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[Kodaman]

Made myself a wallpaper from the bonfire image. If anyone else wants to use it:

ty for that!


looks great on my desktop

 

[nowai]

Backed fo sho...and also shamelessly made the bonfire scene my FB cover photo.

 

[Echoes]

Backed fo sho...and also shamelessly made the bonfire scene my FB cover photo.

Great idea! Stealed for my FB, too.

I've been playing Rockman World games (GB) the past few days; finished 1 and 2 and currently playing 3. Portable MMs are really fun, and I'm also glad we're getting all the NES games by June on the 3DS. I just can't wait for Shovel Knight, it hit all the right notes for me.

Also, for playable knight, I think Polar Knight has a potential to really be fun and different in play style. For example, I imagine him being able to jump and hit the ground heavily, making some sections (like the falling chandeliers) relatively easy -- stomp, let them fall and shatter, and continue. Many other possibilities, too.

 

[AstroZombie]

4k away from playable boss knight no. 2

 

[Anbec7]

This looks amazing I got money until Thursday D:
So if I support with $15 I can choose the WiiU version?

 

[Hero]

Made myself a wallpaper from the bonfire image. If anyone else wants to use it:

Using this as well, thanks.

 

[abstract alien]

I was always going to pledge from the very beginning but I just had to see how much money I could afford first.

FEELS GREAT.

Humanity, saved.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

finally backed today as well. Wii U version here I come

 

[Teppic]

This looks amazing I got money until Thursday D:
So if I support with $15 I can choose the WiiU version?

Yes.

 

[added_time]

This looks amazing I got money until Thursday D:
So if I support with $15 I can choose the WiiU version?

Yes, for $15, you can choose any version you want.

 

[Thoraxes]

Get it on everything

It's on the table as we speak.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Get it on everything

It's on the table as we speak.

This sounds kinda dirty

I'm leaning towards 3DS version atm, but mainly because I still don't have a Vita.

Well, I've also warmed up to the 3D on the 3DS, in small doses anyway.

 

[VandalD]

Glad to see this doing so well. It wasn't even funded when I threw my meager bit of money. Hoping it gets to challenge mode!

 

[Salsa]

still no paypal?

 

[nowai]

Great idea! Stealed for my FB, too.

I've been playing Rockman World games (GB) the past few days; finished 1 and 2 and currently playing 3. Portable MMs are really fun, and I'm also glad we're getting all the NES games by June on the 3DS. I just can't wait for Shovel Knight, it hit all the right notes for me.

Also, for playable knight, I think Polar Knight has a potential to really be fun and different in play style. For example, I imagine him being able to jump and hit the ground heavily, making some sections (like the falling chandeliers) relatively easy -- stomp, let them fall and shatter, and continue. Many other possibilities, too.

This is the image I went with for FB.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Will EU backers also recieve a eShop code or is it again a US exclusive affair ?

 

[Suzzopher]

Will EU backers also recieve a eShop code or is it again a US exclusive affair ?

I'd like to know this too, I haven't backed it yet as I can't find that information.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

I'd like to know this too, I haven't backed it yet as I can't find that information.

try contacting them on twitter.

 

[dani_dc]

For anyone curious, it seems that you'll need to pay $15 to get a Steam version (if it get accepted into steam), while $10 will get you a DRM-Free version.

At the $10 backer tier, we will send you a plain old PC version. Just an executable that sits in a folder somewhere on your computer.

At the $15 backer tier, we will send out a poll asking which version you would like. The planned options would be 3DS, Wii U, Steam (if Greenlit), or DRM-free PC. If you are hoping to receive a Steam version of the game from your Kickstarter pledge then this would be the tier to match.

Source

 

[nowai]

For anyone curious, it seems that you'll need to pay $15 to get a Steam version (if it get accepted into steam), while $10 will get you a DRM-Free version

Thanks for the heads up. Threw in an extra $5 in for Steam backlog goodness.

 

[Nabs]

For anyone curious, it seems that you'll need to pay $15 to get a Steam version (if it get accepted into steam), while $10 will get you a DRM-Free version.



