Shuhei Yoshida mentions Sony likes Nintendo doing well because they hope Nintendo fans might "graduate to more mature systems" like PlayStation

It's like gays rooting for straight couples to have kids, so eventually they will grow up and come out as gays too.
 
The irony of that coming from sony, "graduate to a more mature system like playstation?" the same playstation that gets their games censored to fuck because heaven forbid boobs be shown. How many games flew by uncensored on switch yet ps versions had steam covering or beams of light censoring even the most tamest of stuff. Sony still stuck in the 90's thinking mature games don't come out on switch

notice how it's always either sony or microsoft that have these flappy lipped fucks that can't shut up about the competition, how often do you see nintendo pulling this petty tit for tat shit, instead they just keep their focus & concentrate releasing games.
 
rodrigolfp said:
We spend far less time fighting the PC vs with long loading screens in pre PS5 era games.
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It's not like PC didn't have loading screen (and still has as direct storage usage is very low on PC)
Not to mention common hurdle of getting through extra launchers on PC
 
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I only have a PS5 left this gen and this is fucking stupid and silly. "Mature" as in holding up to slow walk while an NPC babbles in my ear for ten minutes with no gameplay, brilliant.
 
The virgins who the only girl they've ever kissed is Mum, that will be the day LOL

But in all honesty, I think Shuhei Yoshida has lost it a bit
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Shuhei sounds stupid as fuck in some of these interviews. Definitely was time for him to leave.

We need honest to god console warriors in PS leadership. There's no other way.
 
LakeOf9 said:
I told you what the issue is already, you have chosen to ignore it:



We literally have third parties on the record stating that they regret ignoring the Switch audience on the Nintendo, and we have third parties continuing to make impossible ports to the original Switch (Ace Combat 7, Kingdom Come Deliverance) to this day, do you think they are doing it for fun?

EA Sports games have been day one on Switch for years btw, and as I mentioned, they frequently outsell the Xbox versions (and depending on the country, such as Spain or France, they may even outsell the PS versions sometime).

This isn't a Switch issue, you are right. It was a Wii and Wii U issue. It's not a Switch issue. Your mindset, and the data it is based on, is at least a decade or so out of date.
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Hardly any third party games as best sellers. Hardly any EA Sports either aside from some legacy FIFA games. Doing a quick skim one Madden game (Madden 26), no golf, no hockey, no UFC, no F1 etc... Last COD game on a Nintendo system were a couple Wii U games over a decade ago. No GTA 4 or 5 etc... No Elden Ring on Switch 1 (wiki says coming to Switch 2). Other big sellers that didnt come to Switch:

- Wukong
- Death Stranding
- Red Dead 2
- Destiny games
- PUBG
- Battlefield
- Any big recent FF games (Switch did get many ports of old PS1 and PS2 FF games in 2019)

I dont know why you are defending lack of third party Switch games or sales thresholds. Nintendo systems skew heavy to first party favs. That's basically it and there's nothing wrong with that for any gamer who likes their first party games.

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List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia

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StreetsofBeige said:
Hardly any third party games as best sellers. Hardly any EA Sports either aside from some legacy FIFA games. Doing a quick skim one Madden game (Madden 26), no golf, no hockey, no UFC, no F1 etc... Last COD game on a Nintendo system were a couple Wii U games over a decade ago. No GTA 4 or 5 etc... No Elden Ring on Switch 1 (wiki says coming to Switch 2). Other big sellers that didnt come to Switch:

- Wukong
- Death Stranding
- Red Dead 2
- Destiny games
- PUBG
- Battlefield
- Any big recent FF games (Switch did get many ports of old PS1 and PS2 FF games in 2019)

I dont know why you are defending lack of third party Switch games or sales thresholds. Nintendo systems skew heavy to first party favs. That's basically it and there's nothing wrong with that for any gamer who likes their first party games.

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List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia

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Maybe if third parties actually reported sales breakdowns, they would be on here? Unless you believe Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, or GTA never sold anything on PS5 your source is bunk.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Most of my post shows games that arent even on Switch to begin with. All big popular games and not one on Switch. So zero sales means zero.
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We're going around in circles. I have told you what the facts are, and what the limitations of the data you are using are. If you want to continue to believe Nintendo gets no third party support because people don't buy third party games on there, have at it

Btw: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/06/16/cyberpunk-2077-is-the-switch-2s-2-launch-game/
 
This was true for me until about my mid 20s. Then, I got a demanding job, married, had a bunch of kids and realized that Nintendo makes games catered to my busy lifestyle as well as family friendly games that we can all pick up and play. Really, Nintendo is wise to stick to the masses.
 
