but that shit isn't worth my three hours.
Gran Metalik's theme upgrade from dope to doper has just been a treat to listen to.
And what the fuck else can I say about Rich Swann's theme?
Worse than The Old Day.
Just repeating what the other person was saying in an annoying voice like he's 5 years old.
Legitimately had to turn it off. People forget how bad that was.
I guess DQ for murder?
None of those are the newly-released Female Prisoner No.701 collection.
Uno Venova
Banned
I actually love enough wrestlers currently to do a real Fave Five.
AJ Styles
Samoa Joe
Chris Jericho
Charlotte
The Usos
Charlotte. The only real heel left on Raw.
AJ Styles
Samoa Joe
Chris Jericho
Charlotte
The Usos
Charlotte. The only real heel left on Raw.
Professor Beef
Banned
Roman "The Big Dawg" Reigns
The New Day
Alexa Bliss
AJ Styles
The Usos
The New Day
Alexa Bliss
AJ Styles
The Usos
I find it hard to do any kind of real fav five because I don't actually really give too much of a shit about in-ring performance. Sure, I like to watch Cesaro and AJ wrestle more than I like to watch Ambrose or Big Show, because it's more immediately exciting - but it leaves no lasting imprint on me at all, really, just to witness impressive pro wrestling. And honestly, half the time, I can't tell bad from good. I seriously don't see what is so good about Bret Hart vs Stone Cold at WM13. It's boring to me! So slow. I enjoyed D Bry's wrestlemania 30 run but I'm not like, astounded by his little kicks. What makes him so good? I could be made to understand it, but I'll never feel it.
To me the in ring stuff is like a passing curiosity. No matter the era - pre-Attitude era stuff I look into now, Attitude Era, the Lapsed Era (which I think is an appropriate name for Post WM17 - 20?? you choose, maybe it continues) and now.
Pretty much the only situations where I'll sit and watch a match all the way are a) if i'm watching it live and therefore cannot skip through it (in which case I'll just leave it on in the background) or b) in the rare case when I have emotional investment in the ongoing developments beyond just 'who wins'.
But b) only happens 6 or 7 times a year since I came back to wrestling in 2014.
I suppose there is also novelty that sometimes catches my eye - ie Shinsuke's first match in the WWE, very entertaining. Haven't really sat down like that and watched closely since though. Or the cruiserweight match on RAW - there's definitely more to see there before I've seen it all so I'll keep an eye on this.
The truth is, wrestling itself IS boring, the second you know it is fake. I don't watch wrestling, I follow it. I don't know why but the business of it continues to fascinate me - booking decisions, controversies, the anatomy of the shows from lighting to match stipulations.
I spend probably 1-2 hours total on a non-PPV week actually watching wrestling and probably about 10 hours reading about it. Today I spent half the afternoon going through the wikipedia page of every New Generation PPV.
It really is the weirdest thing. I wonder why I manage to be interested in the production of a television show I am not interested enough in to watch. It's only when things completely out of the ordinary happen that I need to tune in and see. An unexpected title change. The return of a suspended superstar, how will they be presented. Etc.
But wrestling? It's all the same. After I see two or three matches by any wrestler, I never need to see another one unless they're doing something nuts like jumping off Hell In A Cell. The whole storytelling thing - it's the same story in the ring every time. I really don't see what working a particular limb adds to it beyond a little extra verisimilitude.
Anyone else?
To me the in ring stuff is like a passing curiosity. No matter the era - pre-Attitude era stuff I look into now, Attitude Era, the Lapsed Era (which I think is an appropriate name for Post WM17 - 20?? you choose, maybe it continues) and now.
Pretty much the only situations where I'll sit and watch a match all the way are a) if i'm watching it live and therefore cannot skip through it (in which case I'll just leave it on in the background) or b) in the rare case when I have emotional investment in the ongoing developments beyond just 'who wins'.
But b) only happens 6 or 7 times a year since I came back to wrestling in 2014.
I suppose there is also novelty that sometimes catches my eye - ie Shinsuke's first match in the WWE, very entertaining. Haven't really sat down like that and watched closely since though. Or the cruiserweight match on RAW - there's definitely more to see there before I've seen it all so I'll keep an eye on this.