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I understand why the Nintendo codes cost $15, but why are we paying the same price for a code that Steam provides for free?

 

[Hero]

I understand why the Nintendo codes cost $15, but why are we paying the same price for a code that Steam provides for free?

Because Steam takes a cut of their share from every code sold/sent?

 

[CDX]

I understand why the Nintendo codes cost $15, but why are we paying the same price for a code that Steam provides for free?

Here is what they said in the Kickstarter comments

 

[zroid]

I hope you guys wanting a Steam version don't get burned if it's not greenlit...

I'd like to think it's a shoo-in considering the KS success and media buzz, but you never can tell with Greenlight.

 

[CDX]

I hope you guys wanting a Steam version don't get burned if it's not greenlit...

I'd like to think it's a shoo-in considering the KS success and media buzz, but you never can tell with Greenlight.

yeah, all this talk about a potential Steam version will be for nothing if it doesn't get greenlit

 

[VandalD]

For anyone curious, it seems that you'll need to pay $15 to get a Steam version (if it get accepted into steam), while $10 will get you a DRM-Free version.

Good to know. I guess I was mistaken that they plan to go on GOG. Maybe I confused that with Divinity somehow. I'd be fine with just the DRM-free version, unless it had online play. Can always just add the shortcut to Steam.

 

[Exuro]

Because Steam takes a cut of their share from every code sold/sent?

Don't think this is true. There's only a cut that's sold on the store itself.

 

[Nabs]

Because Steam takes a cut of their share from every code sold/sent?

"Once your game is accepted for distribution on Steam, we will give you as many keys for your game as you want at no cost." http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/faq/

 

[tjohn86]

I hope you guys wanting a Steam version don't get burned if it's not greenlit...

I'd like to think it's a shoo-in considering the KS success and media buzz, but you never can tell with Greenlight.

I kind of want to pledge but that has me kind of nervous too..

 

[Salsa]

Because Steam takes a cut of their share from every code sold/sent?

not true


also this is obviously getting greenlit. I get the worrying but this game is fucking popular at this point, and that's all it needs

 

[Hero]

Don't think this is true. There's only a cut that's sold on the store itself.

"Once your game is accepted for distribution on Steam, we will give you as many keys for your game as you want at no cost." http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/faq/

not true


also this is obviously getting greenlit. I get the worrying but this game is fucking popular at this point, and that's all it needs

I see the link and read the relevant part but not sure why YCG would lie about that.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I know it's not reliable but the Greenlight page has generated almost 50 pages of comments, largely positive as far as I can tell. The smallest amount on a greenlit game was ~70.

 

[jon bones]

Guess I'm upping my pledge to $15 for dat Steam version.

 

[Gbraga]

"Once your game is accepted for distribution on Steam, we will give you as many keys for your game as you want at no cost." http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/faq/

Damn, I want to know the reason for the $5 boost now. Not that I mind, I'd pay $5 more gladly even to stay with the DRM Free version, but that's bullshit if there's no additional cost involved.

 

[morningbus]

For anyone curious, it seems that you'll need to pay $15 to get a Steam version (if it get accepted into steam), while $10 will get you a DRM-Free version.



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I hope they clarify this soon. I may pull my pledge because of this.

Steam does not charge for keys.

 

[honorless]

I see the link and read the relevant part but not sure why YCG would lie about that.

I don't think they're lying so much as ignorant, which is worrisome in its own way.

I'm interested in this game and have pledged, but I have to admit certain parts of this KS rub me the wrong way.

 

[Hero]

I don't think they're lying so much as ignorant, which is worrisome in its own way.

I'm interested in this game and have pledged, but I have to admit certain parts of this KS rub me the wrong way.

At worst I guess it's just another example of what a complete and utter failure Greenlight is.

 

[zroid]

What else rubs you the wrong way?

 

[morningbus]

At worst I guess it's just another example of what a complete and utter failure Greenlight is.

How is this a failure of Steam Greenlight? I assume the problem is that YCG thinks Steam works like the consoles, where you have to pay for the key.

 

[kuppy]

Update #14: Paypal, and our Art Process, Revealed!