Jinxed said:
Weird because I don't see any kids into Nintendo consoles anymore, it's all about Minecraft, Roblox and Fortnite. Userbase is mostly nostalgic middle aged men 🤭
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Those are mostly teens games, not children aka 10-. They are already a bit too old for "princess in another castle"
 
I mean as dumb as it sounds there is probably some truth to it and a company like PlayStation would probably have some sort of data to back it up.

Jinxed said:
Weird because I don't see any kids into Nintendo consoles anymore, it's all about Minecraft, Roblox and Fortnite. Userbase is mostly nostalgic middle aged men 🤭
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I think a lot of kids still like Nintendo but yeah a lot of that has been replaced with that bullshit. Nostalgic millenials are just the most "vocal". In our defense (I am a millennial that is nostalgic about the 90s/early 2000s but I'm not a Nintendo person) our childhood was pretty damn great.
 
Astray said:
Shu has been quite a troll lately huh?
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Maybe auditioning back to Sony? I think, which I actually hope, that he will be back from retirement and possibly hired again by Sony maybe as a consultant in games development or will be a head of games department. I hope its Japan made exclusives.
 
Yeah. Go to any Nintendo fan forum or channel. Gaming "fans" who never grew out of only buying Nintendo consoles are some of the biggest weirdos you'll find on the internet. I was a Wii defender myself, so sadly I know what I'm talking about.
 
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This is a classic anti-Nintendo narrative from the '90s and 2000s, often used by competitors to cannibalize its market share. It's unfortunate that this outdated argument still resurfaces, despite having been thoroughly debunked long ago and no longer being taken seriously
 
hemo memo said:
Nah, sadly he actually believes this stuff which is worse.
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He should believe it, that's a big part of him helping Playstation become a thing in the 1990s.

What he is not seeing though is the rise of the Nintendo millenial fan, who are basically the gaming world's version of Disney adults.

These guys will cling to their childhoods more than any actual current-day child ever will, and their childhoods belong to Nintendo.
 
He is counting on the stupidity of the audience.

He knows very well that the Switch isn't an "immature" console. He's just playing on the stereotypes...

It worked for many years. He just figured it would work again..
 
Felessan said:
It's survey based with all the problems surveys has like relevance and representation
Moreover iirc to participate in survey you have to be 18+. So for children to be reflected on this chart a) parents should participate in survey, b) they should explicitly state that their children play game
And low-involved parents, as in any surveys, will not participate, skewing results to families where both parents and children plays actively and adults with no children
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Well, fair points for sure. But couldn't the same apply to similar polls for PlayStation and Xbox?

I think it's just worth saying that the audience of non-kids who actively play & support Nintendo systems is a lot bigger than others might want to admit, or that even Shuhei might be aware of. But it's not the same thing as saying their cache among adults is at the same level as PlayStation or Xbox.
 
Terrible narrative, it turns out Nintendo consoles have mature games but Nintendo really does need to change their options if they're worried about their crowd image (the kiddy commercials, miis etc.) there isn't a resident evil or GTA on recent Nintendo consoles.
 
Felessan said:
Those are mostly teens games, not children aka 10-. They are already a bit too old for "princess in another castle"
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Not at all, my son's been playing fortnite for 2 years now, he just turned 11. Before that it was Roblox and Minecraft.
 
EverydayBeast said:
Terrible narrative, it turns out Nintendo consoles have mature games but Nintendo really does need to change their options if they're worried about their crowd image (the kiddy commercials, miis etc.) there isn't a resident evil or GTA on recent Nintendo consoles.
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They're selling 150 million units, I don't think they give a shit
 
This is a hilarious triggering thing that you can use on 'Gamers'. Their ultimate insecurity that gaming is for kids. One of my fav hobbies is to troll gamers on stream as to why they're playing cartoons as an adult.

Anways, it's one of those things that everybody (both who agree or disagree with it) has in the back of their minds, but you don't really say it publically. Love him for saying it though
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
I think it's just worth saying that the audience of non-kids who actively play & support Nintendo systems is a lot bigger than others might want to admit, or that even Shuhei might be aware of. But it's not the same thing as saying their cache among adults is at the same level as PlayStation or Xbox.
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I am pretty sure that Shuhei knows on the matter much more than forum dwellers.
There are means how to properly estimate these things and I am pretty sure that Sony uses them to evaluate their and others playerbase. As it's important to "know your customers" for companies.
Problem with forum dwellers is that they tends to base their assumption on anecdotical evidence of themselves and their environment, that is completely non-representative statistical sampling. You will get wrong results/impression with this approach.

Even looking at rather large froup might be very misleading. For example looking at NeoGaf one might thing that non-casual gamers split is roughly 80:20 in favor of SP games (and many here think this way based on representation and activity of discussion). In reality split is roughly 20:80 in favor of GaaS games. GaaS gamers just don't sit on the forum, they prefer discord etc with closer and faster communication (gaas games heavily into communication between players), as a result they are heavily underrepresented in local population, skewing results.
 
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