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Slim PS3 ...good fake or...
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Kazuma Kiryu
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so, it's pretty much general opinion that the slim will cost 399? i mean...seriously?
sony just keeps hitting those damn doorknobs...
sony just keeps hitting those damn doorknobs...
H_Prestige
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kazuma_pt said:
Ars mole says Sony will cut the price around August/September, which is when the slim should be hitting stores and fats disappearing.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Kagari said:
yeah yeah.
i was saying that, because the psp go is also more expensive, (which i don't think it's a very good move) and i guess i can see sony doing the same thing again =\
hope not really, they need to make it 299.
Audioboxer4
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With Sony continually saying they want to focus on profitability many will assume the Slim will launch at the same price.
However with the cost cutting savings that will go into the Slim (cheaper materials, 45nm, lighter footprint) I think it will come to light that the profitability chat was a ground to ride on to cockblock a fat price cut for 2 years.
This November it will be 2 years since a price drop. Something will be cheaper by the end of the year, whether it be the Slim at a straightforward $299, or the fat dropping in price. Something.
I don't even think it would be far fetched at the idea of the Slim at $299 possibly selling for a small profit, or being very near break even to the point of it turning a profit soon after launch (if it's not). If the leaked pictures are true, they've toned down everything, even the touch sensitive buttons/gloss look.
You don't go to those measures unless you're doing everything you can to make the console cheaper, hence supporting the idea that is necessary to nuke everything "premium" about your console to support a lower retail price.
However with the cost cutting savings that will go into the Slim (cheaper materials, 45nm, lighter footprint) I think it will come to light that the profitability chat was a ground to ride on to cockblock a fat price cut for 2 years.
This November it will be 2 years since a price drop. Something will be cheaper by the end of the year, whether it be the Slim at a straightforward $299, or the fat dropping in price. Something.
I don't even think it would be far fetched at the idea of the Slim at $299 possibly selling for a small profit, or being very near break even to the point of it turning a profit soon after launch (if it's not). If the leaked pictures are true, they've toned down everything, even the touch sensitive buttons/gloss look.
You don't go to those measures unless you're doing everything you can to make the console cheaper, hence supporting the idea that is necessary to nuke everything "premium" about your console to support a lower retail price.
Shadowlink
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This! If it's not, I'll just buy the original PS3 when it's priced lower.Kagari said:
Angeles said:I found this picture in another forum ,Looks fake to me i mean if you already own the console in your office or something why not take a better picture? but i like how it looks so slim compared to my current huge ps3 :lol
Obviously he photoshopped it onto the desk, but I wonder what the original source was for such a relatively clear picture of the PS3 slim. It's clearer than anything I've seen up to this point.
Weird, the computer looks a little messed with, too.
Audioboxer4
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From a site to do with sticks of joy that is banned:
Make of it what you will, but surely if it was a cheap knock off they'd say "no, nothing to do with us"? Would they "no comment" the Polystation? :lol
But yes, I know that line is pretty standard and is often issued.
Make of it what you will, but surely if it was a cheap knock off they'd say "no, nothing to do with us"? Would they "no comment" the Polystation? :lol
But yes, I know that line is pretty standard and is often issued.
Egmont said:
Madden releases August 14th in the US, IIRC.
Sony was rumored to drop the price alongside the release of Madden. So, if that does happen, then you'd expect the official announcement to happen about a week before as that's when retailers put out their ads.
We could be seeing an announcement around early August if this is the case.
gofreak said:
how do you know this?
they could have removed something like DVD playback. Iknow it's just a stupid thought but we don't know for certain what they removed or added until someone buys that slim in that country I cannot spell
they could also add ps2 plaback as a dwnload option for $50 to make up some money
Liabe Brave
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Just some wild speculation here. There was a photo that went around years ago showing Sony's "dedicated Warhawk servers", and it was just racks of retail PS3s. Rather than sell through their stock of fats, they could simply take them all back from distributors and retailers, and then use them as servers for future first-party online games. Then the slim could exist all by itself on shelves, at any price point they want.gofreak said:
Sony would be giving up earning any money back on the sunk cost of manufacturing those unsold fats, but this would be partially offset by not having to buy hundreds of thousands of game servers.
There's some local discussion on this here:
http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=45
I don't know filipino and google translate isn't much help, but from what english is there it seems they're generally sceptical. No one's been able to get a demo (no tv in the store?), and there appears to be no box or wires..some wonder if it's a stray pre-production unit or what. No new pictures or video or anything there. And of course, no one has actually bought it to see what it is at home
But at least some folks are 'on the case'.
http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=45
I don't know filipino and google translate isn't much help, but from what english is there it seems they're generally sceptical. No one's been able to get a demo (no tv in the store?), and there appears to be no box or wires..some wonder if it's a stray pre-production unit or what. No new pictures or video or anything there. And of course, no one has actually bought it to see what it is at home
But at least some folks are 'on the case'.
That 'it's a fake' article is pretty old news at this stage..
Anyway, hopefully we'll know the truth of it soon enough if someone picks up the model in the phillipines. Even if it doesn't work (e.g. if it's a non-working test unit or whatever), opening it up would tell you pretty quickly if it's genuine or not.
Anyway, hopefully we'll know the truth of it soon enough if someone picks up the model in the phillipines. Even if it doesn't work (e.g. if it's a non-working test unit or whatever), opening it up would tell you pretty quickly if it's genuine or not.
CorporalDork
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perhaps they saw the pre-production PSPgo packaging and modeled the PS3 Slim packaging off that?