The truth is, wrestling itself IS boring, the second you know it is fake. I don't watch wrestling, I follow it. I don't know why but the business of it continues to fascinate me - booking decisions, controversies, the anatomy of the shows from lighting to match stipulations.
I spend probably 1-2 hours total on a non-PPV week actually watching wrestling and probably about 10 hours reading about it. Today I spent half the afternoon going through the wikipedia page of every New Generation PPV.
It really is the weirdest thing. I wonder why I manage to be interested in the production of a television show I am not interested enough in to watch. It's only when things completely out of the ordinary happen that I need to tune in and see. An unexpected title change. The return of a suspended superstar, how will they be presented. Etc.
But wrestling? It's all the same. After I see two or three matches by any wrestler, I never need to see another one unless they're doing something nuts like jumping off Hell In A Cell. The whole storytelling thing - it's the same story in the ring every time. I really don't see what working a particular limb adds to it beyond a little extra verisimilitude.
Anyone else?
Re:Zero and Mob Psycho are great. Re:Zero does an amazing job of giving you every shitty anime protag and then grinding him to pieces until he starts being good.
avengers23
Banned
holy shit we found Jeff Gerstmann's GAF account
Uno Venova
Banned
70s man, way too old for someone as hip as me.
Orange is great, too.
Anything in my FAVE FIVE is better than anything wrestling has done in at least three years.
Worktober is next month.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'm not reading all that no matter how many times yall quote it #Shootember
Professor Beef
Banned
A friendly reminder that Chris Jericho said Bray Wyatt "will be world champion within a year." That was one year ago on October 15th...three weeks away from today.
Worked kickboxing?!
i just want it to be clear i'm not saying 'can't believe you idiots all give a damn about the in ring stuff', it's more that i feel left out, just not getting a certain kind of enjoyment out of it a lot of the time. and it's becoming clear to me that once wrestling gets you back...it's fucking got you, so i don't think i'm going anywhere any time soon.
I stopped reading in the first sentence because he said he doesn't care about the actual wrestling. Which is fine, but yeah, personally I watch for the wrestling.
my wrestling fan attention span prevents me from reading all of this
Uno Venova
Banned
On the subject I've always cared way more about promos & storylines compared to the in ring wrestling.
Professor Beef
Banned
That's my feeling on it too. The larger than life personalities, and such.
British Monsoon
Member
I generally find much of WWE's in-ring output to be very samey, it's all so homogenised and with the squeaky clean production it doesn't do much for me these days. You want in-ring storytelling, watch something else.
I care about if the match has any heat, then the work rate, then the story.
For example Hogan Rock X8 is fucking amazing.
Creating those moments is why wrestling is great.
but "moments" are usually carried by storylines and characters, not wrestling
at least that's how I see it and that's what I love
There's truth in this.
Professor Beef
Banned
Punk/Cena in Chicago was another one. That crowd, WHEW.
Well yeah for me this is the case too - the issue with WWE right now is, the promos are very lacking across the board with a few bright spots. If the stories were more engaging then I'd watch more matches. I said I was playing devil's advocate a bit before because -, while it is true many matches people consider to be classics, I can't stay focused on - I know that the stimulus for that post was I was looking at the Clash of the Champions and thinking 'man I like Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins but this PPV looks pretty boring. Nothing interesting is going on', while realising the match quality will probably be high and I will be entertained in the moment while I am watching.
I get the impression it's a pretty common thing - adults who watch spending a lot of time reading dirt sheet rumours and backstage drama. It makes total sense - it just adds another layer of story onto what you see on screen because alone, y'know, Cesaro vs Sheamus isn't that interesting. The prospects for Cesaro's career if they aren't even gonna give him this though, that's a little bit of drama I can latch on to, all the while Cesaro remains a terrible promo with no actual gimmick beyond 'is a good wrestler'. And I like Cesaro!
It's interesting to me that a few of you are just like 'what the fuck?' to my post. I knew there were a bunch of guys in here who were all about the in ring, but I figured I wouldn't be the only one would would probably rank that 3rd on the list of reasons why you continue to watch/
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