I backed it a while ago and am really happy how's it doing.
Would have loved to take the soundtrack right away with my reward, but well, so I will buy it afterwards.

 

[Hero]

How is this a failure of Steam Greenlight? I assume the problem is that YCG thinks Steam works like the consoles, where you have to pay for the key.

It was a joke.

 

[jett]

Maybe the generation of keys doesn't have a cost but Steam is most definitely taking a cut from each game sold, how could it not?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Maybe the generation of keys doesn't have a cost but Steam is most definitely taking a cut from each game sold, how could it not?

Taking a cut from each game sold through the Steam store, yes.

 

[morningbus]

It was a joke.

Sorry, your joke was too real. The Greenlight thread is currently a mess.

Maybe the generation of keys doesn't have a cost but Steam is most definitely taking a cut from each game sold, how could it not?

As Glass Rebel said, they only take a cut when the sale is made through the store.

They will generate keys for literally any game on Steam at the request of the publisher and for free. Why? Either they're the nicest guys in the world or, ultimately, it feeds more people back into their ecosystem so they absorb the loss but keep or acquire a customer.

 

[jett]

Sorry, your joke was too real. The Greenlight thread is currently a mess.



As Glass Rebel said, they only take a cut when the sale is made through the store.

They will generate keys for literally any game on Steam at the request of the publisher and for free. Why? Either they're the nicest guys in the world or, ultimately, it feeds more people back into their ecosystem so they absorb the loss but keep or acquire a customer.

Well, okay.

 

[zroid]

The thing is, I assume Valve would get seriously pissed off if devs started requesting free Steam codes and then selling them behind their backs and taking more of the profit at a lower cost to consumers. I know they haven't taken a stance on this in previous Kickstarters, but if they're considering the KS pledge as a "sale" of that Steam code, it would make sense they'd want to disallow it.

Just speculating, of course.

 

[Het_Nkik]

Hmm, even the LabZero guys in their crowdfunding campaign raised the price of the reward tiers late in the campaign, and I'm 99% sure they said it was because they ran out of Steam keys at x price and had to charge more for the newer y price.

 

[Glass Rebel]

The thing is, I assume Valve would get seriously pissed off if devs started requesting free Steam codes and then selling them behind their backs and take more of the profit at a lower cost to consumers. I know they haven't taken a stance on this in previous Kickstarters, but if they're considering the KS pledge as a "sale" of that Steam code, it would make sense they'd want to disallow it.

Just speculating, of course.

This is how it has worked for the past few years and so far there's nothing indicating that it'll change. To Valve the long-term benefits outweigh the costs.

 

[morningbus]

The thing is, I assume Valve would get seriously pissed off if devs started requesting free Steam codes and then selling them behind their backs and take more of the profit at a lower cost to consumers. I know they haven't taken a stance on this in previous Kickstarters, but if they're considering the KS pledge as a "sale" of that Steam code, it would make sense that they'd want to disallow it.

Just speculating, of course.

I really don't think they care at the moment and a few random Kickstarters isn't going to be the thing that changes their mind. Entire businesses have been built around people selling Steam keys. Amazon's Download department and Green Man Gaming were tiny blips in the market until they started offering Steam keys for basically everything.

Humble Bundle operates the same way, including the Humble store applet many indies have on their own websites now.

Hmm, even the LabZero guys in their crowdfunding campaign raised the price of the reward tiers late in the campaign, and I'm 99% sure they said it was because they ran out of Steam keys at x price and had to charge more for the newer y price.

That was a different scenario as the Indiegogo campaign was specifically for the DLC, which they were funding independently of their publisher. LabZero had to go back to their publisher and request the keys for the game, effectively costing the publisher its sale. The publisher gave the key to LabZero basically at cost, which is what they then charged for.

 

[Nabs]

Hmm, even the LabZero guys in their crowdfunding campaign raised the price of the reward tiers late in the campaign, and I'm 99% sure they said it was because they ran out of Steam keys at x price and had to charge more for the newer y price.

Lab Zero had to pay their publisher (Marvelous AQL) for the codes.