I doubt it's fake though, my personal opinion is that it's REAL
I doubt it's fake though, my personal opinion is that it's REAL
dogmaan said:
Not to mention the more or less credible moles that have confirmed its existence and nearness to the release.
There are much easier ways to make big bucks if you're already going to be dancing around copyright like that, I think. They wouldn't be able to sell too many consoles before people started realizing it was all fake; that information would travel just as fast as the initial leaks.
I guess it seems plausible enough, though, for someone to want to try to profiteer off the hype like that. I dunno why he would cave in and spill all the beans before selling anything, though. It's not like keeping quiet would have hurt him more. I'm more skeptical about that "explanation" than I ever was about the pics, crappy and sketchy as they may be.
On a different note, it'd be cool if someone who understood Filipino could scan over those kinds of boards looking for people who might have gone and checked it out.
Edit: Ah, they move the conversation into English on the last couple of pages. Looks like someone might buy it?
[http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=90]
Eh, that's just weak. It's been two full days and none of these guys has managed to get their ass over to this mall with a cameraphone.gofreak said:There's some local discussion on this here:
http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=45
I don't know filipino and google translate isn't much help, but from what english is there it seems they're generally sceptical. No one's been able to get a demo (no tv in the store?), and there appears to be no box or wires..some wonder if it's a stray pre-production unit or what. No new pictures or video or anything there. And of course, no one has actually bought it to see what it is at home
But at least some folks are 'on the case'.
Real or fake, I hope someone makes a move on that unit ASAP..before Sony does.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had one of its staff in the Phillipines go track this down. If it's real, it's obvious why they'd want it off the market. And if it's fake, it's fairly obvious too (i.e. they wouldn't want fake sony-branded goods out there).
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had one of its staff in the Phillipines go track this down. If it's real, it's obvious why they'd want it off the market. And if it's fake, it's fairly obvious too (i.e. they wouldn't want fake sony-branded goods out there).
Audioboxer4
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Another fake, this really needs to be cleared up soon :lol
Psychotext
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Isn't that a window behind that rack... and the "slim PS3" is somewhere behind / in the window?
Audioboxer4
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Egmont said:
Fake picture, there's no unit for questioning in that shop at all.
Audioboxer4
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Psychotext said:Isn't that a window behind that rack... and the "slim PS3" is somewhere behind / in the window?
Shop next door is trying to steal customers! Look at our shit that you don't have in there.
edit: Didn't mean to double post.
If the dude in the store is unwilling or unable to demo it (for lack of a TV, as seems to be the case), then the only way they're going to find out for sure, unfortunately, is for someone to buy it.
If it works, there's your answer. If it boots up a NES rom loader, or the PS2 OS that's another answer :lol If it doesn't work at all, then opening it up would be the only next option to figure out if it's genuine..if there's proper looking ps3 guts in there, then congrats, you have a non-functional but very likely 'real' ps3 slim.
Failing that they should try to find out if this store only sells other genuine goods (i.e. if it's filled with chintendo viis, that might be a hint), and if this is the only one unit they have, or if they have more than one.
If it works, there's your answer. If it boots up a NES rom loader, or the PS2 OS that's another answer :lol If it doesn't work at all, then opening it up would be the only next option to figure out if it's genuine..if there's proper looking ps3 guts in there, then congrats, you have a non-functional but very likely 'real' ps3 slim.
Failing that they should try to find out if this store only sells other genuine goods (i.e. if it's filled with chintendo viis, that might be a hint), and if this is the only one unit they have, or if they have more than one.
Audioboxer4
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gofreak said:
In the picture you can see two PSP's below the PS3 Slim and they look real.
If the whole shop is fake it's the most convincing fakes seen to man :lol Usually fakes are named incorrectly, look terrible and don't cost £250.
The issue is you wouldn't expect 1 Slim to be bumped off production, at least a tangible amount maybe say 40, to make the looting worthwhile. We haven't seen any more pop up, and for some reason no one in the Philippines wants to go back to that shop :/
a Master Ninja
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What the hell is going on here? Is someone at Sony attempting to create doubt that the slim is real so PS3 sales don't slow down in anticipation?
So someone who went out to the store from the board has reported back..I'm using google here, so this is rough:
He couldn't get the slim. Because it seemingly was sold to someone else. I think he was all ready to buy it and everything, had got the money together.
He says that apparently it was tested before being sold, with street fighter 4, and it worked. I don't think he saw it being tested himself, but this is what people were talking about (he may have even spoken to the purchaser, not sure). It had the cables, and the ds3, but no box. I think he says it might have been a US unit.
The owner of the store apparently has a second unit, but it's not for sale. They're the only units he has...(or had).
http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=120
RAYANT8 is the poster in question reporting back. If anyone has good filipino, a better translation might be good
Now I guess we can just hope whoever bought it will post about it somewhere..
He couldn't get the slim. Because it seemingly was sold to someone else. I think he was all ready to buy it and everything, had got the money together.
He says that apparently it was tested before being sold, with street fighter 4, and it worked. I don't think he saw it being tested himself, but this is what people were talking about (he may have even spoken to the purchaser, not sure). It had the cables, and the ds3, but no box. I think he says it might have been a US unit.
The owner of the store apparently has a second unit, but it's not for sale. They're the only units he has...(or had).
http://pinoyps.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28868&start=120
RAYANT8 is the poster in question reporting back. If anyone has good filipino, a better translation might be good
Now I guess we can just hope whoever bought it will post about it somewhere..
Bearillusion
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Would be nice if they tested a PS2 game on it.
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